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All of that 'research' done in the Antarctic reminds me of all the years 'we', or I should say NASA have been using the shuttle for 'research'. What have they really been doing all this time, aside from what they have been telling us?
I've often wondered that myself about why we wouldn't have gone back to the moon. The shuttle would be like taking a limousine compared to Apollo 11's alleged trip in 1969!
Seems we'd already have been back, but maybe the shuttle isn't necessary anymore, just window dressing to show us where all of our money is supposed to be going?
Also interesting why Hubble has never been pointed at the Moon or Mars, or at least not to our knowledge. I heard something about that a few months ago, about some excuse why they couldn't, about how the moon is too close, then I heard (maybe on Rense?) that they've reversed that? or it's been exposed as a lie.
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Fri Apr 27, 2001 4:42 pm
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Defender: I agree.
Shuttle is "gosh, here is all your billions!"
Hubble was very much exposed as a lie, as NASA and JPL were flooded with emails and letters from scientists all over the world who knew intimately of that telescopes capability and then here comes the US government saying it's too close or too bright to look at?????
No one bought.
But no one also reasked the question...or if they did, it never made out here to the rest of us.
If hubble looked closely like the microscope it is, there would be a paradigm shift overnight = and without agency spin-doctoring or control.
It is in many ways like the Antartic region...why...after all this time and technology, we have no more real data on it than we had back in 1950?
As far as the story goes -whether it is real or simply portions or a total misdirection, I haven't even bothered to pay attention. Because the real story is being ignored.
Like with the China plane...why bother...everyone knows that plane WAS NOT forced down. Everyone knows it was a tech transfer. Anything they say about it is manure for the masses.
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Fri Apr 27, 2001 4:52 pm
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Re: NASA and the moon. What I think is that there is 2 space programs, 3 if you count the military. One is the pap that NASA foists off on us to make us feel good and more importantly, raise more of our tax dollars. The other is that we never have quit going to the moon. Look toward Diego Garcia, the island off of the African coast.
Started as what was supposed to be a resupply base for the region, I have never seen it mentioned in any article or story about any of our military activities in the region. Somalia, Kuwait, Iraq, Iran, all come to mind.
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Fri Apr 27, 2001 6:49 pm
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LWR,
Yes, I've wondered about that too, like there could be more than the one launch site we're allowed to see. Like the James Bond movies, "Diamonds are Forever" showed a scene of a mock moon landing on a sound stage, "Moonraker" made me think about the possibility of other shuttle launch sites. BTW, the movie version of Moonraker was nothing like Ian Flemings book. (most of them weren't I guess, but this one had nothing to do with the book).
Not that you can trust anything that comes out of Hollywood.... now that I think of it, the JB series of movies were made by English producers and studios, so maybe it's not 'Hollywood' as we know it? Maybe just more disinfo from different arm of TPTSuck? |
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Fri Apr 27, 2001 6:50 pm
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LWR,
Yes, I've wondered about that too, like there could be more than the one launch site we're allowed to see. Like the James Bond movies, "Diamonds are Forever" showed a scene of a mock moon landing on a sound stage, "Moonraker" made me think about the possibility of other shuttle launch sites. BTW, the movie version of Moonraker was nothing like Ian Flemings book. (most of them weren't I guess, but this one had nothing to do with the book).
Not that you can trust anything that comes out of Hollywood.... now that I think of it, the JB series of movies were made by English producers and studios, so maybe it's not 'Hollywood' as we know it? Maybe just more disinfo from different arm of TPTSuck? |
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Fri Apr 27, 2001 9:33 pm
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Thanks moonstar - i reprint one below:
The Thule Society inner circle had the following beliefs
Thule was a legendary island in the far north, similar to Atlantis, supposedly the center of a lost, high-level civilization. But not all secrets of that civilization had been completely wiped out. Those that remained were being guarded by ancient, highly intelligent beings (similar to the "Masters" of Theosophy or the White Brotherhood).
The truly initiated could establish contact with these beings by means of magic-mystical rituals.
The "Masters" or "Ancients" allegedly would be able to endow the initiated with supernatural strength and energy.
With the help of these energies the goal of the initiated was to create a race of Supermen of "Aryan" stock who would exterminate all "inferior" races.
On April 6, 1919, in Bavaria, left wing socialists and anarchists proclaimed the Bavarian Soviet Republic. The brains of the revolution were a group of writers who had little idea of administration. Life in munich grew chaotic. The counter-revolutionary forces, the whites, composed of various groups of decommissioned soldiers known as "Frei Corps", equipped and financed by the mysterious Thule Society, defeated the Bavarian Soviet within a matter of weeks.
Many other decommissioned soldiers waited out the turbulence in barracks, pfc Adolph Hitler among them. After the Bavarian Republic had been defeated by the Whites, in May, Hitler's superiors put him to work in the post revolution investigating commission. His indictments injected ruthless efficiency into the kangaroo courts as he fingered hundreds of noncommissioned officers and enlisted men who had sympathized with the communist and anarchists. He was subsequently sent to attend special anticommunist training courses and seminars at the University which were financed by the Reichswehr administration and by private donors from the Thule Society.
This led to an assignment in the intelligence division of the postwar German army, to infiltrate groups that could organize the working classes while the communists were weak. On a September evening, 1919, Hitler turned up in the Sternecker Beer Hall where members and friends of the budding German Workers Party had gathered. He quietly listened to the presentation by engineer Gottfried Feder, a Thule Society member, who talked about jewish control over lending capital. When one of the other group members called for Bavaria to break away from the rest of Germany, Hitler sprang into action. The astonished audience stood by while his highly aggressive remarks and compelling oratory swept through the room. After Hitler had finished his harangue, party chairman and founder, Anton Drexler, immediately asked him to a meeting of the party's steering committee held a few days later. He was asked to join the committee as its seventh member, responsible for advertising and propaganda.
Back in 1912, several German occultists with radical anti-semitic inclinations decided to form a "magic" lodge, which they named the Order of Teutons. the main founders were Theodor Fritsch, a publisher of an anti-semitic journal; Philipp Stauff, pupil of the racist Guido Von List, and Hermann Pohl, the order's chancellor. (Pohl would drop out three years later to found his own bizarre lodge, the Walvater Teutonic Order of the Holy Grail.) The Order of Teutons was organized along the lines of the Free Masons or the Rosicrucians, having differing degrees of initiation, only persons who could fully document that they were of pure "aryan" ancestry were allowed to join.
In 1915, Pohl was joined by Rudolf Blauer, who held a Turkish passport and practiced sufi meditation. He also dabbled in astrology and was an admirer of Lanz Von Liebenfels and Guido Von List, both pathologically anti-semitic. Blauer went by the name of Rudolf Freiherr Von Seboottendorf. He was very wealthy, although the origin of his fortune is unknown. He became the Grand Master of the Bavarian Order and he founded the Thule Society, with Pohl's approval, in 1918.
After the Bavarian communist revolution of 1918, the Thule Society became a center of the counterrevolutionary subculture. An espionage network and arms caches were organized. The Thule Club rooms became a nest of resistance to the revolution and the Munich Soviet Republic.
Journalist Karl Harrer was given the job of founding a political "worker circle". He realized that the workers would reject any program that was presented to them by a member of the conservative "privileged" class. Harrer knew that the mechanic Anton Drexler, who was working for the railroads, was a well-known anti-semite, chauvinist and proletarian. With drexler as nominal chairman, Harrer founded the German Workers Party in January 1919
The German Workers Party was only one of many associations founded and controlled by the Thule Society. The Thule was the "mother" to the German Socialist Party, led by Julius Streicher, and the right-wing radical Oberland Free Corps. It published the Munich observer, which later became the National Observer. Hitler became the most prominent personality in the party. He caused Harrer to drop out, and he pushed Drexler, the nominal chairman, to the sidelines. He filled key positions with his own friends from the Thule Society and the Army. During the summer of 1920, upon his suggestion, the party was renamed the National Socialist German Worker Party (NASDAP). The new name was intended to equally attract nationalists and proletarians.
To go along with the new name his mass movement also required a flag with a powerful symbol. Among many designs under consideration, Hitler picked the one suggested by Thule member Dr. Krohn: a red cloth with a white circle in the middle containing a black swastika.
Hitler wanted to turn the German Workers Party into a mass-conscious fighting party, but Harrer and Drexler were hesitant, due in part to their woeful financial situation. The Thule Society was not yet supplying very much money and no one seemed to know how to build up a mass party. Hitler arranged two public meetings in obscure beer halls, and he drafted leaflets and posters, but there was no real breakthrough.
All of this changed dramatically at the end of the 1919 when Hitler met Dietrich Eckart. Most biographers have underestimated the influence that Eckart exerted on Hitler. He was the wealthy publisher and editor-in-chief of an anti-semitic journal which he called In Plain German. Eckart was also a committed occultist and a master of magic. As an initiate, Eckart belonged to the inner circle of the Thule Society as well as other esoteric orders.
There can be no doubt that Eckart - who had been alerted to Hitler by other Thulists - trained Hitler in techniques of self confidence, self projection, persuasive oratory, body language and discursive sophistry. With these tools, in a short period of time he was able to move the obscure workers party from the club and beer hall atmosphere to a mass movement. The emotion charged lay speaker became an expert orator, capable of mesmerizing a vast audience.
One should not underestimate occultism's influence on Hitler. His subsequent rejection of Free Masons and esoteric movements, of Theosophy, of Anthrosophy, does not necessarily mean otherwise. Occult circles have long been known as covers for espionage and influence peddling. Hitler's spy apparatus under Canaris and Heydrich were well aware of these conduits, particularly from the direction of Britain which had within its MI5 intelligence agency a department known as the Occult Bureau. That these potential sources of trouble were purged from Nazi life should not be taken to mean that Hitler and the Nazi secret societies were not influenced by mystical and occult writers such as Madame Blavatsky, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Guido Von List, Lanz Von Liebenfels, Rudolf Steiner, George Gurdjieff, Karl Haushofer and Theodor Fritsch. Although Hitler later denounced and ridiculed many of them, he did dedicate his book Mein Kampf to his teacher Dietrich Eckart.
A frequent visitor to Landsberg Prison where Hitler was writing Mein Kampf with the help of Rudolf Hess, was General Karl Haushofer, a university professor and director of the Munich Institute of Geopolitics. Haushofer, Hitler, and Hess had long conversations together. Hess also kept records of these conversations. Hitler's demands for German "Living Space" in the east at the expense of the Slavic nations were based on the geopolitical theories of the learned professor.
Haushofer was also inclined toward the esoteric. as military attache in Japan, he had studied Zen-Buddhism. He had also gone through initiations at the hands of Tibetan Lamas. He became Hitler's second "esoteric mentor", replacing Dietrich Eckart. In Berlin, Haushofer had founded the Luminous Lodge or the Vril Society. The lodge's objective was to explore the origins of the Aryan race and to perform exercises in concentration to awaken the forces of "Vril". Haushofer was a student of the Russian magician and metaphysician Gregor Ivanovich Gurdyev (George Gurdjieff).
Both Gurdjeiff and Haushofer maintained that they had contacts with secret Tibetan Lodges that possessed the secret of the "Superman". The lodge included Hitler, Alfred Rosenberg, Himmler, Goring, and Hitler's subsequent personal physician Dr. Morell. It is also known that Aleister Crowley and Gurdjieff sought contact with Hitler. Hitler's unusual powers of suggestion become more understandable if one keeps in mind that he had access to the "secret" psychological techniques of the esoteric lodges. Haushofer taught him the techniques of Gurdjieff which, in turn, were based on the teachings of the Sufis and the Tibetan Lamas- and familiarized him with the Zen teaching of the Japanese Society of the Green Dragon.
in the latter half of the previous century, intriguing hints about Tibetan secret teachings had been carried to the west by Helena Blavatsky, who claimed initiation at the hands of the Holy Lamas themselves. Blavatsky taught that her "Hidden Masters" and "Secret Chiefs" had their earthly residence in the Himalayan region. As soon as the Nazi movement had sufficient funds, it began to organize a number of expeditions to Tibet and these succeeded one another practically without interruption until 1943. One of the most tangible expressions of Nazi interest in Tibet was the party`s adoption of its deepest and most mystical of symbols-the swastika.
The swastika is one of mankind's oldest symbols, and apart from the cross and the circle, probably the most widely distributed. It is shown on pottery fragments from Greece dating back to the eighth century b.c. It was used in ancient Egypt, India and China. The Navaho indians of North America have a traditional swastika pattern. Arab-Islamic sorcerers used it. In more recent times, it was incorporated in the flags of certain baltic states.
The idea for the use of the swastika by the Nazis came from a dentist named Dr. Friedrich Krohn who was a member of the secret Germanen order. Krohn produced the design for the actual form in which the Nazis came to use the symbol, that is reversed, spinning in an anti-clockwise direction. As a solar symbol, the swastika is properly thought of as spinning, and the Buddhists have always believed the symbol attracted luck. The Sanskrit word "svastika" means good fortune and well being. According to Cabbalistic lore and occult theory, chaotic force can be evoked by revers- ing the symbol. And so the symbol appeared as the flag of Nazi Germany and the insignia of the Nazi party, an indication for those who had eyes to see, as to the occult nature of the Third Reich.
From "The Unknown Hitler" by Wulf Schwartzwaller, Berkeley Books, 1990
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Sat Apr 28, 2001 12:12 am
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"The Spear of Destiny" by Ravenscroft is another source for anyone who hasn't heard of it. "Raiders of the Lost Ark" was based on this in part. The Nazis/Thulians(?) were always in search of religious/occult objects, like the spear that allegedly pierced Christs side while he hung on the cross. Interesting stories and other sources on Nazi/Hitlers occult origins.
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Sat Apr 28, 2001 12:41 am
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I think that one of the biggest lies taught to us over the years is that Nazi Germany was defeated when in actuality they not only won the war but are effectively running the world right now!
NSAsucks major data dump makes it pretty clear and there is a lot of information out there to corroborate all of it.
Desert Flower: I too have found that all the trails I follow these days seem to lead to aliens, and not cuddly E.T. types either. I was seeing the Reptilian connection so many times that I had to start reading about it and at this point I am about 75% convinced that this is the reality behind what is going on (including chemtrails) and that there are more powerful forces and beings behind that issue as well.
Is anyone interested in starting a thread to discuss these things? I remember that Prism11 on the "other" board was trying to alert us and was recommending that everyone read the Cassiopeans site. I was reading it before and since. Lots of material there and they do talk about chemtrails and Antarctica.
Thank you NSA sucks for all your information. It's good to have it all and to know that some people understand that the hot and cold running fascists are a reality. |
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Sat Apr 28, 2001 1:37 am
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moved this post over to Who are TPTB
It's never too late!?
Monarch Project & The Franklin Savings & Loan Scandal
The horrendous Monarch Project "refers to young people in America
who were victims of mind control experiments
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Mon Apr 30, 2001 10:09 am
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(just to keep you interested. Some of it is spotty - most is accurate - notice Streiber in there?)
WAR OF THE CAVERNS, by Tom Lucas
If the importance of the caverns beneath Siloam Springs and Eureka Springs [CIA-Masonic-Mafia 'underground' drug capital in Arkansas...] is a bane of contention between the picturesque little towns, Hot Springs, Arkansas, would be the next logical choice for investigation. During the 1930 Prohibition days, it was frequently reported in a Chicago newspaper that Chicago gangsters traveled often to Hot Springs to go to the horse races and soak in the hot baths. It seems reasonable, based on what we think we know now, that during the lulls in recreational activities in Hot Springs, leaders of the various gangs made discrete trips to the caverns beneath the city to brag about their latest exploits and to bring offerings of gold.
"To get a rough idea of what a cavern map of the U.S. would look like, simply pull out a road map of any state and identify all of the dense population centers, be they cities or hamlets. Where there is a city on the surface of the earth, there is a city in the caverns below that city...'as above, so below.' The co-relation breaks down as the size of the population centers dwindle...
"In the early 1930's, the caverns of Hot Springs must have been the U.S. capital, or at least a regional area, for the marketers of illegal alcohol.
"Cavern communities close to the surface are probably not completely self-supporting and require huge injections of funds to keep them going. These facilities lack the super-technologies of those caverns much deeper in the earth, and require much gold for trading with people within cities deeper in the Earth's crust. An ounce of gold in the underworld has as much or greater buying power than on the surface because the deeper super-productive cities need all the gold they can get and are willing to make generous trades for gold. This relieves the near-surface caverns of the burden of secreting goods and services from the surface world which would be a real security headache.
"Cities beneath cities, and some hamlets, require injections of wealth from the surface that doesn't leave paper trails to their caverns. Each cavern has to develop and specialize in some particular money-making scam, or any number of sting embezzlements to bring in a constant stream of traceless cash and gold.
"One cavern, for example, specializes in addictive drug sales, another bank embezzlement and fraud, another stock market riggings, government money transfer schemes, along with other more esoteric and less known ways of generating profit that must eventually be converted to cash and gold that cannot be traced. The expression underground cash economy is probably a semi-cryptic phrase that refers directly to installations beneath cities notorious for dealing only in cash and gold.
(Note: The notorious 'inner world' researcher and writer Richard Shaver did state that organized crime syndicates were one of the larger elements operating within the secret cavern systems, and that the term "the underworld" -- as a description of organized crime networks -- is more than just a coincidence. - Branton)
"When America was young, developing underground caverns beneath American cities having a flavor of anarchy similar to communities developing on the surface, did not at the time have formal relations with each other... not even "wild-west" sub-surface communities in the American West... "as above, so below."
"Over a period of time, cavern communities within regional areas geographically near each other found they had to get along with each other in a non-competitive manner, to encourage synergetic relationships which tended to raise the standard of living of each of the involved cavern communities. Each cavern specialized in an area of crime-monopoly expertise that wasn't in competition with neighboring caverns. If a regional area demonstrated it could keep surface dwellers in line -- e.g., keep them thinking the 'right' thoughts, stifling all real creativity, via the under-ground's crack people-management teams and organizations on the surface in the form of police departments, public schools, controlling secret societies, quack medical fraternities, polished propagandists and moralists, a sufficiently initiated CLERGY, etcetera -- then this regional area is allowed to incorporate into a semi-autonomous fiefdom that would eventually reflect on the surface as "a county" in the U.S... "As above, so below."
"These underground fiefdoms in the form of counties then combine to form states; states combine to form the nation... Today, 33 degree Masonry and the higher degree [33+] is getting ready for the final conflict between Rightwing Caverns [RWC] and Leftwing Caverns [LWC]. This [Hegalian/Machievellian] conflict will not be so much a battle between countries on the surface as it will a war of the caverns. Surface 33+ is clandestinely developing relatively unknown caverns beneath smaller communities which 33+ degree confidently feels will not be identified and destroyed once the conflict begins. Surface 32 degree and below are to be left on the surface to die with the rest of the 'profane'. The deal is, knowing a real holocaust is coming, 33+ is planning to abandon the old underground installations and flee to the new when the time arrives. It appears that both left and right wing factions will be responsible responsible for the sacrifice of huge segments of the Earth's above and below ground populations.
(Take note of the fact that the Jesuit-created Scottish Rite and and the black gnostic serpent cult of the Illuminati of Bavaria -- which both collaborated in the establishing of the "33 degree" system of Masonry -- have their ultimate headquarters in ROME and BAVARIA, those two regions which made up the duel headquarters of the [UN]HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE. These were the same forces which brought about the Macheivellian conflicts between 'right' and 'left' wing factions in World War I and World War II. Now they are apparently planning for a third Machievellian global conflict -- this one being nuclear in scope -- ABOVE and BELOW the surface of the planet, a conflict which they intend to 'ride-out' in their secret underground strongholds and eventually emerge to control the upper AND lower 'worlds'. It would be an elaborate "Helter Skelter" scenario -- Helter Skelter being the term that mass-murderer Charles Manson used for his plan to incite a race war which he and his 'family' would ride-out in an underground cavern in the Mojave desert which he referred to as "the Pit". Once the holocaust had ended and most of those on the surface were dead, Manson and his followers believed that they would emerge from their hiding place and rule the world. If such a plan seems to be the product of an insane mind, then it would appear that Charles Manson was not alone in his insanity, which is a scary thought. Another thought -- just what part do the alien Greys play in the 33+ Masons' plans? Incidentally, there are reportedly several levels above and beyond the 33rd degree, mainly those which interface with and collaborate with 'alien' fraternities or secret societies below and beyond planet earth. For instance the 'Alternative 2' and 'Alternative 3' forces who, in collaboration with the Greys, have exploited and oppressed numerous 'slave worlds' throughout this sector of the galaxy -- according to one couple who in UNICUS magazine told of how they defected from the Alternative-3 agenda after a 'Federation' agent informed them of these facts. The Nazi 'Neu Schwabians' are deeply involved in these joint humanoid-reptiloid interstellar atrocities against the peaceful inhabitants of other colonial worlds. The atrocities of World War II were just the beginning, since the Nazi 'holocaust', if we are to believe some 'contactees', has spread beyond the surface of this planet, both within and without. As for the 33-plus levels of Masonry, according to former Dulce base security officer Thomas E. Castello -- who possessed one of the highest security clearances at the base, Ultra-7 -- there were several security clearances above his own that the 'higher initiates' held... such as UMBRA, STELLAR, and UMS - UNIVERSAL MILITARY SERVICE. In his writings Whitley Streiber tells of being taken during an abduction experience to another desert-like planet with ancient ruins and tall 'Grey' type beings. He encountered American military personnel on this interplanetary excursion who were dressed in military kackies, carried camcorders and other unusual equipment. These military personnel would probably have possessed a security clearance similar to one of those mentioned above. According to Castello, President Harry Truman was a 'High Archon' in the interplanetary lodges and one of the first U.S. Presidents to establish a secret American treaty with Greys from Alpha Draconis and Epsilon Bootes as well as with the subterranean Ashtar forces. George Bush was apparently at one point a 42nd degree Mason, according to another source who I believe to be reliable. He would have to had been considerably high in the degrees if he were involved with MJ-12 as is claimed. So the 33+ degrees of Masonry are the alien-interactive levels, and 'we' are meant to believe that there are ONLY 33 degrees and no more. The Scottish Rite's infiltration of the Masonic lodges challenged the domination of the more Judeo-Christian YORK Rite. The Scottish Rite can be traced back to the Jesuit college of Clermont in France, and at the core it advocates a global government and the destruction of all national boundaries, sovereignties and cultures; the dissolution of all traditional "family" structures making all children the wards of the world state; and the destruction of the idea that man has a soul -- or rather that humans are merely evolved animals having no spiritual nature and therefore no need for God. In other words a homogenized collective society which does not tolerate individual expression but instead enforces absolute conformity to the controlling establishment, kind of like the system which the Greys themselves live under. According to former 33rd degree Mason James Shaw, author of "THE DEADLY DECEPTION", the U.S. headquarters of the Scottish Rite is located in the "House of the Temple" in Washington D.C. and, according to some, it sits directly over an antediluvian system of 'Atlantean' tunnels and ancient underground chambers called the 'NOD' complex, which serves as a major NSA-Sirian-Grey center of collaboration. Some believe that the antediluvian or Atlantean alchemists or sorcerer-scientists had begun experimenting with elemental forces and that their experiments had gone out of control and created a temporal rift in the space-time continuum in the so-called 'Bermuda Triangle' region, opening up a hole between dimensions and leaving 'electromagnetic fallout' which has had adverse effects to this day. This was just prior to the global deluge which destroyed their island-continent. This 'House of the Temple' is, according to Jim Shaw, filled with murals, statues, and carvings of serpents. In other words it is a SERPENT cult. This pagan temple actually sits at the northern point of the PENTAGRAM like street layout of downtown D.C., which is not surprising when we consider that much of the original construction of Washington D.C. was carried out by MASONS! After what was supposed to be the culmination of a lifetime of initiatory work, Shaw was excited about his 33rd degree initiation which was attended by two former U.S. presidents, a famous 'evangelist', and a Scandinavian king. He was anticipating a type of spiritual illumination, however the dead, dry ritual and the 'tomb like' atmosphere of the temple itself was far from inspiring. Following the disillusioning experience he left the building, looked at the entrance above which was written "THE SCOTTISH RITE OF FREEMASONRY", and, realizing that it was all a LIE he sadly said to himself, "It isn't Scottish, it isn't Rite, and it isn't Free!" He left the lodge and never returned, and from that day on became a Christian Evangelist and one of its most notorious critics. Some state that as part of the 33rd degree initiation one is challenged to blaspheme Christ, spitting on a cross or a Bible or something of the sort. If the initiate refuses to do so they are told "You have made the right decision", and remain forever in the 33rd degree. If they do commit the act of blasphemy however, they are told "You have made the right decision" and continue their ascension through the degrees beyond the 33rd. The lowest degrees are presumably 'Christian' and many share membership jointly in Masonry and Christian denominations. As one ascends higher, the Christian beliefs are slowly and almost imperceptibly subverted so by the time the 33rd degree is reached one has arrived on the verge of Luciferianism. Those who have been through the degrees must admit that what they are being taught now is almost diametrically opposed to what they were taught in the lowest degrees. This is the work of the Scottish Rite which infiltrated the Masonic Lodges for the purposes of using them as a framework for the establishment of their Godless New World Order. In Masonry the LODGE is god, 'The Grand Architect of the Universe', which is simply another name for the Lodge itself. - Branton).
"At the same time underground 33+ develops remote survival caverns -- an activity generally unknown to underground inhabitants, including 32-, they are also developing caverns without support communities which, above, could pinpoint their survival caverns for target purposes... Without support communities to obscure their activities, surface Masons are deprived of this advantage.
"When one moves to a cavern without a support community above, it is similar to a surface dweller moving from the city to the countryside. Unless there is access to needed goods and services available at alien facilities much deeper in the earth, each time the remote cavern dweller needs something from the store he has to travel to a cavern with a support community above to get what is wanted.
"While in the NAVY, I was told that only five men, who were sworn to secrecy, decided the targets for America's bombs; also that these five men were the only ones who know where the bombs were going! This means targeting information inside the ICBM's are sealed and not even technicians loading the programs know what is on them. Bombing instructions for nuclear bomber pilots are sealed. This means submarine captains do not know where their ICBM's are headed. All the captain does is tell the missile its location and the missile decides where to go. Apparently an almost unlimited number of possible target guidance programs are generated and placed in a library made available to these five men. To be installed in missiles appropriate for specific targets, all is sealed and safely locked away.
"I'm sure the method by which all this is done is complex and thought out in a way understood by none other than the five select men. I doubt the system has changed since my Navy days of years ago. The activities of these men and the targets selected are never audited. (Just as the secret agencies like MJ-12 are never audited since Congressional investigators are only allowed 'Top Secret' clearances -- whereas MJ-12 and similar agencies operate at 'Above Top Secret' levels and beyond. In fact the charter for the NSA, for instance, states that the NSA is exempt from all U.S. laws which do not specifically mention the NSA within the text. So here is a job for you Congressional legislators... MENTION the NSA in every new or old regulatory law that might be applicable! - Branton). The person who told me this said there is no way of ascertaining if these five men are even on our side! Though the faces of the men may change over the years, the system of security remains the same. These five men must all be MASONS, which means there is much room for mischief.
"300 U.S. citizens were made ready for the 1917 Russian Revolution. Taught the Russian language and leftwing socialist ideology, they were shipped off to Russia to form the first politburo. Plainly, this means that socialist Russia is a tool and puppet state of the United States (Or, more exactly the Masonic 'Banksters' operating within the U.S. -- as for instance the Rockefellers, who played a major role in grooming the agents of the Communist-Socialist revolution in Russia AND the agents of the National-Socialist revolution in Germany. Whether it is left-handed Socialism or right-handed Socialism -- Socialism either way you look at it is TOTALITARIANISM! - Branton). Any recent reforms in Russia will NOT change the fact that she is still taking orders from [the Bavarian-backed 33+ Jesuit-Masons in] the U.S. [U.N.]. Although the front men may change, leftwing socialists are very adept at making reforms that increase their power.
"All of which indicates that it is unlikely that the bulk of America's atomic arsenal is aimed at Russia, as claimed and, for the most part, it is unlikely that Russia's atomic arsenal is aimed at the United States. The only missiles targeted for the U.S. would be aimed at the underground installations of the most lethal of rightwing adversaries... After all, the effectiveness of our underground nuclear bomb-testing program is just that... a test showing just how efficiently each bomb design destroys underground caverns!...
"Summarizing, it appears that both Russian and American nuclear arsenals stand ready to fire in concert. But at what? The answer is at all of the caverns which, occupied by the enemy of World War II (namely, the NAZIS - Branton), are awaiting the time to deliver THEIR nuclear missiles from sanctuaries beneath the ANTARCTIC, and from cavern strongholds beneath SOUTH, CENTRAL and NORTH AMERICA.
(Note: The 33+ themselves are neither against the 'right' nor 'left' wing forces, but rather control the leadership of each, so as to set the two forces against each other in a Machievellian or Hegalian scenario -- with more than a little help from their reptiloid and grey alien advisors. This plan seems to have been traced back to the MASONIC 'Pontiff' Albert Pike [who called himself 'the vice-regent of Lucifer' on earth] and his JESUIT 'deputy' Guisseppi Mazzini. According to Des Griffin, Pike and Mazzini established the 22 Illuminati 'Palladium' lodges for the express purpose of creating the right-wing Nazi and left-wing Communist movements and to lay the foundation for three world wars which they hoped would wear-down the masses to the point where they would accept a New World Order dictatorship as the only peaceful alternative. From the alien perspective, the New World Order would offer easier control and massive population reduction at the same time. As I have suggested, we can also surmise that the 33+ Masons 'leading' the right wing factions and the 33+ Masons 'leading' the left wing factions are all working closely together along with their reptilian allies beneath and beyond this planet. When and if the final conflict breaks out, we can expect the high-ranking 'leaders' of both sides of the Machievellian conflict to leave the so-called left-wing Communist Socialists and the so-called right-wing National Socialists to their fate, with the hope and expectation that they will slaughter each other and eliminate all resistance when they -- the Roman-Bavarian 33+ Jesuit-Mason Banksters and their alien 'hosts' in Orion and Draconis as well as some collaborating factions from Sirius-B / Hale-Bopp, etc. -- emerge to take control of the planet. In reference to the Sirian collaborators, a major irony exists in the fact that the Sirius-B zealots connected with the Hale-Bopp complex -- who are so determined to stage a mass landing on earth -- may be largely motivated by the fact that several of their allied underground colonies on earth and in this system have been and are under attack by the Reptiloid-Grey collectivists. Apparently they believe that by supporting their secret-society allies here on earth -- who are in turn intent on establishing a New World Order -- they will be in a better position to defend themselves and their ancient bases and colonies here from the Draconians-Greys. Yet, they are in fact serving what they have been led to believe are "Ascended Masters" within the Hale-Bopp complex itself, unaware that their beloved "Ashtar" hierarchy has long since been infiltrated by Orionite Dracos and Greys. In a similar manner, the Orion-backed Jesuit Lodge had managed to infiltrate the Sirian backed Masonic Lodge on earth via the Jesuit Scottish Rite, and just as the Sirians have been duped into submitting to the agenda of the Orionites in Hale-Boop, the Masons have been duped into forming an alliince with the Jesuits in the form of the Bildeberg society. If the Masonic Lodge and our own Constitutional U.S. Government can be infiltrated by Draconian-Orionite interventionists, then are those from Sirius-B who live in an even more collectivist system any more exempt from the same threat? Maybe one day they, AND WE, will learn that the Draconians are playing for keeps and that there is NO level of deception to which they will NOT sink in order to get their way. Just like us, the Sirians and their Masonic representatives on earth have been so concerned about defending themselves from an 'enemy without', that they AND WE have ignored the infiltratration of the 'enemy within'. - Branton)
"This explains why the U.S. and Russia have such a large surplus of atomic bombs. Caverns tend to be nuclear proof, except for direct hits which mean that at least one bomb is needed per cavern, and perhaps several just in case the first one fails to make it. All those bombs going off will have a negative environmental impact on all life on the surface; but the 33+ plan to be safe and snug in their holes. -Branton)
"Both sides could fire all their arsenals at once; but this is unlikely to happen. World War II will be PROTRACTED [like a chess-game] and both sides will agree to a standard set of rules for war.
"As the war progresses and the world's standard of living drops, squabbles over remaining resources will become frequent, and pointed. States will fight states, counties will fight counties, towns will fight towns, all of which will reflect the political biases and inclinations of controlling caverns beneath.
"Did you know that only group organisms such as ant hills and termite colonies -- and masonic controlled men -- indulge in mass warfare? Nothing else in nature does.
"All group organisms, such as bee hives, use sex odors [via the queen bee] to induce conformity in the hive or colony. [Scottish Rite] Masonry is most similar to the termite colony in that both chew away at the foundations of civilization and neither can stand the light of day.
"Masonry may not use sex odors to induce conformity and absorption into the group organism but it does use mesmerizing, hypnotic rays that may have sexual content to it. Selfless devotion to service, faceless anonymity, slavish devotion to a noble ideal... for the good of the whole, work without compensation, profitless causes, these are the value-philosophical ideals of an and in an ant hill, a termite in a termite colony...and a mason in a masonic organism.
"Interesting is how cleverly encyclopedias talk about springs but never caverns, and that De Sota was more curious about caverns than springs. The tunnels I recently learned of that lead off from basement rooms in the old KNIGHTS OF PYTHIAS TEMPLE in Springfield, Missouri, which is in the heart of the Ozarks, gives pause for a lot of wonder and conjecture. Until recently, I thought only a few surface dwellers knew and had access to the Underworld, but it now appears to be common knowledge among those of a specific segment of the population... It's just that those who talk don't live long."
More of what the 'Aryan elite' plan for America and the world was revealed in a lecture given by the late Phil Schneider, who was murdered [strangled to death] by persons unknown shortly after giving this speech:
"I love the country I am living in, more than I love my life, but I would not be standing before you now, risking my life, if I did not believe it was so. The first part of this talk is going to concern deep underground military bases and the black budget. The Black Budget is a secretive budget that garners 25% of the gross national product of the United States. The Black Budget currently consumes $1.25 trillion per [2] years. At least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned with deep underground military bases. Presently,there are 129 deep underground military bases in the United States.
"They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early 1940's. Some of them were built even earlier than that. These bases are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-leviton trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Several books have been written about this activity. Al Bielek has my only copy of one of them. Richard Souder, a Ph.D architect, has risked his life by talking about this. He worked with a number of government agencies on deep underground military bases. In around where you live, in Idaho, there are 11 of them.
"The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. They all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. They have laser drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day. The Black Projects sidestep the authority of CONGRESS, which as we know is illegal. Right now, the New World Order is depending on these bases. If I had known at the time I was working on them that the NWO was involved, I would not have done it. I was LIED to rather extensively.
"Basically, as far as technology is concerned, for every calendar year that transpires, military technology increases about 44.5 years. This is why it is easy to understand that back in 1943 they were able to create, through the use of vacuum tube technology, a ship that could literally disappear from one place and appear in another place. My father, Otto Oscar Schneider, fought on both sides of the war. He was originally a U-boat captain, and was captured and repatriated in the United States. He was involved with different kinds of concerns, such as the A-bomb, the H-bomb and the Philadelphia Experiment. He invented a high-speed camera that took pictures of the first atomic (Hydrogen or H-Bomb - Branton) tests at Bikini Island on July 12, 1946. I have original photographs of that test, and the photos also show UFO's fleeing the bomb site at a high rate of speed. Bikini Island at the time was infested with them, especially under the water, and the natives had problems with their animals being mutilated. At that time, General McArthur felt that the next war would be with aliens from other worlds.
"Anyway, my father laid the groundwork with theoreticians about the Philadelphia experiment, as well as other experiments. What does that have to do with me? Nothing, other than the fact that he was my father. I don't agree with what he did on the other side, but I think he had a lot of guts in coming here. He was hated in Germany. There was a $1 million reward, payable in gold, to anyone who killed him. Obviously, they didn't succeed. Anyway, back to our topic -- deep underground bases.
"Back in 1954, under the Eisenhower administration, the 'federal' government decided to circumvent the Constitution of the United States and form a treaty with alien entities. It was called the 1954 Greada Treaty (Eisenhower administration -- established contact-landings at Holloman AFB, New Mexico; and Muroc-Edwards AFB, California in 1954. This was a year after the 'Greys' had established geosynchronous orbits around our planet within two 'planetoids' that had been engineered to serve as operational bases for later abduction, implantation, cattle mutilation, base construction, and infiltration operations. - Branton), which basically made the agreement that the aliens involved could take a few cows and test their implanting techniques on a few human beings, but that they had to give details about the people involved. Slowly, the aliens altered the bargain until they decided they wouldn't abide by it at all. Back in 1979, this was the reality, and the fire-fight at Dulce occurred quite by accident. I was involved in building an ADDITION to the deep underground military base at Dulce, which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. At that particular time, we had drilled four distinct holes in the desert, and we were going to link them together and blow out large sections at a time. My job was to go down the holes and check the rock samples, and recommend the explosive to deal with the particular rock. As I was headed down there, we found ourselves amidst a large cavern that was full of outer-space (or "inner-space"? - Branton) aliens, otherwise known as large Greys. I shot two of them. At that time, there were 30 people down there. About 40 more came down after this started, and all of them got killed. We had surprised a whole underground base of existing aliens. Later, we found out that they had been living in our planet for a long time... This could explain a lot of what is behind the theory of ancient astronauts.
(Note: This report seems to reveal a limited 'perspective' on the overall 'Dulce wars' based on the experience of one man. It appears however from a number of sources as if there was much more involved in the overall scenario than what Phil Schneider describes. For instance from Phil's description it would appear as if his team broke-in to the base 'accidentally'. It could have been that IN RESPONSE to the captured scientists mentioned by Thomas Edwin Castello and others, special military forces and agents intentionally attempted to break-in to the underground alien bases through a "back door" so-to-speak, yet Schneider may have not been aware of this part. Other reports would suggest that the conflict was more complex than this, involving more than one firefight. According to Thomas Castello, John Lear, Bill Cooper, and other sources, the "Dulce Wars" involved AT LEAST a hundred highly-trained special forces, including Delta force Black Berets, Air Force Blue Berets, Division 5 FBI, CIA, and Secret Service. Because of the "cover-up", special forces units with the necessary security clearances for this type of operation were rare. Needless to say, this "war" did not have the full backing of Congress and the American people, and this no doubt contributed to the loss of the 66 special force personnel who died in the conflict. Following the confrontation, the U.S. 'government' withdrew from all negotiations with the Greys and a rift began to develop within the Intelligence Community. It appears as if this split can be traced back to Kirtland AFB in New Mexico, which became divided over what to do about the Dulce situation and the aliens in general. Col. Edwards and the Wing Commander wanted to support Paul Bennewitz in a full-scale investigation of Dulce and they petitioned the White House, which at first agreed and told them to go ahead with the project... that is until forces 'elsewhere' in the intelligence community began to bring pressure against the White House and Kirtland AFB to drop the whole thing. Kirtland AFB Col. Richard Doty seems to have been torn between two intelligence agendas, explaining his seemingly schizophrenic reversals in policy regarding Dulce and related matters. Some segments of U.S. intelligence wanted to declare war on the Greys and develop SDI weapons that could be used against them in space and underground, whereas others -- apparently motivated by more sinister motives -- desired to continue negotiations. Two years following the Dulce wars, AQUARIUS and MAJI re-established negotiations with the Greys at Dulce for the purpose it would seem of gaining continued access to mind control technology for their New World Order agenda. - Branton)
"Anyway, I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that.
"I didn't get really interested in UFO technology until I started work at Area 51, north of Las Vegas. After about two years recuperating after the 1979 incident, I went back to work for Morrison and Knudson, EG&G and other companies. At Area 51, they were testing all kinds of peculiar spacecraft. How many people here are familiar with Bob Lazar's story? He was a physicist working at Area 51 trying to decipher the propulsion factor in some of these craft.
"Now, I am very worried about the activity of the federal government. They have lied to the public, stonewalled senators, and have refused to tell the truth in regard to alien matters. I can go on and on. I can tell you that I am rather disgruntled.
Recently, I knew someone who lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at Gunderson Steel Fabrication, where they make railroad cars. Now, I knew this fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a quiet type. He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me "they're building prisoner cars." He was nervous. Gunderson, he said, had a contract with the federal government to build 107,200 full length railroad cars, each with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11 sub-contractors in this giant project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over 2 billion dollars for the contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel outfits are involved. He showed me one of the cars in the rail yards in North Portland. He was right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143 times 11, you come up with about 15,000,000. This is probably the number of people who disagree with the federal government. No more can you vote any of these people out of office. Our present structure of government is 'technocracy', not democracy, and it is a form of feudalism.
(I would venture to say that it is more like a techno-monarchy, since several of the U.S. presidents since Truman have been placed in office with Rockefeller financial-media backing, suggesting that these same presidents were inclined to favor certain Rockefeller corporate agendas over the interests of the American people. The Techno-Monarchy would constitute those parts of the Military-Industrial Complex or M.I.C. that are largely influenced by Rockefeller and European Black Nobility interests. When the American Union was young, the Continental Congress was fearful that the roots of Monarchy might rise within the new Republic. There were critics who suggested that we should not even have a Chief Executive or a President for this very reason, however by majority vote they installed George Washington as the first U.S. President with the hopes that all those who came after him would follow his example of selfless devotion and patriotism. Unfortunatelly the Continental Congress was wrong, and had overestimated the integrity of those U.S. 'Presidents' who would come later. - Branton).
It [our present form of government] has nothing to do with the republic of the United States. These people are god-less, and have legislated out prayer in public schools. You can get fined up to $100,000 and two years in prison for praying in school. I believe we can do better. I also believe that the federal government is running the gambit of enslaving the people of the United States. I am not a very good speaker, but I'll keep shooting my mouth off until somebody puts a bullet in me, because it's worth it to talk to a group like this about these atrocities.
"There are other problems. I have some interesting 1993 figures. There are 29 prototype stealth aircraft presently. The budget from the U.S. Congress five-year plan for these is $245.6 million. You couldn't buy the spare parts for these black programs for that amount. So, we've been lied to. The black budget is roughly $1.3 trillion every two years. A trillion is a thousand billion. A trillion dollars weighs 11 tons. The U.S. Congress never sees the books involved with this clandestine pot of gold. Contractors of [these] programs: EG&G, Westinghouse, McDonnell Douglas, Morrison-Knudson, Wackenhut Security Systems, Boeing Aerospace, Lorimar Aerospace, Aerospacial in France, Mitsubishi Industries, Rider Trucks, Bechtel, *I.G. Farben*, plus a host of hundreds more. Is this what we are supposed to be living up to as freedom-loving people? I don't believe so.
"Still, 68% of the military budget is directly or indirectly affected by the black budget. Star Wars relies heavily upon stealth weaponry. By the way, none of the stealth program would have been available if we had not taken apart crashed alien disks. None of it. Some of you might ask what the "space shuttle" is "shuttling". Large ingots of special metals that are milled in space and cannot be produced on the surface of the earth. They need the near vacuum of outer space to produce them. We are not even being told anything close to the truth. I believe our government officials have SOLD us down the drain -- lock, stock and barrel. Up until several weeks ago, I was employed by the U.S. government with a Ryolite-38 clearance factor, one of the highest in the world. I believe the Star Wars program is there solely to act as a buffer to prevent alien attack -- it has nothing to do with the "cold war", which was only a toy to garner money from all the people -- for what? The whole lie was planned and executed for the last 75 years.
"Here's another piece of information for you folks. The Drug Enforcement Administration and the ATF rely on stealth tactical weaponry for as much as 40% of their operations budget. This in 1993, and the figures have gone up considerably since. The United Nations used American stealth aircraft for over 28% of its collective worldwide operations from 1990 to 1992, according to the Center for Strategic Studies and UN Report 3092.
"I don't perceive at this time that we have too much more than six months of life left in this country, at the present rate. We are the laughing stock of the world, because we are being hood-winked by so many evil people that are running this country. I think we can do better. I think the people over 45 are seriously worried about their future. I'm going to run some scary scenarios by you. The Contract With America. It contains the same terminology that Adolph Hitler used to subvert Germany in 1931. I believe we can do better. The Contract With America (or is it the "Contract ON America"? - Branton) is a last ditch effort by our federal government to tear away the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
"The black helicopters. There are over 64,000 black helicopters in the United States. For every hour that goes by, there is one being built. Is this the proper use of our money? What does the federal government need 64,000 tactical helicopters for, if they are not trying to enslave us. I doubt if the entire military needs 64,000 worldwide. I doubt if all the world needs that many. There are 157 F-117A stealth aircraft loaded with LIDAR and computer-enhanced imaging radar. They can see you walking from room to room when they fly over your house. They see objects in the house from the air with a variation limit of 1 inch to 30,000 miles. That's how accurate that is. Now, I worked in the federal government for a long time, and I know exactly how they handle their business..."
On Oct. 20, 1991, California researcher Michael Lindemann, founder of 'The 20/20 Group', gave a lecture before a large crowd of interested investigators. During the course of his lecture wherein he discussed the Military-Industrial Complex's underground bases outside of Lancaster, California, he made the following statements:
"...How many of you have seen the book 'BLANK CHECK'?... It is not a UFO book. I strongly recommend that you read the book 'BLANK CHECK' so that you can understand something about how these projects are funded without your say so, indeed WITHOUT THE SAY SO OF CONGRESS. Most citizens don't know for example that the National Security Act of 1947 made it illegal to ever say how much money is spent on the CIA. Indeed all of our tremendous alphabet soup collection of Intelligence Agencies. Whether your talking about the CIA, or the NRO, or the NSA or the DIA, etc., all of them are in the same category.
"You cannot say how much these things cost. All you can do if you want to find out is add-up the numbers on the Budget that aren't assigned to anything that actually means anything. There are these huge categories that have tens of billions of dollars in them that say nothing but 'Special Projects...' And every year the Congress dutifully passes this bloated budget that has some $300,000,000,000 or more with HUGE chunks of cash labeled like that: 'Special Projects,' 'Unusual Stuff.' -- Ten billion dollars. O.K., well where does the 'unusual stuff' money go? Well, it DOES go to 'unusual stuff', that's for sure, and one of the places it goes is that it goes into the underground bases. Indeed TIM said recently since the publication of his book [BLANK CHECK]... MORE Black Budget money goes into UNDERGROUND BASES than ANY OTHER kind of work.
"Now I don't believe that 35 billion, which is the approximate size of the black budget money that you can find by analyzing the budget, I don't think that comes CLOSE to the real figure because there is absolutely unequivocal evidence that a great deal of additional money was generated in other ways, such as the surreptitious running of guns and drugs. And one wonderful example of that is coming to light with the B.C.C.I. scandal which I hope you've heard of... a number of very high-ranking American officials are caught in the undertow of the BCCI tidal wave... Even though these guys are tying to pull 'fast ones' on an immense scale they are getting caught. These things don't always work. Indeed they are very, very vulnerable.
Indeed this whole 'end game' is very vulnerable and that's why they feel it requires such secrecy. The American people wouldn't stand for this stuff if they had the information, and that's the reason why we have to get the information out and take it seriously because it really is a matter of our money and our future that's being mortgaged here.
"But my friend who worked in the underground bases, who was doing sheet-rock was down on, he thinks, approximately the 30th level underground... these bases are perhaps 30-35 stories deep ['ground-scrapers']. As I say they are not just mine shafts, these are huge, giant facilities... many city blocks in circumference, able to house tens of thousands of people. One of them, the YANO Facility [we're told... by the county fire dept. director, the county fire dept. chief who had to go in there to look at a minor fire infraction] there's a 400-car parking lot on the 1st level of the YANO Facility, but cars never come in and out, those are the cars that they use INSIDE.
"O.K., so... a very interesting situation down there. Our guy was doing sheet-rock on the 30th floor, maybe the 30th floor, underground. He and his crew are working on a wall and right over here is an elevator door. The elevator door opens and, a kind of reflex action you look, and he saw three 'guys'. Two of them, human engineers that he's seen before. And between them a 'guy' that stood about 8 to 8 1/2 feet tall. Green skin, reptilian features, extra-long arms, wearing a lab coat, holding a clip-board...
"I tend to believe that story because, first of all because we have other stories like it, but more importantly because he walked off that job that very day. And he was getting paid a GREAT deal of money... If your basically a sheet-rock kind of guy, if you can do sheet-rock in a place like that then you get paid way more than standard sheet-rock wages, you can count on it.
"So, he walked off that job. His buddy on that same crew turned into an alcoholic shortly after. This is an extremely upsetting thing. You know, it wasn't like this alien jumped out and bit his head off or anything, it was just standing there for a few minutes, the doors closed. He has a feeling that that elevator was malfunctioning, otherwise he never would have seen that except by accident..."
Several people have referred to the underground as well as the operational 'connections' between the Dulce base in New Mexico and the Dreamland base in Nevada, connections that exist via Dougway, Utah and Page, Arizona. From Dreamland/Area 51/S-4 these underground systems reportedly extend towards the Edwards AFB/Lancaster/Tehachapi region where so many Military-Industrial-Aerospace operations are being carried out. If alien forces are intent on taking control of this planet, then it would be logical for them to target our most strategic military-industrial weapons research and development center. This might involve actual 'infiltration' of our military-industrial complexes and control of the line-of-command through mind control of specific and strategic personnel. In many cases patriotic Americans have become caught in the middle of this 'underground war' between loyal American military personnel and alien or alien-controlled 'personnel', as in the Dulce and the Groom wars themselves. The 'deeper' one descends into the underground 'alien empire' the greater the security and therefore the greater the 'control' will be.
Michael Riconosciuto, a former Wackenhut employee, claims that at Area 51 when one goes past a certain level of security they are either dead or disappear. Riconosciuto's father Marshal Riconosciuto was a Hitler-supporter and a close friend of Fred L. Crisman, who was involved with the Maurey Island Incident, was an agent of Military-Industrial Intelligence, and was in turn a close friend of Clay Shaw who Louisiana District Attorney James Garrison accused of being the CIA-Mafia go-between in the John F. Kennedy assassination. Garrison might have convicted Clay Shaw if not for the fact that Garrison's star witness David Ferry was killed a few days before he was to testify at Clay Shaw's trial. Anyway, Michael Riconosciuto told reporters that when he worked for Wackenhut at the Nevada Test Site before he was 'framed' on drug charges and put in a Federal Prison, he and several others tried to get damning evidence and documents out of the base on a helicopter, data apparently dealing with unconstitutional biogenetic activities, alien interaction in the underground facilities, etc. This helicopter was shot down before it could leave the base and the five people on board were killed. How many brave freedom-loving Americans have to DIE before we finally wake up from our apathetic skepticism and realize that WE ARE AT WAR!? Must we have a repeat of the Holocaust, and only after the fact hear such pitiful excuses like those that followed World War II?: "Yes, we heard the reports about the concentration camps, but they seemed too fantastic to be believed, so we did'nt bother bombing the ovens or the train tracks leading to the death camps..." Or maybe: "Underground bases and concentration camps that have undermined America, where Nazis and Aliens are working together in a joint effort to impose a global dictatorship on this planet? Come on, how were we supposed to have believed something so fantastic?..."
When all is said and done I will probably be seen as one of America's greatest hero's or one of the nations most notorious fools. To tell you the truth I could really care less. I would rather be seen as a fool rather than risk the lives of thousands or possibly millions of people who might turn out to be the potential victims of a cosmic conspiracy which I 'perceive' to be taking place, one which has specifically targeted America and her citizens. So then, at the risk of being a fool, I'll just go for broke and expose those specific areas where I 'perceive' the 'collaboration' maintains underground strongholds, based on what I have learned through years of research, personal experience, and interaction with others who have their own stories to tell about such an 'underground invasion' of North America...
Within the United States, the following joint operational bases -- operating under the control of Bavarian and Draconian intelligence agencies -- have been identified by various researchers, beginning with the major facility near Dulce, New Mexico. Other facilities of this nature include Page, Arizona; Dougway, Utah; Nevada Test Site; the Madigan facility near Ft. Lewis, Washington; Deep Springs, California; Mt. Lassen, California; Lancaster, California; Montauk, Long Island; the Denver International Airport; Granite Mountain - Little Cottonwood Canyon, Salt Lake City, Utah; Sleeping Ute Mountain on the Ute Reservation of SE Utah; and Creede, Colorado.
Other underground facilities for the New World Order itself are [apparently] occupied exclusively by lower-ranking levels of the collaboration which are nevertheless controlled by the 'serpent cult' of humanoid and reptiloid collaborators in the 'joint operational' facilities. Many of the 'closed' military bases in the United State possess underground facilities which are occupied by U.N. troops from various countries. Several Federal Buildings in many major cities also reportedly have underground facilities equipped with massive military weapons stashes, such as the Oklahoma City Federal Building which contains a 15 level base underneath, which was revealed during the initial local reports of the bombing of the federal building there -- although these references to the underground tunnels were censored by the time the story reached national and international audiences. Since Oklahoma City and Airport are intended to be a major FEMA / U.N. 'relocation' processing center, one has to ask just which 'side' had stashed the underground arsenals there, the American, or New World Order government? Also FEMA itself maintains SEVERAL underground facilities, many of them located beneath major airports throughout the United States... Could America be facing a four-fold invasion force in the future... via air, sea, land as well as an 'invasion' from the underground networks of the Military-Industrial Complex?
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NSA, Very interesting and informative!! I guess you don't get to sleep much either as I see you're still posting...Was glad to have your posting there to read. I have heard of some of that info before...creepy, whatta world. Blessings, j. |
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desert flower
Joined: 18 Apr 2001
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Mon Apr 30, 2001 11:56 am
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G****mm!!!!!Did I ever tell you that I love you??????? You're so cute.
So how do you propose that we fight this?
I mean thanks for the info and all but---hey--a bunch of raggle taggles like us have no f**king way if dealing with this on this level. Unless you have a secret way of accessing a paralell universe ---but frankly, I think one's enough. I think it's time to turn the tide. I mean do we really want this????? Well then let's stop playing the GAME. I mean it's really intriguing and all that, but as far as raising kids go it really SUCKS.Why don't we all ---those of us who don't want to feed into this reality get together and say hey--- this is not going to happen. Let's access some MAGIC---real MAGIC---you know ---like the place where we are all ONE---even those that we're fighting against. What is it that we really want? Just for "our" side to win? Or perhaps can we visualise real PEACE. And who is going to make the first move? And what's it going to take? Can we do it before---or after the Earth is destroyed? I mean HELLO
as far as I'm concerned we are running on GRACE---whose ever it is I don't know---but I thank them for it. I know I'm portraying a simplistic vision----but maybe it's time.
I mean do we want this planet or not? Because while we go on with this bull**t--She's not going to take it no more. And that includes all of us---whether humanoids, reptillians or whatever. More later........
Peace and Love
Desert Flower
[Edited 1 times, lastly by 3T3L1 on 04-30-2001] |
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nsasucks
Joined: 02 Jan 2001
Posts: 526
Location: Earth |
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Mon Apr 30, 2001 11:47 pm
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DF: not sure if it can be fought - they are already at game, set, and now...match. I think we are just witnesses, who are very aware of the real play going down - all of us. BTW, I don't know anything about your family (per your earlier question) but what you have said certainly makes you on of the aware. OTO really sucks doesn't it? A woman from that group came after me a few years ago trying to enlist me into their CA lodge - I told her I would never have anythign that OPENLY supports the dark forces and is in fact, controlled by them. I feel quite the dupe for having been in the dialectic opposites that were CONTROLLED BY THE SAME DARK FORCES. Sucks, no? |
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