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The Military Lies





Joined: 10 Jan 2001
Posts: 90
PostWed Jan 24, 2001 1:15 pm  Reply with quote  

S.W,
Isn't it amazing how quickly his replies have been (whithin minutes) after each of your posts, but when you ask him a question that tests his credibility of being a "commercial pilot", he takes a sudden (but expected) hiatus? Probably had to go do some aviation research. Oh well, he'll get back to you when he gets the proper info to respond to your questions with. BTW..... I thought your usage of the name "Nimrod" was actually far too kind.
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nodebbunker





Joined: 01 Nov 2000
Posts: 200
Location: Indiana USA
PostWed Jan 24, 2001 2:54 pm  Reply with quote  

Phil, if you care to e-mail me at CDEBGO@zipmax.com, I will be happy to snail mail color print-outs to you for what I state. There is no SUA (Special Use Airways) indicated in your area on FE but others everywhere else are, so maybe you need to inquire more about that. I watched your area this morning from 6:52 to 7:29, your time and counted as well as documented 6 NWA flights to Minnesota fly over your area. That would be about one every 5 minuts. Also, you have some low altitude local flights.

As for anyone else who refutes what I say, spend a few bucks and subscribe to FE. It is well worth it. If you desire to discover the truth, that is. I refuse to respond to smart-asses who suddenly appear who haven't taken the time to read back into these boards.

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just a housewife from Indiana

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marcinko





Joined: 09 Jan 2001
Posts: 31
Location: orlando, fl, usa
PostWed Jan 24, 2001 6:57 pm  Reply with quote  

hey M.L.

i thought i told you to go to bed. i stopped posting, son, because it was 2:00am and my my wife told me to come to bed. but i guess you wouldnt know about that sortof thing.

speaing wind,
the 757/767 has 6 "tubes". 2 EFIS tubes for each pilot and 2 EICAS tubes in the middle which stands for engine indication and crew alerting system. the newer 767-400's have a new cockpit similar in layout to the 777's and 747-400's.

as far as altitude separation, i assume you were referring to my comments about being 1000 ft below a Virgin 747 for a lengthy period of time. you are correct, under normal rules you would not be separated by 1000 ft with traffic going the same direction. but a couple of years ago they began new separation rules on the north atlantic tracks because of the ever increasing traffic on these tracks. now under RVSM rules you can be as little as 1000 ft above or below another aircraft as long as the aircraft have been RVSM approved.

d.m.
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speakingwind





Joined: 22 Jan 2001
Posts: 22
PostWed Jan 24, 2001 7:08 pm  Reply with quote  

Ok! I'm sold!!!!!

I was going to ask if you use a side stick or yoke, and other sech smartass questions but I believe you're a 757/767 pilot!

Sorry for being a smartass!

It's late over here now that the subject comes up, past my bedtime!
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marcinko





Joined: 09 Jan 2001
Posts: 31
Location: orlando, fl, usa
PostWed Jan 24, 2001 7:16 pm  Reply with quote  

speaking wind,

i have no desire to fly a side-stick aircraft (read, airbus or scarebus). i prefer a standard yoke.something about having a big pole between your legs.

come on. someone has to get me on that one.

d.m.
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speakingwind





Joined: 22 Jan 2001
Posts: 22
PostWed Jan 24, 2001 7:22 pm  Reply with quote  

Yeah, nothin like a big pole between the legs! I quite agree.

I'm sure Mz debunker even agrees with me on that one! (although with an attitude like that she's probably never had the experience)

Woaah, probably shouldn'ta gone there!
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Thermit





Joined: 08 Jul 2000
Posts: 3136
Location: Texas
PostWed Jan 24, 2001 7:28 pm  Reply with quote  

Okay...enough of the low blows.

I'll always be grateful to noDeb for challenging me to try Flight Explorer. I had no idea how much I'd be able to learn with the tool.
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mark sky





Joined: 14 Oct 2000
Posts: 3616
Location: SW coast of Oregon
PostThu Jan 25, 2001 2:15 am  Reply with quote  

Chickie Deb~ "no deb bunker"
allow me to change the subject here~jeeze!

Excuse me for dropping the ball december 28th
You will find a couple of messages for you over at the old watering hole
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nodebbunker





Joined: 01 Nov 2000
Posts: 200
Location: Indiana USA
PostThu Jan 25, 2001 6:55 am  Reply with quote  

That's OK, Thermit, let him have at it - he's a real credit to his cause and personal credibility. 2/20/dh

Mark, I've had a tough day and this evening was even worse, so I'll tackle that Thurs., if you don't mind. CD

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Thermit





Joined: 08 Jul 2000
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Location: Texas
PostTue Mar 06, 2001 11:48 pm  Reply with quote  




Although, I personally feel that the trails shown above are Chemtrails, the reason for the "woven" effect, is likely due to wake vortices. Such a vortex is visible in the following photo:





This effect can twist contrails and Chemtrails, giving the false appearance that the plane might have been performing barrel rolls.

This photo shows a NASA test using smoke generators.




http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/B-727/HTML/ECN-3831.html

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roman





Joined: 20 Sep 2000
Posts: 407
Location: Marietta Ohio USA
PostWed Mar 07, 2001 2:20 am  Reply with quote  

Looking at the above picture of the 727 .I can't help but wonder what sort of plumbing was stashed in the cargo bay of that plane.What size tank,and what was used for this test,and what it contained. Water ? Jet fuel? .I also noticed that the engines are not leaving any sort of vapor trail .In 1974 no less. Good picture Thermit.. Roman
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defender





Joined: 27 Oct 2000
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Location: Level 64
PostWed Mar 07, 2001 2:34 am  Reply with quote  


That 727 photo may be the 'contrail powder generator' in action! This photo alone should eliminate a large contingent of Con-trail 'believers'.

(I keep forgetting we don't have to deal with those folks anymore, must be getting my boards mixed up?)

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Thermit





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Location: Texas
PostWed Mar 07, 2001 3:32 am  Reply with quote  

According to the NASA site:

quote:

Smoke from “smoke generators” installed on the tips of the aircraft’s wings is shown being entrained by the wing tip vortices.

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Moose





Joined: 02 Jan 2001
Posts: 24
Location: Fargo, ND
PostFri Mar 09, 2001 2:10 pm  Reply with quote  

Very articulate report from college student, Fargo, ND, 1999. http://www.msatech.com/nuforc/webreports/S11395.html
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