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Shouldn't Chemtrail Central focus on just that?: CHEMTRAILS

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Shouldn't Chemtrail Central focus on just that?: CHEMTRAILS PostWed Aug 30, 2006 6:47 am  Reply with quote  

Hello fellow chemtrail aware people. I cannot help but to write this post, and even as a New Topic. I first found this website back in 2002, when I awoke to their reality. I returned here in 2006 when I got back online with regular access to a computer. So, I signed up, started posting, and was kind of surprised at all of the other forums that are here. man&nature wishes we would devote our collective energy towards CHEMTRAILS; maybe the most devasting, and important to expose, crime the "powers-that-be" have ever thrust upon this planet. All of these other sections and issues sidetrack us away from the most real issue of them all: Chemtrails.

And what the heck does Religion have to do with Chemtrails? I must say, I have found modern, organized religion to be an absolute joke. I would be willing to bet that those responsible for the Chemtrail spraying program have absolutely no regard for Sprituality, or the masses' hundreds of varied religions around the world.

This is a great website, with its format and functionality. And we can all contribute by posting at will, which is an awesome thing. But I sometimes get kind of fed up with all of the other crap here. Like a 9/11 section...or a Conspiracy section. Chemtrails apparently are not categorized in the Conspiracy section. So, why is it even there? Chemtrails are the name the awake people have given them. It's a very appropriate name considering they initially resemble a contrail and are full of chemicals. The name of this site is Chemtrail Central. It should focus on just that. man&nature believes all of the other stuff gets us sidetracked from the Real issue, which is more real at this time than any other corrupt crap the powers-that-be are pulling. Is this the "New World Order" who is responsible? (There is a section for that, too) The globalists, corporatists, elitists, etc. Call them whatever the hell you want to. I call them evil and the enemy of Earth and humankind. Don't think the bastards even deserve a name, to be honest. There are more posts in the other sections now than there are under the Chemtrails section. Or the Weather or Clouds sections.

Let's pool our intelligence, information, and resources together towards one common focus: Chemtrails. Shoot. Confused
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Chemtrail Central PostWed Aug 30, 2006 1:47 pm  Reply with quote  

How do you think that things could be improved?
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PostWed Aug 30, 2006 2:32 pm  Reply with quote  

man&nature,
This site is a well established place where chemtrails have been and are the central theme, however, there are many here among us who believe there is more to the mystery than just that. Share what you have to share, and disregard that which distracts you.
The site has been designed with many forums for expressing ones thoughts. If a belief I hold True, (GOD) is included in my post it is my right to include it. It is not religion as you have expressed, it is reality for me, and therefore cannot be separated from my experience's and thoughts. There exist a spirit section on board where I as a contributing member can if I so choose, exspress my spiritual nature, and belief's, and so long as I don't delibertly cause dissension, (leading to open conflict) amongst members, I am free to express myself. My own personal belief is that God is leading many to awaken to the truth's that surround us, Chemtrail's included. Sorry if that offend's you, or distract you in anyway. Furthermore, I am not a member of any organized religion. My own spiritual awakening was not born in a church. I have choosen to address you in this post, because you have also on another thread raised this issue,

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No offense, but I am finding out that modern, organized religion is an absolute joke. When trying to gain at least a little understanding of what is happening, especially chemtrails, man&nature tries to maintain an objective mind that is free from outside influences such as our media, the "status-quo", and religion.

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/msg101893.html#101893
I hope that you can continue to share all you can find on Chemtrail's here, and keep your objective mind open Wink
starman1... peace, out.........
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PostWed Aug 30, 2006 4:30 pm  Reply with quote  

man&nature,

I can appreciate your concerns, however, I firmly believe that when the truth of the events of 9-11 become public, it will open people's minds enough to be able to comprehend how evil and disgusting TPTB trully are.

It seems to me that the people who refuse to take cts seriously, are the same ones that refuse to believe that 9-11 was an inside job.

Please view the following if you haven't already:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6498070204870579516&q=%22rick+se

After viewing this, nothing would suprise me.
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PostWed Aug 30, 2006 4:37 pm  Reply with quote  

I may not agree with what you have to say but I defend your right to say it.

Basicallyif we only talked about chemtrails in this forum it would get very boring very fast.

Not to mention the fact that chemtrails is part of a larger agenda which includes many of the things posted on different sections of this forum.

all in all it's important to note that democracy is the rule to go by (for better or for worse).

which means that everyone is entitled to voice their opinion without getting censored (as long as the opinion does not go against what we believe in in this forum "just kidding").


but really, we need to understand that not everyone thinks the same or is in the same mood as everyone else at any particular moment.

and so the diversity in this forum accounts for that and makes it possible for people to be creative when they make their voice heard.

it is specifically the job of a totalitarion society which negates the individual to have a judgement different than what is accepted by the ruling class.

All is wellcome in good judgement.
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PostWed Aug 30, 2006 7:35 pm  Reply with quote  

Everything stems from belief or disbelief.

If you are a conspiracy theorists, then you'd know that the government has no power. That all 'elected' officials are not elected by the people but by those with money or rather those who print the money. Thus, if you focus on them, you'd notice a heck of a lot of satanic rituals and occultic symbolisms. Look at a dollar bill!

So if they are that, then they are religious, but it isn't God that they believe in. Which brings the matter of religion in and most especially religious prophecies. I don't see how else one can have fuller picture.

As well as this, you will find that materialistic philosophies have been spread by them to make people disbelieve in what ever their forefathers believed in. Take the theory of evolution for example; it has nothing to do with hard science, their is no scientific basis for saying that man evolved from apes, just because homo erectus skeletons were found in east africa. Modern homo sapiens existed at the same time as these creatures, so how can you say we evolved from them?

Why the hatred for religion anyway? Do you really think George Bush, who professes to be a good christian and is a skull n bones man, his father a masonist and knight of malter, do you really think he gives a toss about the bible? He is a politician, and their sure are a huge swath of foolish people who want to believe him simply because he says he is. Go to prison planet and you'll see a picture of him at a satanic retreat for the rich elite.

But I see your point, religion is a consolotation for some, and it shouldn't be forced down the throats of others. But I still find it interesting when you find Religious prophecies that reflect the time we are in and everything seems to be coming to a conjunction.
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Man and Nature is Correct PostWed Aug 30, 2006 8:44 pm  Reply with quote  

This is my first post here in a long time. The reason why I left CTC is precisely because it becomes pointless to be associated with the preponderance of crazy posts that are put up here. If one is to argue that there is an aerosol program going on, it must be done logically and scientifically. There is an ongoing campaign to marginalize the internet information as being crazy tinfoil material. I believe that many of the posters are fakes. I'm not talking about the dumbass debunkers here either. They are running out of juice as much scientific evidence has come out lately that aircraft emissions are creating fake cloud cover. Now if most of the posts are on about religious end times, ufos, chem busters, and population culling, if posts that advocate violence against aircraft are allowed to stay posted, then anyone with even a bit of interest in this topic will easily think that chemtrails is indeed a nutty hoax. There should be no tolerance for violent posts. The only way we the people are gonna make this world better is to follow the truth, follow the teachings of Thoreau, MLK, Gandhi.... It's all about peace, love, and understanding. Hogwash, even if it appears to be attempting to back up that there is an aerosol program in existence, still ends up hurting the cause, even worse than by any fake reich wing pilots.

The moderating team that was in place here before did not allow such nonsense to persist. Unless CTC cleans up its act, which it appears unwilling to do, this place will become irrelevant if it hasn't already become so.
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PostWed Aug 30, 2006 9:18 pm  Reply with quote  

I agree with the muddiness in subject matter and information on this site, although I think there are a few very informed personalities who post very interesting information here.

I am stymied in my chemtrail research, unable to find the absolute link between chemtrails and any single organization, and I could really do with some help to locate this important information.

I have compiled much technical information and have amassed a substantial amount of scientific data about weather modification, but I am essentially shut out of being able to access any current flight plans or lists of the chemicals being sprayed.

Therefore, if anyone who comes to this site has any idea where I can start looking for this missing info, please help out and post the links. I will strive to post more of the information that I have learned for others.

Yes, we ARE in this together, because this program is far too vast for any one person to locate all of the necessary information!

So, FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe, cough out what 'cha know. We're all ears!

Cool -Tenderflower
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PostWed Aug 30, 2006 9:54 pm  Reply with quote  

FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe you make some good points. raze78,if you want to discuss or debate religion,find a religious blog or ask thermit to add a new religion topic.Tossing or playing the religious card has no place at CTC as far as I'm concerned.Find a Baptist blog,or hebrew,or hindu,or timbucktoo blog.
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PostThu Aug 31, 2006 1:40 am  Reply with quote  

The only way to find real answers to what gets released up there would involve becoming a brilliant chemist, or getting some sort of job in whatever department sprays. There's no way of telling what is legitimate info on the internet. I also doubt anybody here is fake or paid to hide anything. But some who post here are obviously terribly misinformed, or just bored and resort to irrelevant messages. I myself cant come up with much and will stop posting here until I find something new from a credible source.
Good look in finding the answers Cool -Concerned
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There is Truth in Every Post Even if Each Post Isn't True PostThu Aug 31, 2006 2:33 am  Reply with quote  

There is plenty out there that verifies what is going on. The fake posts aren't attacking any of us who are sincere about this. They are trying to influence those folks who show up here on a whim. The fakes want them to think this is nuts, that it isn't plausible, when of course it is and can be shown to be true.

Thanks Increase for the kind words.... I don't know which is worse, athletes thanking God for the victory or the evangelical nuts preaching end times, either way it is nonsense to introduce such nonsense when sincere people are trying to figure out reality.
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PostThu Aug 31, 2006 5:18 pm  Reply with quote  

Life is what you make it. Dr Victor Frankl wrote in his book "Mans search for Meaming", "You cannot always choose the circumstances by which you live your life, you can only choose how you respond to those circumstances.
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PostThu Aug 31, 2006 6:32 pm  Reply with quote  

if people are too worried about what others say about religion, then obviously they'll never find anything worthwhile about chemtrails or anything else for that matter.

Religion is very much a part of chemtrails.

"but" here is the question.

What is your definition of religion.

are we talking about spirituality, mysticism, or organized mass mind control.

organized religion can be defined as mass mind control and that my frineds is obvious.

but if you don't define yourself and what you call religion then you're just confusing yourself and others, which by the way is the "elite's" objective all along.

there are no easy answers!

anyone who is thinking of making things homogenous so it won't be a strain on their neurons is "smoking" some dynamite stuff.

it's not going to happen.

everyone in here knows the objective of chemtrails, everyone knows who is doing it.

But they want eveyone else to agree with them and that's not going to happen in a society that is more interested in "Getting laid" than in getting informed.

End times?

come on give me a break.

We are living on borrowed time.

do you actually think that the food, air, and water you are consuming has any type of healthful benefit?

And we're not taking into account the global conflict which is continuously being implemented by your elected officials.

where there is no challenge to the "thinking" process there is no advancement in the knwoledge thereof.

do you actually think the elite are only manipulating the weather.

Of course not, that is obvious.

they have the people of this world so tightly in their grip it's ridiculous.

when you are attacking religion you are attacking "organized" religion.

and that is logical because organized religion is being manipulated like everything else.

But be careful because spirituality, mysticism and religion are three different things.

and if you don't know that, then you are confused and your argument only describes your confusion.

don't worry about what others will think.

maybe they don't have "a mind of their own".

have you ever "thought" about that.

censorship is bad, it's wrong.

it's the main reason we have chemtrails to begin with.

trolls end up eating their own words because truth can not be contained.

so relax my friends, what you are seeing now is only the beginning.

take courage and don't let your emotional center control your intelligence.

learn to discern.
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PostThu Aug 31, 2006 6:48 pm  Reply with quote  

The patients have officially taken over the asylum. SHALOM Last one out,turn off the lights.
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PostFri Sep 01, 2006 3:37 pm  Reply with quote  

I have never delved into the chemtrail topics except to post a pic of chemtrail once. I find it interesting, but surely that isn't and couldn't be the only issue. If it were, the posts would always be filled to the brim with it. But most times, they are not. And... sure you want to reprimand me and tell me off... go a head. Just don't make me off to be some kinda nutcase, while you are the only sane one. Ps. you accused me of bible thumping and a fire and brimstone speeches, well my friend, I ain't a Christian. But I do admire those that are. Faith and those that possess it, is admirable. I wish to understand it, personally. If that has leaked out into my posts, I appologose. But, again, my mind is open to all things conspiratorial, and if religion is one path to understanding that, I will take it. I'm not a scientist. I do appraciate your analysis at times, but what interests me more on the chemtrail issues are interviews, discoveries etcs... not the numbers and figures that I don't really get.

Its amazing how people are sometimes just pounced upon on this forum, and instead of speaking up, most just agree with it. Now its my turn, for sharing what I thought was just an input. I did appologise for it, but here it goes on. I agree with 90% of what is written on these forums, and what I don't, I just ignore. For all people are different and entitled to different view points. My view, was that chemtrail was just one issue of a much bigger picture of the NWO agenda. I've read plenty on this site to affirm that. Thus I wonder what is wrong with trying to connect the different dots. Their are plenty of sections on different subjects on this site.

Any ways, Peace. And oh... Increase, I've sent you a personal message of appology.

Good bye and good luck to all of you.
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