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PHXPilot
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Professor, if its not too much trouble, please change your avatar. You are obviously trying to fool around so people will get confused. And its not a picnic for me, trying to pick out my own posts in a thread at a glance with us both having the same avatar. |
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the professor
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Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:48 am
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how's this? |
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Jeanie
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Sun Feb 23, 2003 3:28 am
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Commercial air traffic is one thing, the distribution of chemtrails is quite another.
Pilot; Just to clarify, I believe you misunderstood my above statement. As to wether commercial planes have a part in aerosol spraying, I do not know so I don't make that claim. The saturation of contrails in our skies from commercial flights has a negative effect I'm sure but in addition and worse is the spray program. This being done with the knowledge and approval of all governments involved. Are they evil? Examine the facts, one of which is of experimentation on the military. A good source of information is former captain and gulf war vet Joyce Riley. That's but a tip of the iceburg. You also have inumerable articles published on this site by Mech. Do some research yourself, there's a ton of it out there. I suspect you know all this and have already chosen sides. |
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PHXPilot
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Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:02 am
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Much better Prof. Thank you.
Jeanie: I know that many of you guys do not think that airliners are taking part in the spraying. But when I see the dozens and dozens of chemtrails photos on this site and others showing airliners "spraying", I cant take that seriously.
You say that you can tell chemtrails from contrails because chemtrailsl last for many hours, billow out, and grow. When I see this coming from an airliner in my backyard, I have to assume that you are claiming airliners are spraying. You may not consiously say that they are, but your definition of "chemtrials" does mean that they are spraying.
Your theory that only the military or others are spraying cannot be taken seriously when both military and commercial traffic are making the exact same billowy contrails.
You can either claim none are spraying, or all of them are. |
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the professor
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Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:09 am
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That last statement is perplexing. I detest
that theory leaves no room for any other
theory. It's a bit clostrophobic. |
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PHXPilot
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Sun Feb 23, 2003 4:32 am
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I guess it is a tad perplexing. 
But what Im trying to say is that, your definition of a "chemtrails" automatically makes the statement that airliners are spraying. It seems strange to me that you can say that the military is spraying, but airliners are not, when they are both clearly producing the same type of billowy contrail.
Im not trying to force you into saying they all are spraying or none are. Im just pointing out that your definition of "chemtrails" means that all aircraft that make these types of contrails are spraying.
When you see Delta Air Lines flight 273 to Philadelphia making a billowy, long lasting, growing contrail, then see a USAF KC-135 making the exact same type of contrail, then claim that only the military is spraying and not the airlines, it seems a tad hypocritical.
Thats all. |
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the professor
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Sun Feb 23, 2003 9:06 am
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PHXPilot
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Sun Feb 23, 2003 8:34 pm
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oooooookay. Let me start from the top.
I have been trying to show people why airliners cannot spray secretly. Then you guys change your story, and tell me that you guys think that only the military is spraying and not airliners. I ask how you know if a jet is spraying. You guys respond with photos showing big, billowy, long lasting contrails. You say that when you see a jet producing these contrails, they must be spraying. But BOTH airliners and military aircraft make this type of big, billowy, contrails. So Im just pointing out that your own definition of "chemtrail" that you guys created already constrains you to proclaiming that both military and the airlines are spraying.
Understand? |
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msu94
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Sun Feb 23, 2003 10:14 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by the professor:
1 more quick one here. you say virga?
If the atmosphere is dry enough to
soak up moisture you can't get miles
long contrails that spread into cloud
cover. You actually think people will
buy this contradiction?
Well but you are comparing two different situations and two different kinds of atmosphereic phenomena
Virga does not happen up high. It happens in the lower levels of atmosphere when the air is suffiently dry so that lots of the liquid precip evaporates as it falls thru warmer and denser air. Is very common in the southwest, especially in the summer.
Contrail dynamics are something completely different. Water droplets of a very small size result from the exhaust and are in the very thin and very cold atmosphere levels.
Sometimes they evaporate quickly depending on temps, humidity. Sometimes they do not, and end up freezing into ice crystals, becoming in a way, cirrus.
Contrary to what one chemtrail believer stated recently, ice crystals can exist up high. The whole chemtrail theory hinged on the belief that jet engine exhaust can not become ice crystals.
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Feelin Kocky
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Mon Feb 24, 2003 2:16 am
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>>CHEMTRAILS are NOT ice crystals, but polymer fibers<<
Do polymer fibers cause halos, corona, irridensence, or sundogs?
F.K. |
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the professor
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Mon Feb 24, 2003 2:41 am
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I would presume the chemicals that are in them would yes. |
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Feelin Kocky
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Mon Feb 24, 2003 3:29 am
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I'm sure you do presume. So, how exactly? Surely you can show that all these "chemicals" have EXACTLY the same properties as water as to form EXACTLY the same size and shape of crystals to produce EXACTLY the same effects.
F.K. |
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msu94
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Mon Feb 24, 2003 4:18 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Feelin Kocky:
>>CHEMTRAILS are NOT ice crystals, but polymer fibers<<
Do polymer fibers cause halos, corona, irridensence, or sundogs?
F.K.
Well if they are the super secret NWO/DARPA/USAF/UN/Illuminati ones made by freemason Reptoids at the city underneath the Denver airport, they will do it all and also cut thru aluminum cans then perfectly slice a tomato afterwards too.
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PHXPilot
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Mon Feb 24, 2003 4:59 am
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msu94: But can it then cut through my rusty nail? Or my water pipes? Or a frozen carrot?
Or be sprayed through vents in United Airlines flight 284 to Seattle?
Thats the true test. |
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