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Pineal gland; the seat of the soul PostMon Jun 23, 2008 9:15 pm  Reply with quote  

I am gonna' start this new thread from
Post 1
Thank you ronvaesn for the post.
I feel that there is some substantive information in that symposium that should be considered.
And the one I would point to as ronvaesn, is the contamination of the pineal gland among the general population.
It would answer a lot of things that are going on with the conciousness that we all see, all to often.
Here is a link I found after a short search.
This is a very interesting article to say the least.
Plato and the pineal gland? What's that about
I won't posts segments because of the knowledge in this article. It would be injustice to do so.
A big solid clue is the pine cone statue at the vatican.
And another ancient "pine cone" worth a look
Beginning with the reign of Ashurnasirpal II, Assyrian kings decorated the lower portions of their palace walls with monumental alabaster reliefs.
The deity also holds what looks like a "pine cone" in its other hand (upon close examination the object does indeed resemble a pine cone).
post 2
Fluoride Deposition in the Aged Human Pineal Gland
Fluoride does not accumulate in brain. Of all tissues, brain has the lowest fluoride concentration [Jenkins, 1991; Whitford, 1996; Ekstrand, 1996].
This study has added new knowledge on the fate and distribution of fluoride in the body. It has shown for the first time that fluoride readily accumulates in the human pineal gland although there was considerable inter-individual variation (14-875 mg F/kg). By old age, the average pineal gland contains about the same amount of fluoride as teeth (300 mg F/kg)
I would point out that fluoride is a metal such is the same as barium and aluminum dioxide.
When doctors read a brain x ray the pineal gland is the focal point as it clearly stands out because of the metals collected within the pineal gland.. If it is off center it is probably a tumor growth pushing it off center.
I have also read a paper from an ivy league college doctor stating nanoviruses that cause the collection of calcium in the pineal also.
post 3 from free world order
Now that the government allow and endorse recycling of radioactive waste in metals manufacturing and dumping of depleted (spent) radioactive materials in our neighbourhoods, why is it hard to think they won't spray anything toxic when they have in the past, according to unclassified documents. I agree we need some balance in the extremes, but as I see it is not the ingredients or methods that are in question but more so the reasons for such use in the first place, and how one could class such actions as solutions to a problem I will never accept or understand.

Now that dumping radioactive waste in the oceans is outlawed - they dump it in our back yards.
England's waste traces from one plant to all corners of the planet!

Effects of Fluoride on the brain.

SUMMARY: This study reports accumulation of fluoride and altered activities
of some enzymes involved in free-radical metabolism and membrane function
in whole brain and gastrocnemius muscle of female mice treated with NaF
(20mg/kg/body weight) for 14 days. The body weight and somatic index were
decreased, whereas fluoride levels were significantly increased (p<0.01) in
both brain and gastrocnemius muscle. The enzymes SOD, GST, and catalase
decreased significantly (p<0.01) in contrast to XOD activity, which moderately
increased. SDH, LDH, AlAT, AAT, and CPK activities and membrane-bound
+ + ++ ++
enzymes, viz Na -K , Mg and Ca ATPase and AChE were decreased signifi-
cantly (p<0.01) in both brain and gastrocnemius muscle. The effect of fluoride
on enzymes of muscle was comparatively larger, which corroborates the
greater accumulation of fluoride in muscle than brain. This study therefore
shows that both brain and muscle are affected by fluoride with inhibition of
some enzymes associated with free-radical metabolism, energy production
and transfer, membrane transport, and synaptic transmission, but with an en-
hanced activity of XOD.
post 4
Effects of Fluoride on the brain.


This article is typical of what I have been seeing. I just note that in the first 3 paragraphs it states " accumilation of fluoride in the hippocampus of the brain."
Now it collects in the Pineal "gland" ....... more misdirection. And lots of it.
All their fancy words to misdirect.
Why not state it?
The pineal gland by their definition is NOT part of the brain.
I hope all does not overlook the possibility of the puzzle of chemtrails and the REAL reason why, be overlooked and not considered here.
Please consider that this "theory" finally pieces it all together.


Excerpted from Aerosol Crimes (56:32 ­ 1:11:54):

Dr. Gwen Scott: " It's interesting that one of the most frequently asked questions for those that are conscious and aware of this aerosol operation is ­ is this intended to harm us? And I can't answer that, I don't know,"


post 5 free world order
Interesting then is that it may cause memory loss because of this.

post 6
I was on two ivy league schools reading papers that unoquivicly state that fluoride will not collect in the brain but in the pineal gland. and "studies show alzheimers and fluoride in the pineal are fact and proof that ties alzhiemers and fluoride to the pineal and not to the "brain".
Here is one


Fluoride does not accumulate in brain. Of all tissues, brain has the lowest fluoride concentration [Jenkins, 1991; Whitford, 1996; Ekstrand, 1996]. It is generally agreed that the blood-brain barrier restricts the passage of fluoride into the central nervous system. The human pineal gland is outside the blood-brain barrier [Arendt, 1995]. It is one of a few unique regions in the brain (all midline structures bordering the third and fourth ventricles) where the blood-brain barrier is weak. Cells in these regions require direct and unimpeded contact with blood [Rapoport, 1976]. Therefore, pinealocytes have free access to fluoride in the bloodstream. This fact, coupled with the presence of HA, suggest that the pineal gland may sequester fluoride from the bloodstream.


Fluoride Deposition in the Aged Human Pineal Gland
Jennifer Luke
School of Biological Sciences, University of Surrey, Guildford, UK
Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, The Royal London Hospital


1. Pre-Cartesian Views on the Pineal Gland
The pineal gland or pineal body is a small gland in the middle of the head. It often contains calcifications (“brain sand”) which make it an easily identifiable point of reference in X-ray images of the brain. The pineal gland is attached to the outside of the substance of the brain near the entrance of the canal (“aqueduct of Sylvius”) from the third to the fourth ventricle of the brain (Figure 1). It is nowadays known that the pineal gland is an endocrine organ, which produces the hormone melatonin in amounts which vary with the time of day. But this is a relatively recent discovery. Long before it was made, physicians and philosophers were already busily speculating about its functions.
“My view is that this gland is the principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed. The reason I believe this is that I cannot find any part of the brain, except this, which is not double. Since we see only one thing with two eyes, and hear only one voice with two ears, and in short have never more than one thought at a time, it must necessarily be the case that the impressions which enter by the two eyes or by the two ears, and so on, unite with each other in some part of the body before being considered by the soul. Now it is impossible to find any such place in the whole head except this gland; moreover it is situated in the most suitable possible place for this purpose, in the middle of all the concavities; and it is supported and surrounded by the little branches of the carotid arteries which bring the spirits into the brain” (29 January 1640, AT III:19-20, CSMK 143). And as he wrote later that year: “Since it is the only solid part in the whole brain which is single, it must necessarily be the seat of the common sense, i.e., of thought, and consequently of the soul.
START QUOTE: After all, the caller's cerebral cortex is just centimeters away from radiation broadcast from the phone's antenna. Two studies provide some revealing news.
." But it quickly became obvious to Horne and colleagues in preparing for the sleep-research experiments that some of the test subjects had difficulty falling asleep.
Remember the pineal secretes the hormone involved with sleep.
May I take this a step further. If the fine mettalic particles collect in th pineal gland (Fluoride, Barium ,etc.) and then exposed to electromagnetic transmissions . Then follow this quote from the post "Hospitals and airplanes ban the use of cell phones, because their electromagnetic transmissions can interfere with sensitive electrical devices. Could the brain also fall into that category?" My contention is yes! Especially if fine mettallics collect in the"seat of the soul".
Mettalic particles and electromagnetic waves cause havoc! Just put porcelen with mettalic paint in a microwave or aluminum foil and you will see real fast.
". . . that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God." -- Thomas Jefferson's Last Letter, June 24, 1826

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Thanks for the additional details. I don't disagree, I looked at some journals about the hippocampus and fluoride after you mentioned that. Regarding EMR/EMW scientists do say the brain uses its own electricity, I have not studied it in much details but was able to find out the brain transmits by itself without any modifications by chips or anything alike. It was new research at the time. Alzheimer's is caused by smoking and pesticides we are told. I agree with that, because cigarettes already contain a natural high dosage of a chemical insecticide that is the most addictive drug on the planet.

I know of people that lived by farmers fields by the spray of pesticides that became disabled after several months of living there! They became blind, paralysed and much more, received no compensation and lost all court cases even though scientists can prove the link. Politicians denied laws limiting spray areas surrounding the edges of fields back then and still do today. I can say with certainty all pesticides are made to kill life, and specifically more so humans than anything else, that was their original design and purpose with full intent and it was successful over 60 years ago and sill is to this day via direct or indirect accumulation exposure. Human pesticides are used in many drugs still. As for Fluoride another Nazi cocktail - that is in all anti depressants.

There is a lot of Barium and Fluoride in the soils, natural and unnatural. And in this are also heavy metals and arsenic. I am concerned about the heavy metals least of all than the others, but all are negative to have in soils when we grow crops and finally eat them some day, it is like drinking bore hole water that contains Barium, not good. Or like mining in mountainous areas then deciding to eat or inhale the dust that contains barium or arsenic. On top of this we have man made lead and mercury contaminants in soils, so not only do we directly poison ourselves by end products we use daily but in our food as well. There is a solution to this, vertical farming. It won't cleanup the environment but it will allow reforestation and clean green foods and industry, thus preventing further pollution of the environment.
". . . that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God." -- Thomas Jefferson's Last Letter, June 24, 1826

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I pose these question to this forum.
What is a statue of a pine cone doing in Vatican square Question
What is it Question
A pineal gland Question
". . . that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God." -- Thomas Jefferson's Last Letter, June 24, 1826
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