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Dan Rockwell
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Good post David. I've been in the environmental field for a while and am shocked by what is going on. I've heard more than one story of supposed environmentalists getting caught planting rare species of animals in places where they never were before. Others almost routinely abuse the endangered species act and have become so politically corrupted that it gets me sick. Most of them spend more time arguing about things and pointing fingers than they do anything else. I can't even count the times I've heard about people being forced to stop doing certain types of activities on their properties, etc. all because one of these supposed environmentalists finds some type of endangered species on the land.
Here in Stamford, we've got animals running around that you would of never seen a few years ago but are now a common sight. When I was a kid, I rarely saw deer, foxes, coyotes, wolves, bears, and other species but now people are seeing them all the time.
We've got so many deer that cases of tick borne diseases are affecting more and more people but whenever we try to do something about it, all these nuts come out of the woodwork and screw things up. Things are really starting to get out of hand. |
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David
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Sun Mar 17, 2002 7:11 am
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Thanks. Here's another one. http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mrd/mlpa/concepts.html
The MLPA is a hotly contested issue. It is just another attempt at grabbing the west from the people.
The national forests of the west are also being shut down to the public. Special interest groups and the feds will be the only ones allowed to use them. A pity the dumbed down American public does not speak out on these and other issues.
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Dan Rockwell
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Sun Mar 17, 2002 8:20 am
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David, I found something a little odd there.
c) A "state marine conservation area," is a non-terrestrial marine or estuarine area that is designated so the managing agency may achieve one or more of the following:
A "Non-terrestrial" marine or estuarine area? - NON-TERRESTRIAL? - I gotta think about that one for a while.
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afraidofsunlight
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Sun Mar 17, 2002 3:26 pm
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Report's of big cat's and Coyote's moving into Merryland, Bear's everywhere and plenty of Deer.
Those cat's won't go hungry.
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Lulu
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Sun Mar 17, 2002 5:38 pm
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There has never have been any shortages of Grizzly Bears, Wolves, Coyotes, Cougars, Rattlers, Deer, Elk, and Big Foot here in Kelowna (which means Grizzly Bear in the Okanagan tongue). Perhaps our abundant wildlife is being relocated elsewhere???
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roman
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Mon Mar 18, 2002 2:42 am
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Thanks David I knew that I had read something about re-wilding before.When I was a child in the 50-s it was a rare thing to see much wild life around this area.In those days almost everyone hunted when he had a oppertunity.So the heards of Deer remained small and hard to find.There was no Bears,Coyote,Canada goose,moderate amounts of rabbit and small game.Now The numbers of Deer are out of control,They stand In the entry of my house when the coyote chase them.roman... |
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BOB B
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Wed Mar 20, 2002 10:48 am
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The truck I mentioned earlier in this thread has been located, and low and behold, the Department of Natural Resources has opened up an office in our small little town of about 2000....kind of makes you wonder , especially since the trucks assigned operator claims hes never been to the area mentioned...HMMMMMM...I am seeing the print of more than one large cat, the dimentions of the tracks vary by two inches, and range between 3 1/2" and 5 1/2" in width
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KrissaTMC2
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Location: Greenwich, CT, USA |
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Thu Mar 21, 2002 12:15 am
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Better keep an eye on them BOB B, they're up to something. BTW, has there been anything unusual besides the mysterious big cats leaving tracks? Keep an eye out for white or black trucks with caps and a lot of electrical equipment as well as anything that looks like a covert military operation. I have a hunch, but have to check a few things out first. Also take a quick look at Dan's latest post in the "Drought Has Engulfed Nearly A Third Of The United States" thread.
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Dan Rockwell
Joined: 10 Dec 2001
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Thu Mar 28, 2002 5:39 pm
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Well BOB B, there's definitely something going on in Texas. Krissa was asleep at the wheel and didn't check out one of her favorite sites out until last night. It's just one possible explanation for the increased activity.
I'm just wondering if they were trying to get rid of the mutant fish and stuff or were just checking all the streams for contamination. It don't really explain the big cat tracks though unless they wanted to check the water covertly.
Fish Die-Off -USA (Texas)
February 6, 2002 -- The number of dead fish taken from Wadley-Barron Park has skyrocketed to 8000. According to city's Director of Community Services Monette Burke, the condition expected to be causing the die off -- golden algae bloom -- could result in a total extinction of fish in the 2.3 acre Central Midland park. "Usually in these cases, it is a total kill," Ms. Burke said. "There isn't anything which can be done. That is what we are being told." According to Ms. Burke, an official with the Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission (TNRCC) who was in Midland performing tests has stated preliminary tests indicate golden algae bloom as the reason for the die off. She indicated the TNRCC is reporting similar problems exist across the state -- including at the Pecos River and on some Central Texas lakes. According to Ms. Burke, golden algae bloom results when the water conditions get right in a pond or other body of water. The algae releases a toxin affecting the fish. It is not expected to affect turtles or other wildlife which reside at the particular body of water. The alarming figure is 8000-plus fish called Wadley-Barron home. It was impossible for city officials to determine if there are any live fish left in the pond or how many there actually were before the latest die off began. City officials said cremation is the safest way of disposing of the remains. http://www.watchmanjournal.org/outbreaks.html#176
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BOB B
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Sun Mar 31, 2002 4:14 pm
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HOLY S$%#!!! that site is WOW, got out the 456 weatherby today!!.You think they may have trained a cat to eat me???(lol!),He would spit me out ,Id taste like crap after smoking for 30 years! |
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Dan Rockwell
Joined: 10 Dec 2001
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Sun Mar 31, 2002 7:08 pm
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LOL, Anything is possible, Bob. In India, the people use tigers as guard dogs. On top of that, I have read many reports of sightings of non-indiginous animals such as big black cats in conjunction with unusual activity but we never suspected that they might be involved with the government until now. Most people are less likely to snoop around the woods with big cats on the prowl and no one would even really think too much about someone getting mauled by a big cat. They'd probably just blame it on some poor old toothless mountain lion. |
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Catnip57
Joined: 22 Apr 2001
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Location: Central Washington |
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Mon Apr 01, 2002 2:38 am
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I was in the book store a few days ago and happened to find a book about cougar attacks. Since I didn't want to fork over the big bucks for the cost of the book I sat and read portions of it there.
I was really shocked by some of the accounts I read.
It appears that big cat attacks are indeed on the rise... certain parks in this country definately have a problem with cats especially attacking young children. And the dismal thing about this is that a lot of these parks didn't have any warning signs posted to alert the public.
One of my favorite outdoors activity is to hike along some of the back trails in the woods... but after reading this I think I'll be bringing a gun for protection from now on.
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BOB B
Joined: 19 Jan 2002
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Wed Apr 03, 2002 5:39 pm
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I suggest that if you do shoot a large cat, do so with at least a large caliber hangun such as a .44 mag or a .357 mag, but preferably a high powered, large caliber rifle.Cats are notoriously hard to kill, and vengeful in the extreme when attacked
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