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Delphi
Joined: 17 Mar 2001
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David, Been Blasted here all week in NW Louisiana also including today! I was at the SAC airbase today coming out of the commisary and the trails were right there, all nice and low and thick and "ugly" so I got my camera out of car and took some pics. All kinda "chembows", the whole 9 yards today! Got lots of "plane" pics when I got home and for some reason, they had all same heading but not "usual" planes on usual routes...all NNE, some 2 at a time, some low, some high but most almost totally noiseless...(some kinda "hush-kits") or what...was really hot and muggy here today so hard to think any of the lower ones were doing ice-crystals but what the heck, I don't know from airplanes. Just noticed and took lots of pics. White-out sky getting so common here, really boring and disgusting! Blessings, Joanne |
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cydoniaquest
Joined: 12 Aug 2000
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Sat Apr 14, 2001 10:05 am
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David,
Do you live near the ship yards, or the bridge in Benicia? If so, I know the area fairly well....I've stopped for a double western bacon cheeseburger (with extra sauce) there once or twice at that Carl’s Jr off the 680 on the hill.
You mention chronic fatigue, and I too have some days like that. Seems there is an epidemic of this among Americans nowadays (I'm not sure if the same phenomenon is occurring in other countries). In my case I just attributed it to drinking lots of coffee and a terrible diet, but realizing my mortality, and that I can't keep on eating that pizza and beer for breakfast anymore with those hamburger chasers like in the college years, I've lately, converted myself into a bit of a health nut. I also try to keep the coffee drinking to a minimum, if at all (I know caffeine consumption is the favorite drug of choice for most Americans...I still miss it  I've tried to jog every other day and work out on the days that I don't jog, and I’ve cut the fat and carbohydrates in my diet to a minimum....yet still, I get those times in the day when it feels like someone tied 100 pound weights to my eyelids! Maybe chemtrails can be attributed to having this effect to some degree, I don’t know. I do know that coffee really is a terrible poison that has the effect of making you feel run down when the caffeine wears off, and then after awhile, you drink it just to feel normal. Even now I wonder if the thing preventing me from walking into a Starbuck’s is the will power or the 3 dollar price tag.
And Delphie, you little minx you? Thanks for making a truce. I haven't read the other board yet...because I've been working some major hours this week. But why do you think a truce is necessary? I didn't realize we wuz a fuedin.....I just thought you enjoyed making me all sad and weepy since I like Rush and GW, subscribe to Eastern mysticism and philosophy...and am prone to OBEs.
(weird combination of qualities in a person, now that I think about it myself.....heck....I wouldn’t like me either).
PS. I think I was thinking about RTW who said she lives in Benicia...
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Sat Apr 14, 2001 7:04 pm
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It's not that people don't like you Cy, they just don't know how to take you at times. I've always thought your posts were interesting to say the least. Most people haven't experienced the kinds of things you have (such as OBEs) so they don't know how to respond? Just like most people haven't witnessed a chemtrail morph into a cirrus cloud, so they turn their back and don't want to listen. |
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cydoniaquest
Joined: 12 Aug 2000
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Sat Apr 14, 2001 11:46 pm
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Heck, I've been told that people don't know how to take me in person too Lulu, maybe it comes through in my writing! 
I think the problem comes in when we try to categorize each other and label each other as a certain "type" of individual. I've been guilty of doing this at times myself. Then when we say something that doesn't quite align lock-step with the going way of thinking, the response is often anger or rejection. We are social animals......and we like the idea of belonging to a group, even on message boards. When I expressed conservative ideologies and started talking to pilots who were skeptics over at the CTTUSA board for example, the first reaction was to delete me...when all I was doing was taking a slightly different approach to the subject of chemtrails, and attempting to prove them by engaging the skeptics in polite conversation. (Polite conversation did not work with the de-bunkers who originally populated this board however). The scientific approach over-all did not fit the normal modus operandi, hence my deletion at Chemtrail Tracking USA. I think differently than most, not necessarily better, but differently....(that’s why I was voted “least likely to be brain washed” in the highschool yearbook).
Delphi for instance, believes we disagree “passionately” about chemtrails....when in fact, the only major difference I can see is that I do not believe that their primary purpose is to make people sick. I haven't seen enough convincing evidence for this possibility, and a direct cause and effect relationship. William Thomas (the man who broke the chemtrail story) agrees with me. If there is sickness associated with chemtrails, I think it is probably a secondary side effect, not the primary purpose. Yet how I could be labeled a disinformation agent, and still be agreeing with Thomas.....is beyond me.
Can you blame me for finding the whole “agent” thing kinda humorous.
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Delphi
Joined: 17 Mar 2001
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Location: S. Bossier, Louisiana |
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Sun Apr 15, 2001 4:48 am
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Cy, You may be right...were are all still researching at this point and no one person has a difnative answer yet...it's like the UFO phenomena....anecdotal evidence and yet some physical evidence but no one to "go with it" as what scientist wants his name associated with UFO's? There are a few but not enough. As for OBE's, I was messin with ya. I been doin em since I was a kid, lucid dreaming, and more. I hope to write a book about it all. Have had "autoscopy" on 2 occassions, one profound "doppleganger incident where other folks saw me and I SAW me also in separate place, same time, physic experiences, and lots more...Now if ya wanna get mad with me again, you got more ammo. but we are passed that, yes? We DO disagree about the chems causing illness...so many folks are sick and feel like it is the chems, me included, (just got over 104 fever again)...that is why we are so concerned and looking for answers. If we happened to be right after-all, we worry about what that means for our kids and grandkids and that is what gives us the "passionate" desire to know once and for all what it all means, and if it is proven to us beyond doubt, that would be grat ...I'd rather be wrong about chems being harmful but if I'm right, I don't wanna be "dead wrong" later instead of trying to do Something. Blessings, Joanne |
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Delphi
Joined: 17 Mar 2001
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Location: S. Bossier, Louisiana |
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Sun Apr 15, 2001 4:53 am
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Oooops, Cy, just saw where I spelled psychic experiences physic ones...no, I don't mean laxatives or enemas but I can just hear what can get said about that mistake...don't wanna go there, no. As for the agent thing, I was the one fron Fort Meade...sooo, could go either way, just was funnin. J. |
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cydoniaquest
Joined: 12 Aug 2000
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Sun Apr 15, 2001 6:33 am
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I guess Delphi it's a woman's prerogative to change her mind. You could’ve fooled me that you wuz "just funnin".....but what do I know....I may figure out chemtrails and the true nature of the universe before I figure out women.
But then, now that I think about it, there are plenty of guys on these message boards who I haven't figured out either.
The whole human race and I don't get along too well sometimes. 
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Delphi
Joined: 17 Mar 2001
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Location: S. Bossier, Louisiana |
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Sun Apr 15, 2001 11:40 pm
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Hi Cy, Happy Easter! Yep, hubby agrees with ya...no figuring out women...we are a strange breed, you know...like that book, Men from Mars, Women from Venus. Actually, I'm CIA (Chemtrail Investigations Agent)! I really had to stop the meanies as I really don't like being "hateful" (even though hubby says I'm good at it!) What the deal was...remember the WW11 plane page? You felt I was a liar in reference to my comments and that lit my fire pretty good and for a long time...Whether we agree or disagree about what chems are, the "liar" handle kinda puts a "down-spin" on things. Hate and fear are 2 very negative and energy draining emotions so that kinda stuff is counter-productive in the long run...besides, there is always some one else who can do it, dosen't have to be moi. Blessings and be good today, don't overdo on the "goodies", be like me and only over-do on the "baddies", heh,heh...Blessings Joanne Actually, I did go for Army Intel...but went to Airforce for med tech...and so on. |
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cydoniaquest
Joined: 12 Aug 2000
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Mon Apr 16, 2001 7:46 am
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Delphi,
I never posted on any WWII page that I remember. Was it on this board? I only post on three boards...this one, Christy's and occasionally at Cliff's. It could have been someone imitating my handle or, maybe it was a misunderstanding....but I would never call you a liar for saying there were chemtrails during WWII or anything for that matter. I don't just call people liars, that's not my style. NSASucks can attest to that. Some of the stuff he comes up with is some of the most unbelievable yet, and I said he was sending up some red flags....but not once did I ever call him a liar. My method is usually to investigate something that is hard to believe first before I make an assessment as to it's validity. About the only person I have called a liar on these boards is Willy Clinton, and Albert Arnold Gore.....but that's old news.
Thanks for not being a meanie any more though. I will cautiously agree with your hubby....because I saw you call him a fart face.
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Delphi
Joined: 17 Mar 2001
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Location: S. Bossier, Louisiana |
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Mon Apr 16, 2001 11:38 pm
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Cy, It probably was some kinda mix-up or someone imitating you maybe, that kinda stuff does happen on sites sometimes...Nuf said about it either way...We are both too sweet to be nasty or grudgeful anyway. The WW11 Plane page showed trails in pics, where-ever I saw them but they seemed "fake" to me, the actual disagreement was about low-level chemplane flying over my pad. I am also a very good artist and have good deepth perception and distance judgement and such and if I mention an altitude, you can take it to the bank...lived on enough military bases right next to planes and choppers and very familiar with them...Anyway, no harm done any ole way...Yep, hubby loves Texas style chili, hence the "fart" handle, and I suffer from "brain farts" sometimes...I hope Thermitt won't feel like I'm a cussin, just funnin...You know me, just a barrel o" fun...well, sometimes. Blessings, Joanne P.S First clear, blue sky day we've had here for days, may take my "dirt-bike" out for a spell (3 wheeler) and enjoy the woods. J. |
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