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PostSat Aug 04, 2007 7:15 am  Reply with quote  

Every generation changes the society we live in. What dictates our society, the needs of the people? Or is man ever changing thus society norms adjust? Are all systems corrupt? No. Are some systems corrupt? Sure, and many may have began with the intent to rob and control. For example, is a system of banking bad? No, of course not. Is the Federal Reserve a corrupt system? Yes, and it was create for that purpose; however, the handling of money and banking itself is not corrupt. It’s all relevant and you’re comparing apples to oranges. You paint the world with such doom and gloom and that the end is near with no hope, making certain the readers feel hopelessness and that God and religion is a mockery. I’ve been reading your rants and notice how you disclaim God in most of your posts. The world we line in is always progressing. People without God project a Godless dark end to our world. Those who have accepted the Lord know darkness and evil cannot control. We smile at adversity. Evil cannot win! Pisses ya off doesn’t it?
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PostSat Aug 04, 2007 2:56 pm  Reply with quote  

Great thread. Why are using it to take a sideswipe at Pak Swedishoo?

The post Pak made before her last you dismissed as mere “opinion”. Well, while I can see one or two areas where physical evidence might be in short supply, but I see little that I outright disagree with. Of course, it might be that I'm just an ignorant and Godless heathen too, but my research suggests that it would be quite easy to provide you with clear evidence of almost each and every sentence Pak wrote should you require it. So firstly, exactly which bits of Pak's penultimate post do you have an issue with?

Next let's look at your last post:

“Every generation changes the society we live in.”

Ok, start on common ground. No-one disagrees.

“What dictates our society, the needs of the people? Or is man ever changing thus society norms adjust? Are all systems corrupt? No. Are some systems corrupt? Sure, and many may have began with the intent to rob and control. For example, is a system of banking bad? No, of course not. Is the Federal Reserve a corrupt system? Yes, and it was create for that purpose; however, the handling of money and banking itself is not corrupt.”

What are you saying here? It's all a bit rhetorical but are you sure Pak disagrees with any of this? I'm not.

“It’s all relevant and you’re comparing apples to oranges.”

I guess you meant relative, rather than relevant, but either way, what exactly are you talking about? In the most recent post Pak outlined just a few ways in which our systems (political, economic and religious etc) have been manipulated and corrupted. Is she wrong? If so, how?

“You [PAK] paint the world with such doom and gloom and that the end is near with no hope”

This is not true. I for one have found Pak's posts quite inspirational at times and some of the finest threads on this site have been graced by her input.

“I’ve been reading your rants...”

Shame on you Swedishoo. If you don't see any value in Pak's posts then feel free to ignore them, but using throwing derogative words like this around is a bit unkind. Don't you think?

“...notice how you disclaim God in most of your posts.”

I notice how you acclaim God in most of yours. So? Deny us third parties the space to make up our minds for ourselves at your peril.

“The world we line in is always progressing. People without God project a Godless dark end to our world.”

I've never once heard Pak talk about the end of the world. Have you? My guess is, Pak does not expect the world to end any time soon. By the same token our current way of life will change beyond all recognition with 20 years. I can't prove that, but you know it too.

“Those who have accepted the Lord know darkness and evil cannot control. We smile at adversity. Evil cannot win!”

Accept the Lord and smile. Awrighty!

“Pisses ya off”

Is that Hebrew?

Peace and love folks...
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PostSat Aug 04, 2007 4:50 pm  Reply with quote  

PAK's Lapdog: "Of course, it might be that I'm just an ignorant and Godless heathen too"


You're probably right.
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PostSat Aug 04, 2007 4:54 pm  Reply with quote  

Any evidence Swedishoo? Or just name calling.

Suit yourself. I'm probably older and a whole lot more educated than you. I've no need to resort to bitterness and anger.

Take care

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PostSun Aug 05, 2007 3:05 pm  Reply with quote  

Let me make one thing clear. I was brought up a Christian and always questioned the dogma we were fed as some of it, to me, did not make sense. The Old Testament and New Testament are like double think to me. I never could believe that my Creator would somehow "change his mind" about things. A truth should be a truth. That does not mean I am anti-God, although I prefer to use the word Creator. I believe in a Creator, but like Jesus stated "I am in you as the father is in me". That means we ALL are a child of Creation, we all have the power of the Creator within each and every one of us. The one time Jesus went ballistic was when he overturned all the money changers/taxes/etc. in the temple. Christians today would not recognize Jesus as they are all in the system, they would NEVER listen to a guy with NOTHING. They like power just like every other human being. Religion is a tool to separate us, to cause hatred and justify fighting over dogma while the real evil people, manipulating all religions behind the scenes, get the outcome they envisioned and planned.


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Every generation changes the society we live in. What dictates our society, the needs of the people? Or is man ever changing thus society norms adjust?


The sad reality is that culture and society is changed not by the people themselves, but by very clever powerful families who have consolidated their power on this Earth. They give us culture, they give us the new way to live because it profits them to do so. That is why the word is CULTURE, such as you grow a culture in a petry dish. These powerful families have large thinktanks (like TAVISTOCK-we are the stock you see), that plan in 100 year or more time periods to change society. We are very adaptable, but in reality, we would not change so quickly unless given the path to follow. It is not natural as all socities today are being changed in a very similar fashion - to fashion something is to shape it - that is why your fashion is given to you, promoted by very wealthy groups, for you to follow.

Here is an excerpt from "Tragedy and Hope, A History of the World in Our Time", by Carroll Quigley as follows:

In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations.

These men, as the ancient rulers of the past like the Pharoahs, are TRAINED to rule, believe they have the RIGHT to rule, and unfortunately, since we use THEIR system we are in a conundrum. MOST PEOPLE OF EVERY RACE do not like to go to war, do not like to kill other human beings, do not like to take advantage or abuse their children. The rulers of this world KNOW this and have been using every pscyhological means possible, along with their great wealth, to change the very nature of humans, dividing us by race, color, religion, age and sex. DIVIDE AND CONQUER. It's terribly old but now these ruling E-LITES have the technology given to them by US, our labor, our knowledge, our consent, to totally dominate this planet. There is not doubt that right now these ruling families are also having some in-fighting, like the big mafia it is, but, the handwriting is in the sky, above our heads, and most are "in the dark".

The world these evil people have envisioned isn't just anti-Christian, or anti-Muslim, or anti-Jewish, it is ANTI-HUMAN.
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PostWed Aug 08, 2007 7:23 am  Reply with quote  

PAK: “That does not mean I am anti-God, although I prefer to use the word Creator. I believe in a Creator, but like Jesus stated "I am in you as the father is in me". That means we ALL are a child of Creation, we all have the power of the Creator.”


Believing that the Lord lives in our hearts and in our lives is NOT saying that “we all have the power of the Creator within each and every one of us”. Matter of fact, this is not the first time you have made reference to us being as God. However, THIS is the ORIGINAL SIN, the lie that ye shall be as God. The serpent lied to Adam and Eve in the garden and told them with the bite of the forbidden fruit ye shall be as God. That was their FALL.

It is blasphemous and sinful to believe you are equal to God and bestow His powers. To proclaim and convince others of this lie will cause great judgment upon you.
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PostThu Aug 09, 2007 2:26 pm  Reply with quote  

I never said that I or any other human can be a God, but that we have the spark of the Creator in each and every one of us. We have a direct connection to the Creator and our path is our own since we are each different and unique. Once man puts rules and regulations on spirituality, it reduces ones obligation to seek out the Truth.

There are those that believe they are Gods of this Earth and as Gods or Kings have the right to rule. Cain was a BUILDER and RULER; original rulers (measuring sticks) were made of cane. From this word we get CON (Priest), COHEN, KHAN, KING, CZAR, KAZAR, all rulers of men.

In the Old Testament, the story of Jacob is very fitting for the SYSTEM we live in today. This is not a NATURAL system, but a man-made system of FAVORITISM, CUNNING, and DECEPTION which is BLESSED by the God of Le-Bib and given the right to rule.

From Bible Gateway:

26 After this, his brother came out, with his hand grasping Esau's heel; so he was named Jacob. [a] Isaac was sixty years old when Rebekah gave birth to them.

Footnotes:

Genesis 25:26 Jacob means he grasps the heel (figuratively, he deceives).


So this is the old astrological story, REwritten by clever Priests or cons, where the brother who is the most cunning, with the help of a woman (evil eve again), tricks his blind old father by deceiving him, making his father think he is Esau. He cheats his own brother out of his birthright and for this cunning he is rewarded by GOD to inherit the Kingdom of Isis-Ra-El. Sounds like the Mafia to me which is only the BELOW branch of freemasonry, As Above So Below, the clever Priests control the legal and illegal system. This is THEIR story of the right to rule since the God of the Old Testament is as fickle as a King, sanctioning the slaughter of unchosen humans and rewarding men who are allowed to break every rule given to the people to follow.

In the New Testament, God the Creator has changed. He’s no longer fickle, jealous, blessing the polygamous adulterous Kings, and wrathfully punishing his people who have so many rules for every aspect of their lives they can’t possibly obey them all, let alone remember them all; instead he’s all loving, gives his people new rules to live by and only allows his son to walk the Earth for a brief period, his ministry starting at the age of 30 (where the sun rises) and ends at the age of 33 (the sun sets) – also important degrees in freemasonry. He reveals some of the Truth – exposing the religious system as corrupt, working hand-in-glove with a corrupt govt. and MONEY being at the core of the evil. For exposing the system and the people who benefit from the system for what it truly is, Jesus is killed.

Christians claim that Jesus came to Earth to give them the “GOOD NEWS”. But, in fact, he came to give them a Truth, the Bad News – The rulers of this world rule in darkness (secret/occult), they were murderers and thieves from the beginning, and this world is run on corruption from the top down, it was then and still is today. As long as religion upholds the money system we live in, then it can never be from the Creator, nor will humans ever live as the Creator intended. Our world has been altered by the HE-BREWS, who brewed up a religion, wrapped it up in a chosen race ordained by the God of this world to RULE, and made sure that a book was written to “authorize” their system, creating people who work as economic cells for a system they have no say in.

The Original Sin was pedophilia, as the males who PREY-ED on children, primarily little boys, were kicked out of the clan societies, which were originally matrial vs. patriarchal or matriarchal. These men created their own secret cult, mimicking women by wearing dresses/robes, hijacking spirituality and replacing it with dogma in order to destroy the NATURAL order of humans, that which was instilled into us by our Creator. They have now “come out of the closet/cloister/cell/ and are in your face with their pornography, homosexuality, bisexuality and pedophilia. They want women REPLACED as we are competition for them and they do not like competition, nor do they want to deal with the problem of having a slave class with two sexes.

Through genetic engineering, which they have been secretly doing for eons, as these Priests had their hijackers and toll-gaters, kidnapping women to use for procreation and experimentation purposes. Now they have wreaked havoc on our endocrine systems, so that more and more women, especially the Cauc-asian, cannot conceive naturally. VOILA, we have “artificial insemination”, babies created in test tubes (Tubal-Cain) and this is not for the benefit of women, but for the benefit of the NEW HUMAN RACE TO COME. ANDROGYNY is the new GODHOOD because in order to be a GOD you must be able to self procreate (male/female/offspring in one). Mark my words, a man will be artificially inseminated once HE/SHE is fitted with a WOMB (the true meaning of the BAPHOMET). Humans will also be merged with machines . All this will be debated in the media (Arts & Entertainment-or Adam & Eve) who have already decided the outcome for us. The people will accept it like abortion, and it will be the new NORMAL. Just as our children are being taught in school today that it is NORMAL to have two moms or two dads, that homosexuality is the same as heterosexuality. As they continue the assault on our hormones, more and more females will NOT be able to conceive naturally. www=WORLD WITHOUT WOMEN, and we use their CTL-ALT-DELETE everyday to will their will.

Why do you think the Priesthoods called their helpers ALTER-Boys, that is what they like to do with an ASS-AULT at the right age, changing the natural tendency of a man to cleave with a woman. It’s a science of the mind and it works very well.

Christians just do not realize that they are willing the will of the Elite by continuing to work within the SYSTEM of money – The bankers own the system, the science, the medical community, education, government, judicial and religion and they aren’t Christian, it is corrupt and meant to enslave. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all come from the same ROOT, the ancient solar lunar and stellar worship.

The Kings James version of the Bible is called the “authorized” version of the Bible. It is dedicated to a man, who was a King by birth only, who was a pedophile (he was known as Shamey Jamey-he chased the page boys around the Castle), he taxed the hell out of his people, and the dedication in the front of this Bible is to his GODhood on Earth.

A good book to read, it is not a religious book, but is written by a former senator of the United States, John DeCamp. It is called THE FRANKLIN COVERUP and it will give you an insight into the evil that has enveloped this country which most Christians turn a blind eye too. It is why we have a CRIMINAL JUST-US SYSTEM, it’s a system for the criminals who run it all.

P.S. Take a good hard look at Barbra Starr and Candy Crowley of CNN. It's why the Mona Lisa has a crooked little smile - she's a he.
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Hate to disagree, and apologies if I'm wrong, but as far as I'm aware, the words Czar and Kazar, and all variants (e.g Kaiser) are derived from Caesar, which itself comes from the Latin word "caedere" ("to cut", due to his caesarean birth)...Cane comes from a Semitic word for "reed". I'm not sure about Cain, but according to Wikipedia:
"Cain (qayin / qyn), on the other hand, is thought to be cognate to the mid-1st millennium BC South Arabian word qyn, meaning "metal smith"[1]. This theory would make their names merely descriptions of the roles they take in the story - Abel as a pastoral farmer, and Cain as an agriculturist."
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PostFri Aug 10, 2007 1:03 am  Reply with quote  


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Evil cannot win! Pisses ya off doesn’t it?


Sorry to say but evil has been winning for thousands of years. That is because we all want a HERO, someone to WORSHIP, given to us by corrupt leaders who know they are lying to you. We are not dealing with stupid idiots, but rather, generations of inbred families who teach their children power and control, just like the ancient Pharoahs who understood how to control masses of people.

It is why the CATHOLICS go to MASS, it is for the MASSES, as the Priests have their own inner religion. The Catholics had a Pope once who tried to expose this, but he was killed on his 33rd day in office. This is outlined nicely in the 3rd Godfather movie.

Martin Luther, who founded the PROTEST-ANTS religion, was a Priest, and a Rosecrucian, and if you read his own papers you will find that he had very little regard for the common folk. He was "allowed" to rebel (since most were burned at the stake for hearsay), in order to bring about a new religion to satisfy those who realized that the Priests were nothing but lazy drunks, totally living off the people's labor, parasites in the true fashion as the Elite are today.

Religion, has ALWAYS been used for control purposes. You may be praying to a GOD but you better check out who you are truly praying too, or rather are the E-light PREYING on your ignorance.

Sad-U-See it's all a game of illusion, to trap you, to make you BEE-leave in a system that is not from the CREATOR.

This isn't any NEW AGE hype, it is a check on reality. All religions were hijacked long ago, by inter-generational Priesthoods, specialized and devoted to dominating humanity, recreating that which the CREATOR left, in their own image. They like order, uniformity, standardization. ORDER OUT OF CHAOS. They create the chaos and then give you the solution to it. So we all look to our abusers for help in solving the problem. OLD TRICK. but then again it is ELEC-TRIC or the trick of the elect.
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PostFri Aug 10, 2007 4:55 am  Reply with quote  


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Religion, has ALWAYS been used for control purposes. You may be praying to a GOD but you better check out who you are truly praying too, or rather are the E-light PREYING on your ignorance.



The elite did not deliver what I have recieved from God.
And much of what I recieved was affirmed by the scriptures, however, studying them and living in this socieity creates hypocracies that are difficult to ignore. I do not belong to a religion per say, but do consider myself a member of the Body of Christ, or the Christ Body... 5

pak,,, I walked 44 years as pretty much an atheist for most of that time, needless to say I am not now... 14
Why is that? Something definitely happened, and it was not a trick or treat of the elite, God's Spirit is alive and well wether you want to accept that or not changes nothing... 1

I 4 1 will continue to PRAY to God, 7 despite those e-light/elite/dogs you deSCRIBE... 6
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PostFri Aug 10, 2007 1:14 pm  Reply with quote  

I am not trying to put down spirituality, or a belief in a Creator or God. I believe there is a Creator, and that he put that need in us to search for him naturally. Unfortunately, clever priests have hijacked it and used it against the people, for control purposes in all the religions, not just Christianity.

It is very difficult today for people to find their way to the Creator because we are so bombarded with media, entertainment and the difficulties of making it in the system we're born into.

My only point is that all the Organized Religions have been authorized. That is not to say that some individual pastors or priests or immans aren't decent people, but the organization of religion is corrupt.

I've been to just about all the different denominations of Protestant churches, and Catholic, including the free churches, evangelical churches and the new mega churches. None are warning the people about what is truly going on in this world. A few are into the "End Times" but they are waiting for it, hoping it will come because they are going to be saved, and then will rule the Earth with Jesus when he comes back to save them. Human beings, all through the ages have prayed to their God to save them from cruel governments, all in vain.

Not a single church is opting OUT of the SYSTEM which is corrupt and encouraging and helping the people to do just that. Figure out a new way to live because these Elite mean business, they are not fooling around, they have written books and had meetings discussing how they are planning to eliminate the populations, create new types of humans (which they have already done) that will be better servants to them. We are ITS, CATTLE, SHEEP to them and many of the religious leaders are in cahoots with these Elite. They rose to the top as STARS of Christianity because they serve the Elite, were chosen specifically for the task, like Rick Warren who was funded by Peter Drucker, and Billie Graham, who was funded by the Pew Foundation, and Pat Robertson who was funded and helped by Ted Turner.

Why aren't these people, who have the media in their hands, warning their constituants about the aerosol attack on us? They know about it. Can you imagine if they were willing to come out publically and speak the truth, and not just the Christian stars, but the rabbis and immans? They have the power to make a difference and they are not. That is because they work hand-in-glove (a masonic saying) with the government to keep the sheeple in check, don't let them know the TRUTH because it is too frightening. How about the POPE - can you imagine if he came out and warned the people that they are being sprayed like bugs, around the world, and our weather is being manipulated by psychopaths with NO EMPATHY for human beings. He's nothing but a puppet of government, all looking out for themselves while they fill the masses with worthless BS that hasn't made any difference in thousands of years, and bleed them dry.
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PostFri Aug 10, 2007 2:44 pm  Reply with quote  

I love it, look what you just did...

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OUT SYSTEM ITS, CATTLE, SHEEP STARS TRUTH POPE - NO EMPATHY BS

must be spirit speak Wink
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The Walrus and The Carpenter
Lewis Carroll
(from Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There, 1872)

The sun was shining on the sea,
Shining with all his might:
He did his very best to make
The billows smooth and bright--
And this was odd, because it was
The middle of the night.


The moon was shining sulkily,
Because she thought the sun
Had got no business to be there
After the day was done--
"It's very rude of him," she said,
"To come and spoil the fun!"


The sea was wet as wet could be,
The sands were dry as dry.
You could not see a cloud, because
No cloud was in the sky:
No birds were flying overhead--
There were no birds to fly.




The Walrus and the Carpenter
Were walking close at hand;
They wept like anything to see
Such quantities of sand:
"If this were only cleared away,"
They said, "it would be grand!"


"If seven maids with seven mops
Swept it for half a year.
Do you suppose," the Walrus said,
"That they could get it clear?"
"I doubt it," said the Carpenter,
And shed a bitter tear.


"O Oysters, come and walk with us!"
The Walrus did beseech.
"A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
Along the briny beach:
We cannot do with more than four,
To give a hand to each."


The eldest Oyster looked at him,
But never a word he said:
The eldest Oyster winked his eye,
And shook his heavy head--
Meaning to say he did not choose
To leave the oyster-bed.


But four young Oysters hurried up,
All eager for the treat:
Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,
Their shoes were clean and neat--
And this was odd, because, you know,
They hadn't any feet.


Four other Oysters followed them,
And yet another four;
And thick and fast they came at last,
And more, and more, and more--
All hopping through the frothy waves,
And scrambling to the shore.




The Walrus and the Carpenter
Walked on a mile or so,
And then they rested on a rock
Conveniently low:
And all the little Oysters stood
And waited in a row.


"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings."


"But wait a bit," the Oysters cried,
"Before we have our chat;
For some of us are out of breath,
And all of us are fat!"
"No hurry!" said the Carpenter.
They thanked him much for that.


"A loaf of bread," the Walrus said,
"Is what we chiefly need:
Pepper and vinegar besides
Are very good indeed--
Now if you're ready, Oysters dear,
We can begin to feed."


"But not on us!" the Oysters cried,
Turning a little blue.
"After such kindness, that would be
A dismal thing to do!"
"The night is fine," the Walrus said.
"Do you admire the view?


"It was so kind of you to come!
And you are very nice!"
The Carpenter said nothing but
"Cut us another slice:
I wish you were not quite so deaf--
I've had to ask you twice!"



"It seems a shame," the Walrus said,
"To play them such a trick,
After we've brought them out so far,
And made them trot so quick!"
The Carpenter said nothing but
"The butter's spread too thick!"


"I weep for you," the Walrus said:
"I deeply sympathize."
With sobs and tears he sorted out
Those of the largest size,
Holding his pocket-handkerchief
Before his streaming eyes.


"O Oysters," said the Carpenter,
"You've had a pleasant run!
Shall we be trotting home again?'
But answer came there none--
And this was scarcely odd, because
They'd eaten every one.

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PostMon Aug 13, 2007 7:30 am  Reply with quote  

Starman1: “The elite did not deliver what I have recieved from God.
And much of what I recieved was affirmed by the scriptures, however, studying them and living in this socieity creates hypocracies that are difficult to ignore. I do not belong to a religion per say, but do consider myself a member of the Body of Christ, or the Christ Body... 5

pak,,, I walked 44 years as pretty much an atheist for most of that time, needless to say I am not now... 14
Why is that? Something definitely happened, and it was not a trick or treat of the elite, God's Spirit is alive and well wether you want to accept that or not changes nothing... 1

I 4 1 will continue to PRAY to God, 7 despite those e-light/elite/dogs you deSCRIBE... 6”



Hallelujah! God’s Spirit IS alive -- in us!

goo goo g'joob

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PostMon Aug 13, 2007 1:28 pm  Reply with quote  

I never said a God or Creator does not exist, I just have come to the conclusion that the "authorized organized religions" whether Christianity, Judaism, Islam or Hindu, whatever, are not from the Creator but from man. These religions were created for control purposes, divide and conquer, and war.

Here is an excerpt from "The Impact of Science on Society" written by Lord Bertrand Russell, who worked for the Bristish monarchy. A series of papers he wrote were published in this book in 1953. He outlines how wars are created to change society quickly, to reduce populations and allow the Elite, through money and science, to control the destiny of mankind. He also hints at the fact that certain scientific "discoveries" were not those of the people given credit for these discoveries - in other words, he had access to archives of knowledge the public do not get:

"In the pre-scientific world, power was God's. There was not much that man could do even in the most favorable circumstances, and the circumstances were liable to become unfavorable if men incurred the divine displeasure. This showed itself in earthquakes, pestilences, famines, and defeats in war. Since such events are frequent, it was obviously very easy to incur divine displeasure. Judging by the analogy of earthy monarchs, men decided that the thing most displeasing to the Deity is a lack of humility. If you wished to slip through life without disaster, you must be med; you must be aware of your defenselessness, and constantly ready to confess it. But the God before whom you humbled yourself was conceived in the likeness of man, so that the universe seemed human and warm and cozy, like home if you are the youngest of a large family, painful at times, but never alien and incomprehensible.

In the scientific world, all this is different. It is not by prayer and humility that you cause things to go as you wish, but by acquiring a knowledge of natural laws. The power you acquire in this way is much greater and much more reliable than that formerly supposed to be acquired by prayer, because you never could tell whether your prayer would be favorably heard in heaven. The power of prayer, moreover, had recognized limits; it would have been impious to ask too much. But the power of science has no known limits. We were told that faith could remove mountains, but no one believed it; we are now told that the atomic bomb can remove mountains; and everyone believes it........

Some of our activities will do good, some harm, but all alike will show our power. And so, in this godless universe we shall become gods."

Now Lord Bertrand was allowed, and funded, by the British govt. to create experimental schools to see how to manipulate and change a child's natural progression. This he did by experimenting with encouraging sexual activity among the children at pre-puberty. He found that children exposed to sex at a young age will not be able to cleave to a mate when they are older, it also encouraged homosexuality. He did all kinds of tests, like indoctrination of lie, but showing that repetition and propoganda could make a person believe a lie, even when they could see visually it is a lie.

One of the things they discovered was that by controlling what was taught in a school, get a child early enough, and he/she would not listen to his/her parents. This way, they did not have to take all children away from their parents, but they knew they could override anything the parents tried to teach their children and indoctrinate the children with new social norms.

This is a very interesting book, as it explains how the Elite have manipulated science, through money, to work toward a global government. He also shows how organized religion works hand in glove with government to help keep the people in check, obeying their masters, paying their taxes.

Lord Bertrand Russell, holder of the British Order of Merit, Fellow of the Royal Society, Fellow of Trinity College, Cambridge, winner of the 1950 Nobel Prize for Literature-scientist-mathematician, essayist, philosopher.

Oh, by the way, I caught a quick announcement on CBS while I was cooking. My husband watches the news, anyway, I heard that they are doing a special and a survey on what percentage of men would want to have a child. It won't be long until they bring out the first male to be able to carry a child and give birth, thus ending the NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS. What's a woman to do.
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... we are in process of developing a whole series of techniques which will enable the controlling oligarchy who have always existed and presumably will always exist to get people to love their servitude. Aldous Huxley
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