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Catnip57

Joined: 22 Apr 2001
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Mon Apr 08, 2002 9:00 am
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I asked if he thought this rash was related to the outbreak of rashes over the United Stated for past few months and he said he hasn't heard about that, that I probably know more about it than he! When I asked for this tentative diagnosis in writing the doctor became defensive and said he really doesn't know what it is for sure, but I am welcome to get a second opinion.
Lulu... when I read this portion of your last story all I could think was... what the heck!!... it's definitely obvious this doctor doesn't have a clue what your son has and I'm willing to bet he does know about the rashes and is just as much at a loss to explain their causes as the rest of the physicians confronted with this mystery. I'm willing to bet they're all getting a bit on the defensive side since this thing is challenging the medical community and they're probably worried about law suits and that's probably why you didn't get a written description... he doesn't want to be held libel for a mis-diagnosis.
The comment about you being threatening and hostile is really uncalled for... I'm wondering if this is going to be the new description for parents who get worked up about their kids health problems. That's sad!
I had a conversation with my brother recently that concerned problems some school kids were having in Gig Harbor Washington... it had something to do with blisters or welts... can't remember all the details. But I do remember reading a while back about a spraying operation that took place in Gig Harbor which left some kind of residue or goo over the area and plenty of people and animals came down with some really strange illnesses. I've tried to find that story but I'll have to keep looking. I'm not even sure what year this spraying happened, but when I find the story I'll post it. It made me wonder if perhaps this new outbreak of blisters with the kids had something to do with that particular spray operation.
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Tue Apr 09, 2002 2:37 am
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Krissa thanks for all the links...I checked them all out and none matched my son's. That's because the rash was NOT Pityriasis but an allergic reaction to something, although we couldn't think of what and ruled out medication, nor any new foods. My family Dr.(who has never steered me wrong in 12 yrs.) knew right away it was hives and prescribed Reactine and Benydryl. Said also that 80% of the time you never find out what caused the allergic reaction, but once had will never have this reaction again as body builds up immunity. There certainly is a lot of excellent and on-the-ball physicians out there!
The comment about you being threatening and hostile is really uncalled for... I'm wondering if this is going to be the new description for parents who get worked up about their kids health problems. That's sad!
Good call Catnip, I Like 3T3 said, a concerned parent has the right to question.
Oregon, my son doesn't fear anything.
Knew eyes, how's your boys? Great post with all the info and links. Thanks
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KnewEyes

Joined: 23 Apr 2001
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Location: under those cloud-like things |
Wed Apr 10, 2002 4:34 am
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The kids are fine now Lulu, the rash is gone, it was a short lived. The rashes were different though, it was 2 different types. My son had a bumpy one on his face and neck and eye that resembled poison sumac, or oak, but wasn't because that spreads and takes a long time to clear up, and leaves the affected area reddened for a while. His only lasted a few days and was gone. My daughter, his twin, had a flat red rash, like a large hive,on the crook of her arm which extended down the inner forearm which itched alot.She said it lasted only for about an hr, and was gone.
I didn't think your son had what the Dr diagnosed him as having, from the description differences Lulu. I wonder what the heck is going around that the kids are getting hives from? Kids that never had an allergic reaction in their life. |
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Lulu
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Fri Jun 21, 2002 2:30 pm
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quote: Mysterious Children's Rash Has
Now Spread To 27 States
By Amanda Gardner
HealthScoutNews Reporter
6-21-2
(HealthScoutNews) - Federal health officials are scratching their heads over a mysterious set of rashes now afflicting schoolchildren in 27 states. An initial report issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in March reported outbreaks in 14 states: Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Mississippi, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Virginia, Washington and West Virginia.
Since then, another 13 states have joined the list, says the CDC. The new states are: Alabama, Alaska, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, and New Jersey. Similar rashes have also been reported in Canada.
Although the number of reported rashes is growing, "there's still no evidence for a common cause for all of the reports," CDC spokesman Mike Groutt says. "Investigations have identified causes for some of the rashes occurring in some of the schools. Regardless of the cause of the rashes, including those of unknown origin, reports indicate that they are self-limiting and affected children have few if any accompanying signs or symptoms."
No single cause has been identified, and the CDC emphasizes there's no evidence that all of the rashes are linked. Officials have also been quick to point out that rashes are common among schoolchildren and can be caused by a variety of factors. They include medications, dry or sensitive skin, eczema, allergies, viral infections and environmental factors.
However, the recent spate of rashes have raised concern because they've occurred simultaneously in various locales across the nation. They also began in the wake of Sept. 11 and subsequent anthrax attacks.
Between October 2001 and May 2002, rashes were reported among groups of schoolchildren at about 110 U.S. elementary, middle and high schools. The number of children affected at each school ranged from five to 274 (or less than 1 percent to 47 percent of the student population). Girls accounted for varying proportions of the affected -- from 33 percent to 100 percent.
The rashes themselves also had varied characteristics. Most children reported an itchy, sunburn-like rash on the cheeks and arms, a burning sensation on the skin or a hive-like reaction that moved from one part of the body to another. They tended to go away on their own, either within in an hour or sometimes not for more than a month.
Some states have managed to track down a cause. In New York, an outbreak among 242 elementary and middle-school students (representing 7 percent of the population of their school district) between January and April was determined to be the result of parvovirus B19, which causes fifth disease, an infection of red blood cells. Alaska, Illinois, Kentucky, Minnesota, and Mississippi have also had cases associated with parvovirus B19.
Other outbreaks might be psychogenic -- a response to seeing another child with a rash.
For the meantime, the CDC seems to be playing it cool, emphasizing the rashes do go away on their own and that most children don't have any other, more disruptive symptoms. The organization "is continuing to monitor reports of groups of schoolchildren with rashes and is providing technical assistance to state and local health departments," the researchers report in tomorrow's issue of the CDC publication Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.
http://www.healthscoutnews.com/view.cfm?id=507760
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Dan Rockwell

Joined: 10 Dec 2001
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Fri Jul 12, 2002 8:27 pm
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July 10, 2002
Minn. Clinic Warns of Faulty Vaccine
ASSOCIATED PRESSMINNEAPOLIS- Freezing temperatures may have ruined thousands of doses of vaccines, meaning patients may need new injections, but the clinic that gave the shots said no one was in danger.
About 3,400 people, half of them children, received the questionable vaccines from Park Nicollet Clinic in the Minneapolis metropolitan area.
The vaccines included polio booster shots, hepatitis A and B shots and Prevnar, a vaccine for infants and toddlers. There have been no signs of illness so far among the patients, though some probably weren't protected against disease, said Dr. Hal Martin, medical director of Park Nicollet's travel clinic.
The patients received their vaccines on days when temperatures in storage rooms fell below freezing. The vaccines are supposed to be kept at 35 to 46 degrees.
The problem came to light at a Park Nicollet clinic in suburban Minnetonka. A check of storage logs revealed the same problem at eight other Park Nicollet sites since December.
The same cold-storage problem has also been found at five or six other unidentified clinics in Minnesota, state epidemiologist Kristen Ehresmann said.
It also has been happening around the country, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. Park Nicollet said it was spending about $300,000 to correct the problem, including providing replacement shots.
Getting a second vaccine is safe, medical officials said. "It might cause a sore arm, but you cannot be overvaccinated," Martin said.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/thrive/2002/jul/10/071005743.html |
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MrNuke
Joined: 12 Apr 2002
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Wed Jul 31, 2002 5:55 am
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I don't want to alarm anyone, but there is a serious skin disease spreading that appears to be caused by parasites. Thousands of people have reported this to the CDC over the last few years, but they keep ignoring us. And of course, they use the regular story to keep this covered up....we're crazy. I don't know if you or your kids have this, but be aware that it does exist and avoid any contact that is not necessary. I am the only one in my family affected, wife and kids are asymptomatic. Also, remember that many serious diseases, like Lyme's Disease, starts with a rash that goes away quickly. Please visit the following web sites to learn more about this disease and to see if you might be affected. One thing I do know for sure...as a result of illegal immigration and globalization, parasites are an unchecked epidemic in the U.S. An easy way to check yourself is to eat some pumpkin seeds and see what comes out with them. Please don't mention this to your kids, as it will scare them. It scares me too.
http://www.rewells.com/BUGS/
http://www.skinparasites.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=list&forum=DCForumID8&conf=DCConfID2
http://www.safe2use.com/scabiesboard/wwwboard.html
http://www.thecomfortzone.org/
http://www.morgellons.org/
http://www.myskin.4t.com/hairthings.htm
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Catnip57

Joined: 22 Apr 2001
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Wed Jul 31, 2002 6:58 am
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Mr. Nuke.... Welcome to the Chemtrail Forum... Are you saying that you've been exposed to a type of skin parasite? Do you have rash symptoms and did you have a doctor diagnose you?
What's the deal with the pumpkin seeds.. is this some type of cure? And do these parasites look like a worm? Guess maybe I should read the links you posted.. I might find answers to some of my questions there..
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increase 1776
Joined: 07 Oct 2000
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Wed Jul 31, 2002 7:21 am
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Mr.Nuke Wecome aboard. The skin parasite site is pretty good been checking it out for last year and a half. I have been experiencing skin problems for just over three years now. Dermatologist couldn't figure out what it is but would write scripts for doxycyclene .A years worth.Check out a good skin doc. If, you can find one.My rash almost goes away and then,it's back again.Skin parasites,mold from water damage in the home,chemtrails,or a combination of all ,all possibilities. Hang in there. |
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MrNuke
Joined: 12 Apr 2002
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Wed Jul 31, 2002 8:32 pm
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Catnip,
Yes, I seem to have some kind of skin parasite.... as described in the links.
Read this for one man's story: http://www.rewells.com/page1.html
The pumpkin seeds will usually kill some of the internal parasites people are describing. I mentioned it, as it is the cheapest way to check. There are many sites on the net selling anti-parsite medicines. You can also buy black walnut hull extract, wormwood, and cloves which are the most common ingedients of most of these medicines.
I mention this because everyone who has the skin parasites... who has checked....has also found internal parasites too. Most people seem to be unwilling to check their stool, so we really don't know if there is a definite connection between the internal parasites and what people are finding on their skin.
Here is another link with extensive research and historical info. http://members4.boardhost.com/Kritters/
I don't know how chemtrails are related to this disease. Some have suggested we are being sprayed to cure us, while others think we are being infected by the trails.
What ever the case, many are suffereing from this disease, and doctors refuse to admit it exists, despite all the physical samples that have been submitted to them. I asked three doctors to run DNA tests to identify the fibers....and they all refused....even though I was willing to pay for the analysis.
God Bless Us All.
MN
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Catnip57

Joined: 22 Apr 2001
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Thu Aug 01, 2002 6:12 am
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MrNuke... I had a chance last night to look at pictures and read some of the articles on the links that you posted... I have to say I've never seen anything like what they describe Elliot's disease to be. It looks definately dreadful. You have my sympathies.
I'm real puzzled why the doctors won't do a DNA analysis on those fibers... you should still check around to find one that will.. it could give them some much needed information that could help with your condition. |
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MrNuke
Joined: 12 Apr 2002
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Thu Aug 01, 2002 10:56 pm
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Catnip,
Thanks for taking the time to read the articles. However, if you read enough of the articles, you would realize that doctors/dermatologists refuse to admit that this disease exists....despite the fact that no scientific studies have ever been done. They use the same tactics as chemtrails. They deny their existence and/or claim the person is crazy.
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Unhappy Trails

Joined: 10 May 2002
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Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:28 am
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Hello everyone. I'm going to step out on a limb here and suggest you research manganese poisoning. Manganese came back 7x EPA Risk Base Exposure in the soil I had analysed. So did selenium. Which means absolutely nothing because it didn't come from the center of a plume, right? It's interesting though to speculate as the symptoms of toxic exposure are quite similar to what y'all have been descibing. I don't know about you but the next blood workup I have done I'm asking for a manganese tox screen. www.espimetals.com. Click on Materials and Safety Data, then take a look at manganese sulfide/ manganese/selenium. Could most definitely be 'nothing at all' but my imagination.
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