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Since Gulf War I - 73,846 U.S. Dead, 1,620,006 Disabled

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Since Gulf War I - 73,846 U.S. Dead, 1,620,006 Disabled PostThu Dec 13, 2007 7:57 am  Reply with quote  

http://www.rense.com/general79/since.htm

Since Gulf War 1 - 73,846 US
Dead, 1,620,906 Disabled
12-11-7

Data from -
http://www1.va.gov/rac-gwvi/docs/GWVIS_May2007.pdf

73,846 US TROOPS DEAD (near top of page 6)

1,620,906 PERMANENTLY DISABLED (near top of page 7)

US DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS ISSUES OFFICIAL REPORT CONFIRMING 73,000 U.S. TROOPS KILLED IN IRAQ SAME GOVERNMENT AGENCY REPORT CONFIRMS 1.6 MILLION "DISABLED" BY THE WAR

From Peter Marshall E. Boomhower
eboomhower@juno.com

George Walker Bush has presided over the worst defeat of the United States Military since Vietnam and has deliberately skewed reporting of the deaths and injuries to conceal the facts.

Department of Veteran's Affairs, in conjunction with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has released the truth because they need the American People to know our military is literally, destroyed.

They cannot release these horrific numbers via the chain of command because they are under orders to conceal the truth at all costs, so they let slip a report which now cannot be "un-slipped."

Here are the facts and a link to the government source to prove these facts:

More Gulf War Veterans Have Died Than Vietnam Veterans.

The Department of Veterans Affairs, May 2007, Gulf War Veterans
Information System reports the following:

Total U.S. Military Gulf War 1 and Gulf War 3 Deaths: 73,846
* Deaths amongst Deployed: 17,847

* Deaths amongst Non-Deployed: 55,999

Total "Undiagnosed Illness" (UDX) claims: 14,874

Total number of disability claims filed: 1,620,906
* Disability Claims amongst Deployed: 407,911
* Disability Claims amongst Non-Deployed: 1,212,995

Percentage of combat troops who filed Disability Claims 36%

Soldiers, by nature, typically don't complain. They don't want to be perceived (by idiots) as being weak, or complainers, or looking to get out of work/danger. In other words, the real impact of those who are disabled from the US invasions in Iraq, Afghanistan and other Nations, is not fully reflected in the official Veterans Affairs numbers.

Why are the government numbers of 3,777 as of 9-7-7 are so low? The answer is simple, the government does not want the 73,846 dead U.S. soldiers killed in the Gulf to date to be compared to the 55,000 U.S. soldiers killed in Vietnam, lest we all conclude Iraq = Vietnam.


What the government is doing is only counting the soldiers that die in action before they can get them into a helicopter or ambulance. Any soldier who is shot but they get into a helicopter before he dies is not counted.

73,846 dead U.S. soldiers for this scale operation using weapons of mass destruction is not high - we expect the great majority of U.S. soldiers who took part in the invasion of Iraq to die of uranium poisoning, which can take decades to kill.

More than 1,820 tons (3-million, 640 thousand pounds) of radio-active nuclear waste uranium were exploded into Iraq alone in the form of armor piercing rounds and bunker busters, representing the worlds worst man made ecological disaster ever. 64 kg of uranium were used in the Hiroshima bomb. The U.S. Iraq Nuclear Holocaust represents far more than fourteen thousand Hiroshima atomic bombs.


That's 14,000.

The nuclear waste the U.S. has exploded into the Middle East will continue killing for BILLIONS of years and can wipe out more than a third of life on earth. Gulf War Veterans who have ingested the uranium will continue to die off over a number of years.

From a victors perspective, above any major war in history, The Gulf War has taken the severest toll on soldiers.

So far, more than one million people have been slaughtered in the illegal invasion of Iraqi by the U.S.. This is genocide of the highest order.

Iraqi birth defects are up 600% - the same will apply to U.S. Veterans.

Statistics and evidence published by the government and mainstream media in no way reflect the extreme gravity of the situation.

Those working for the government and media must wake up and take responsibility for immediately reversing this U.S. Holocaust. Understanding who is manipulating all of us is critical for all of us.

For those of you who doubt the veracity of this story, who naively believe it can't be true because if it were true, you would have heard it from the government or from the main stream media, can see the proof yourselves directly from the United States Department of Veteran's Affairs web site -Source:

http://www1.va.gov/rac-gwvi/docs/GWVIS_May2007.pdf

This story is 100% accurate. 100% true. 100% verifiable.

From the bottom of page 9:

1. The total number of service members ever identified by DoD with possible low-level chemical warfare agent exposure serving in units in the hazard areas at or near Khamisiyah, Iraq is 145,472 as of June 30, 2006.

In this report, VBA displayed compensation and pension statistics on 145,456 service members. VA and DoD have completed their fourth quarter 2006 review of service member records. However, there is a possibility of future changes, if needed, based on further review by DoD.


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HOW MANY CARE??? "OH BUT WE MUST SUPPORT OUR TROOPS AND SHOW OUR PATRIOTISM" ::::...BY LETTING THEM DIE...:::: They will help reuild Iraq with tax dollars, in the billions.....USA will have another state and corporate profits....$$$$$$ Twisted Evil The elite corp plan goes accordingly...people all over the world see America's new image and think the US live in fear and are fools and also some hate USA for their actions...of corporations...of course some also know that America ha skilled hundreds of millions in its wars according to some estimates. Excluding some government coups.

MANY MORE IRAQI'S KILLED AND DISABLED, MISSING LEGS AND ARMS THAN ANY INVADING FORCES!!! ALSO WITH DISEASES AND PERMANENT POLLUTION OF THEIR LAND FOR HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF YEARS TO COME, NOT TO MENTION THE POLLUTED GENE POOL...

All this war will do is create revenge from victims families and make people want to kill and bomb US corps and organisations. Not jus tin Iraq but globally for decades to come at the best. Wonder if the elite had this in mind?? More real terror and more war...= more $$$ = less stability = more control = martial law = world government...
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Clarification PostFri Dec 14, 2007 1:04 am  Reply with quote  

My original post needed clarification so I corrected it. The 73,846 U.S. Troops represented both Gulf War I and Gulf War II through March 2007.
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PostSat Dec 15, 2007 11:02 pm  Reply with quote  

I respectfully disagree

Neither of us need be either right nor wrong. We merely are interpreting a vague report differently.

I've read that report more than a dozen times trying to agree that it simply represents "all service members 1990 to present".
However,
It specifically lists "other conflicts" 08/02/90 - 07/31/91
It seems a real stretch not to include Operations Enduring Freedom, and Iraqi Freedom as conflicts,
nor as even "deployed" but perhaps (and this is a real stretch) as ""Theatre" other deployments".

It takes a huge leap of logic to assume they would not even acknowledge Operations Enduring Freedom, and Iraqi Freedom as conflicts.


quote:
page 16: Conflict
Conflict is a subset of Deployed. Conflict identifies active duty service members deployed to Southwest
Asia during the Gulf War, from August 2, 1990, through July 31, 1991. This includes Active Duty as
well as Activated Reserve Forces.
Limitations: The initial Gulf War air campaign began on January 17, 1991, and it lasted through
February 28, 1991. The Gulf War ground invasion into Iraq and Kuwait began February 24, 1991, and it
stopped on February 28, 1991. VA defines the Southwest Asia theater as Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia,
the neutral zone between Iraq and Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Oman, the
Gulf of Aden, the Gulf of Oman, the Persian Gulf, the Arabian Sea, the Red Sea, and the airspace above
these locations.

Makes the argument impossible to support.

I really want to agree, but IMHO the report is clearly about Gulf War era Veterans.

As it clearly states from page one onward.
Even the title:


quote:
Gulf War Veterans Information System
VBA uses four steps to prepare the quarterly GWVIS reports:
1. Every three months, the DoD sends VBA an updated list identifying all current and prior military
service members since the start of the Gulf War on August 2, 1990.
2. VBA compares DoD’s updated list of service members with VBA information systems.
3. VBA uses the results from the comparison to prepare reports about Gulf War veterans and their
compensation and pension benefit use sorted by specific cohorts based on Gulf War deployment
status.

reports about Gulf War veterans
Gulf War 08/02/90 - 07/31/91

from Introduction page 1

quote:
Overview
The Gulf War Veterans Information System (GWVIS) provides the best available current data
identifying the 6.5 million Gulf War service member population. The GWVIS reports monitor, in part,
the service members’ use of Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) healthcare and disability benefits.


reports about Gulf War veterans
Gulf War 08/02/90 - 07/31/91

page 4

quote:
The GWVIS report differs from existing VBA Reports Control Symbol (RCS) and Computer Output
Identification Number (COIN) reports. The GWVIS report identifies all veterans with military
service on or after August 2, 1990. In contrast, the COIN and RCS reports sort veterans into only
one period of military service, such as Vietnam Era, Peacetime, or Gulf War. COIN and RCS
reports contain lower counts of Gulf War veterans because some veterans of the Gulf War period
who served prior to August 1990 have multiple periods of military service. These veterans may be
counted in the COIN and RCS reports under another period of military service.

It is NOT a COIN or RCS report. It IS a GWVIS report!
GWIS = Gulf War Veterans Information System
RCS = Readjustment Counseling Service
COIN = Computer Output Identification Number


reports about Gulf War veterans
Gulf War 08/02/90 - 07/31/91


quote:
GWVIS Report Introduction

Overview

The Gulf War Veterans Information System (GWVIS) provides the best available current data identifying the 6.6 million Gulf War service member population. The GWVIS reports monitor, in part, the service members’ use of Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) healthcare and disability benefits.

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/GWVIS-Report-Nov06-31dec06.htm

quote:
Preparation

VBA uses four steps to prepare the quarterly GWVIS reports:

1. Every three months, the DoD sends VBA an updated list identifying all current and prior military service members since the start of the Gulf War on August 2, 1990.

2. VBA compares DoD’s updated list of service members with VBA information systems.

3. VBA uses the results from the comparison to prepare reports about Gulf War veterans and their compensation and pension benefit use sorted by specific cohorts based on Gulf War deployment status.

4. VBA provides VHA a copy of the DoD data. VHA prepares the following reports for inclusions in the GWVIS Reports:

Gulf War Readjustment Counseling Service – Vet Center Utilization
Gulf War Service Member VHA Healthcare Enrollment by Priority Group
Gulf War Mortality Data




www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/GWVIS-Report-Nov06-31dec06.htm


quote:
VA works closely with DoD to identify service members recently deployed to Southwest Asia as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF) and/or Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF). Data about these service members provided by DoD to VBA remains incomplete, and the data may be delayed while DoD updates their computer system. VA will release the data as soon as it becomes available.

OEF Oct. 7, 2001 to present
OIF March 19, 2003 to present

From the 2006 report, but maybe it will help clarify the mistake of including OIF OEF veterans' mortality in these figures:


quote:
This study compared the mortality among the 621,902 Gulf War veterans who served at least one day during Operations
Desert Shield and Desert Storm (those arriving in the Southwest Asia theater of operations after August 2, 1990, but
before March 1, 1991) to the mortality among 746,248 non-Gulf War veterans who served during this conflict but were
not deployed to this area, and includes Active Duty, and activated Reserve Forces.

The Southwest Asia theater of operations is as defined by DoD’s Defense Manpower Data Center.

Non-Gulf War veterans used for comparison in this study were service members who served during this period but did
not deploy to the Southwest Asia theater of operations, and includes Active Duty, and activated Reserve Forces


http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/GWVIS-Report-Nov06-31dec06.htm
reports about Gulf War veterans
Gulf War 08/02/90 - 07/31/91

Lest we take that 73,846 as OIF OEF mortality numbers:
(I submit for information only)


quote:
an article in the November 5 European edition of Stars and Stripes noted that the Landstuhl military hospital in Germany had “treated more than 7,000 injured and ill servicemembers from Iraq.” At that time, the military had recorded some 2,000 combat casualties.

The Landstuhl facility, located near the huge Ramstein US airbase, reported January 23 that the total of US medical evacuations from Iraq to Germany by the end of 2003 was 9,433. The number of hostile and “non-hostile” wounded by that point listed by the Army was approximately 2,750.


Doing the math:
(Stars and Stripes)
2,000 official vs >7,000 actual = actual casualty 350% above official = 28.5% reported
(Landstuhl)
2,750 official vs 9,433 actual = actual casualty 343% above official = 29% reported

Old "news" but since the Bush administration is noted for "staying the course"
it's most probable they are still deliberately underreporting casualty figures.
{History Guy's numbers}
... at least 4,229 U.S. military deaths overall since the wars (OIF OEF) started — 3,842 in Iraq and 387 in and around Afghanistan.[/quote]
Bush administration typically reports about 29% of the actual numbers...
So, adjusting for the Bushlies ratio:
13,248 probable US military deaths in Iraq
1,334 probable US military deaths in Afghanistan
14,582 probable total US military deaths OIF OEF as of Nov 07
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