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Pollution dims skies as well as befouling the air PostThu Mar 12, 2009 7:55 pm  Reply with quote  

Changes in aerosols can affect weather and also may have an impact on climate, though past studies have been inconclusive. These pollutants can result in cooling by reflecting sunlight back into space, but they also can absorb solar energy, warming the atmosphere.

Wait, what's this? I'm right... oh no wait, but every PhD that has stepped foot at this place has told me I'm wrong, I don't know what I'm talking about. Hahahahaha... *gets up on top the throne and looks down at all the little meteorologists shooting their arrows up at me... It feel sooo good to be on top of things.
Most nations and militaries in the world promote their bright young scientists, not the US Govt and US Military, they intimidated their brightest one.
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Standing ovation PostSat Mar 14, 2009 5:55 am  Reply with quote  

We know your cool weatherman.
Thomas Jefferson. " Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't."
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PostSat Mar 14, 2009 1:36 pm  Reply with quote  

Careful Weatherman, you'll be agreeing with Pat Minnis next!

More here about the cause and effects of the Asian Brown Cloud, the biggest and most (in)famous bit of atmospheric pollution:
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Scientists tracking pollution from China to the US PostSat Mar 14, 2009 6:38 pm  Reply with quote

Satellite Measures Pollution From East Asia to North America
Tracking pollution produced in China as it moves to North America
This article is republished from a NASA news release from March, 2008

In a new NASA study, researchers taking advantage of improvements in satellite sensor capabilities offer the first measurement-based estimate of the amount of pollution from East Asian forest fires, urban exhaust, and industrial production that makes its way to western North America.

China, the world's most populated country, has experienced rapid industrial growth, massive human migrations to urban areas, and considerable expansion in automobile use over the last two decades. As a result, the country has doubled its emissions of man-made pollutants to become the world's largest emitter of tiny particles called pollution aerosols that are transported across the Pacific Ocean by rapid airstreams emanating from East Asia.

Hongbin Yu, an associate research scientist of the University of Maryland Baltimore County working at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., grew up in China and taught there as a university professor, where he witnessed first-hand and studied how pollution from nearby power plants in China affected the local environment. Early this decade, scientists began using emerging high-accuracy satellite data to answer key questions about the role tiny particles play in the atmosphere, and eventually expanded their research to include continent-to-continent pollution transport. So Yu teamed with other researchers to take advantage of the innovations in satellite technology and has now made the first-ever satellite-based estimate of pollution aerosols transported from East Asia to North America.

The new measurements from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) instrument on NASA's Terra satellite substantiate the results of previous model-based studies, and are the most extensive to date. The new study will be published this spring in the American Geophysical Union's Journal of Geophysical Research-Atmospheres.

"We used the latest satellite capabilities to distinguish industrial pollution and smoke from dust transported to the western regions of North America from East Asia. Looking at four years of data from 2002 to 2005 we estimated the amount of pollution arriving in North America to be equivalent to about 15 percent of local emissions of the U.S. and Canada," Yu said. "This is a significant percentage at a time when the U.S. is trying to decrease pollution emissions to boost overall air quality. This means that any reduction in our emissions may be offset by the pollution aerosols coming from East Asia and other regions."

Yu and his colleagues measured the trans-Pacific flow of pollution in teragrams, a unit of measurement of the mass of pollution aerosol (1 teragram is about 2.2 billion pounds). Satellite data confirmed 18 teragrams -- almost 40 billion pounds -- of pollution aerosol was exported to the northwestern Pacific Ocean and 4.5 teragrams - nearly 10 billion pounds -- reached North America annually from East Asia over the study period.

How ironic is that they are flooding our country with their currency manipulated imports and poisoning us with their unregulated manufacturing processes that are literally killing this planet's ecosystem.



Skies over China have darkened in the past five decades, thanks to a nine-fold increase fossil-fuel emissions. In January 2006, Yun Qian and collaborators reported this finding in Geophysical Research Letters. According to the Associated Press, Qian stated that pollution absorbs and reflects sunlight, allowing less of it to reach China’s urban areas.

The Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) flying onboard the Aqua satellite captured this image on January 27, 2006. In this image, a thick plume of smog makes its way across the Yellow Sea towards Korea. To the east, cloud cover can be discerned by its bright white appearance, compared to the pollution’s dingy gray. Caption and Image from NASA Earth Observatory.

(CBS) Where to start? With the melting glaciers of Mount Everest?

Or a village in Shanxi province that survives on trucked-in water — because underground explosions for coal mining have drained the lakes and wells. The coal keeps electric plants humming, but the mining generates pollution that has left farm fields toxic.

Nothing can grow here anymore, one resident told CBS News correspondent Barry Petersen. Sinkholes swallowed village graves and the coal dust makes breathing hard — which is why 400,000 people each year die prematurely from lung disease.

And thanks to bad air, China has 16 of the world's top 20 polluted cities.

Take Beijing, which just proudly announced it now has 3 million cars ... so clear days give way to more bad pollution days.

And there's a new danger: Dust storms from the northern Gobi Desert used to hit once a decade. Now it's once a year; visibility can drop to less than a city block.

It's happening because every day the Gobi Desert moves a little more south, claiming land left barren by overgrazing or from water shortages because of too much irrigation.

In fact, Petersen reports, the leading edge of the desert is less than 50 miles from downtown Beijing.

China's uses America's inaction on the environment as an excuse.

"They say as long as the U.S. doesn't move forward, how can you expect a poor country like China to move forward," said University of Michigan China scholar Ken Leiberthal.

And an ill wind is blowing China's bad air to America. Steve Cliff already sees Chinese pollutants on his monitors in northern California and worries about China's ever-increasing dependence on coal.

"It stands to reason that if one new coal-fired power plant is built per week that more pollution will be evidenced here in the United States," said Cliff.

That also means Americans may soon be paying a price for China's polluted rise to prosperity.

Long story short this recession/depression is going to help(temporarily) clean up the environment mean while our Chinese friends need to look at going green as well and they are researching solar and more eco friendly means to power their industries.

I applaud them for taking the steps necessary so that we don't poison further our already fragile environment. Their almost total reliance on coal to produce electricity is having an environmental impact on their rain fall and it is now having an impact on the western part of our country as well. These droughts are in part perhaps tied to this massive particulate release which could be interfering with normal cloud development and prevailing wind patterns.

In all fairness the US has very little room to talk since we consume 25% of the world's oil and lots of it's resources. Now that everybody else is getting into the game our planet's ability to absorb such variance could go beyond her ability to self regulate those changes.

I do not have an agenda against the Chinese by any means but merely feel the need to point out certain deficiencies that our special relationship is experiencing at this time.

Population explosions in certain parts of the world will lead to famine wars and mass outbreaks of diseases. Water and the lack there of are going to be a big driver of things to come and wars to come.

Kentucky is the only state in the south that is not being affected by the drought at this time, thank the good Lord for that!
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Top most polluted cities in the US PostSat Mar 14, 2009 7:02 pm  Reply with quote  

posted to demonstate fair and balanced reporting in regards to the global pollution problem. We are in fact not in a positon to point fingers yet we are now positioning ourselves to a leader in the new greener economy.

A means for creating jobs and EXPORTING technologies to other countries.

The good news is that if we were talking about the 20 top polluted cities in the world, no U.S. city would make the list. In fact, according to a 2006 CNN study, China owned 16 of the top 20 cities on the list of the worst polluters. So much for the notion of American decadence destroying the environment.

America does have its share of pollution contributors, unfortunately. In spite of the fact that The United States has signed (but not ratified) the Kyoto Protocol, under which it has pledged to reduce its carbon emissions 7% below 1990 levels by 2008-2012, U.S. carbon emissions have continued to rise steadily since 1990 and are predicted to reach almost 2,000 million metric tons per year by 2020.

PartnerOne EnvironmentalYour single source for environmental insurance air pollutionImprove Your Health. Call Our IAQ Specialists. BBB Accredited Pollution ControlExpert Industrial Dust Collection. Get Dust Collectors & Filters Now!www.FarrAPC.comThe American Lung Association ranks cities based on two types of airborne pollutants: ozone, also known as smog, and particulates.

Ozone is an irritating, invisible gas that is formed most often by a reaction of sunlight and vapors emitted when fuel is burned by vehicles, factories, power plants and other sources. It is usually at its worst during the summer months. Smog can cause immediate health problems, like asthma attacks, coughing and wheezing, shortness of breath, or chest pain. Breathing high levels of smog long term can also cause reduced lung function, inflamed lung lining, and other respiratory problems.

According the American Lung Association State of the Air: 2007 report, these are the top ten most ozone-polluted U.S. metropolitan areas:

1 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA
2 Bakersfield, CA
3 Visalia-Porterville, CA
4 Fresno-Madera, CA
5 Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX
6 Merced, CA
7 Dallas-Fort Worth, TX
8 Sacramento-Arden-Arcade-Trucke e, CA-NV
9 Baton Rouge-Pierre Part, LA
10 New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA

Particle pollution is too small to really see. The microscopic pollutant particles can measure 1/7 to 1/30 the diameter of a single human hair-or smaller. Particle pollution comes from many sources; they are usually a complex mixture that can include ash, soot, diesel exhaust, chemicals, metals, and aerosols. A large source of airborne particles, especially in the eastern U.S. is power plants that burn coal to produce electricity. In the western U.S., vehicles, heavy equipment, as well as agriculture and wood burning can also produce dangerous levels of particulate pollution. The American Lung Association State of the Air: 2007 lists these as the top ten particle polluting U.S. metropolitan areas:

1 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside, CA
2 Pittsburgh-New Castle, PA
3 Bakersfield, CA
4 Birmingham-Hoover-Cullman, AL
4 Detroit-Warren-Flint, MI
6 Cleveland-Akron-Elyria, OH
7 Visalia-Porterville, CA
8 Cincinnati, OH-Middletown, KY-Wilmington, IN
9 Indianapolis-Anderson-Columbus , IN
10 St. Louis-St. Charles-Farmington, MO-IL

It is interesting to note that eight of the top ten ozone polluting cities are in the West, while even with Los Angeles topping both lists, six of the top ten particle polluters are in eastern, traditional industrial cities.

Here is a list of the top 10 most polluted cities on the planet

10. Dzerzhinsk, Russia
9. Kabwe, Zambia
8. La Oroya, Peru
7. Linfen, China
6. Norilsk, Russia
5. Sukinda, India
4. Tianying, China
3. Vapi, India
2. Sumqayit, Azerbaijan
1. Chernobyl, Ukraine

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PostSun Mar 15, 2009 3:15 am  Reply with quote  

I did my study of aerosols and the weather over the US in the summer of 2007 right here on this board. All of the threads are still there by the way. It was an in depth look at looking at pollution on satellite photos as well as comparing the effects of man made pollution versus the effects on the weather from chemtrails and weather modification in an attempt to pin point what pollution the machines that I was in charge of in Baltimore were picking up. It was the only way to determing the true effect of chemtrails and it required extensive time and effort.
The brown asian cloud is truly disgusting to say the least. Their air quality is so bad that the acid rain has to be generating PH's somewhere in the high 3's or lower 4's across mainland China. There was an article from Hong Kong in the fall of '07 celebrating their best air quality in years from the strongest La Nina in years pushing all of the pollution that normally comes from mainland China back inland towards China, giving them visibiliies into the 20 and 30 mile range. Eventually the acid rain will prevent crops from growing across China and it will begin to cripple their crop production from acidic soils.
If one wants to find a comparsion to the Chinese Govt and going Green and understanding entirely what it means... compare it to the average meteorologist and understanding how to manipulate the jet stream through aerosols. The rest of the world understands the benefits of going green, the Chinese govt doesn't, We understand how the airforce manipulates the weather, most meteorologists don't. It's two different realities with each side thinking they are right.
Most nations and militaries in the world promote their bright young scientists, not the US Govt and US Military, they intimidated their brightest one.
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