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ChemCaptain
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
Shatty, go to a f-ing shrink.
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:02 am
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Still wondering what you neo-cons have against native born Americans.
As to the other propaganda you spouted:
quote:
Originally posted by Fastwalker:
And get this straight...Hitler's Germany was a form of a communist dictatorship, even though Hitler had the pretense of uniting people against a communist uprising. He was the leader of the national socialist (NAZI) party, another name for communism. Socialist/communist agendas are almost identical
the only thing 'straight' about you is your unwavering loyalty to your party propagandists.
>Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named "National Socialist."
But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production.
In Nazi Germany, private capitalist individuals owned the means of production, and they in turn were frequently controlled by the Nazi party and state.
Hitler's other political beliefs place him almost always on the far right. He advocated racism over racial tolerance,
merit over equality,
competition over cooperation,
power politics and militarism over pacifism,
dictatorship over democracy,
capitalism over Marxism,
nationalism over internationalism, exclusiveness over inclusiveness,
'common sense' over theory or science,
pragmatism over principle,
and even held friendly relations with the Church, even though he was an atheist.
more... http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm
Again,
pulling FW's chain.
Predicted:
Again -flush forth conservative mantras instead of actual ideas and opinions.
It's much harder for us Liberals.
We think for ourselves instead of just parroting propaganda like you neo-cons do.
No jealously of your Goebbels/Rush,
who tells you what to think and say.
But still wondering:
What do you neo-cons have against native born Americans?
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Fastwalker
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:15 am
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Like you say, Seek and CC, I don't need to point out the obvious, LOL...Shat's elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. He’s a fry short of a happy meal, so to speak.
Try convincing people that Arnold S. is weak! HA HA HA....now that's a good one. Yeah those aren't real muscles. He didn't lift any weights to get that way. Winning the Mr. Universe contest over, Ferrigno (the original Hulk)..well that didn't take any work or dicipline at all! Hell, just pop a few steroids and we can all look like that! Muscles don't actually have any REAL strength. Those are just balloons.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that the world is all illusion Shathead. The rest of us must deal with reality. One reality is that I'm going to have to pay damn near 800 dollars to renew my license fee here in California, thanks to Gray out Davis. Those who own new cars are going to be paying even more. What do you think this does to new car sales, and the economy Shathead?
Leftists like Shatty will never get the concept of reality. This is one of the fundamental aspects of insanity… Like I said, Shatoga continues to illustrate my point better than I ever could with my own words. Modern liberalism is a mental disorder. My sincere thanks go out to the $#@#!  |
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Fastwalker
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:32 am
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quote:
But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production.
Let's look at reality Shat. Name for me one truly socialist or communist country where workers control and own the means of production. Do the people in Cuba own and control the means of production? What about China? What about Russia? What about N. Korea?
Socialism always leads to communism, because human nature does not lend itself to socialism. Socialism requires an enforcing party, at which point it becomes communism. The communist party is elite, in that it stands outside the rules imposed on the people in order to enforce those rules…..rules which are designed and created by the communist party or dictator, not by representatives of the people. True socialist governments do not really exist for long in this world. They either become a capitalist hybrid type of multi-party government or they break down into a communist party or dictatorship type of government. The original settlers (Pilgrims) to this country tried socialism.....and it quickly failed miserably. They invented capitalism to insure their survival.
When we look at Nazi Germany, we really don't see a true capitalist system. We see a dictatorship where one party actually governs and controls the means of production of the entire country. Everything was for Hitler, his ambitions, and the good of the state. Hitler may have had what could be considered "conservative" views, but the reality was that his Nazi government was controlled by a group of elites, who enforced the dictates of one individual, regardless of the will of the people. This is truly a communist dictatorship very similar to what we have in China, except that one individual controlled everything through brutal oppression of any opponents in the case of Nazi Germany.
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theseeker
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:35 am
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What do you neo-cons have against native born Americans?
I don't understand the question...
the term "native born Americans" is rather broad....
and to add a visit to bob hartly wouldn't hurt you $#@#!...your waaay to deep into it...
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:51 am
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Proven both right and correct yet again:
Again,
pulling FW's chain.
Predicted:
Again -flush forth conservative mantras instead of actual ideas and opinions.
It's much harder for us Liberals.
We think for ourselves instead of just parroting propaganda like you neo-cons do.
No jealously of your Goebbels/Rush,
who tells you what to think and say.
But still wondering:
What do you neo-cons have against native born Americans?
As neo-cons refuse to give an honest answer to an honest question..
and instead;
spout propaganda-insults instead of giving an honest answer to an honest question:
What do you neo-cons have against native born Americans?
Anyone stupid enough to believe steroid 'muscles' have strength is totally ignorant!
After steroid 'muscle'mass develops, weight training and exercise must be used to turn the fleshy bulk into actual muscle mass and strength.
Been there: 4 years varsity in HS, college NCAA and (after I went into Army) USA Olympic team via personal contacts
continued in 1976 and 1880 Olympics.
Personally seen dozens of athletes use steroids for bulk
and weight training and exercise to develop strength.
Again.
neo-cons posting ignorant nonsense not supported by facts.
Anyone who cares about truth will use search!
Neo-cons will ignore any truth posted
and refuse to visit any link
or to read any post in it's entirety.
http://www.muscleenhancers.com/ http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/1997/08aug/muscle.htm
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Fastwalker
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 8:03 am
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quote:
Anyone stupid enough to believe steroid 'muscles' have strength is totally ignorant!
After steroid 'muscle'mass develops, weight training and exercise must be used to turn the fleshy bulk into actual muscle mass and strength.
Uhhh...so you contradict yourself here. In other words, even if Arnold MIGHT have used steroids (and I don't know that for sure), you are saying he still needed to work out like crazy to turn the "fleshy bulk into into actual muscle mass and strength"...Sounds like a contradiction to me, ya dorkus.
Seeing what you want to see....Believing what you want to believe despite the reality. Classic hallmark of modern liberalism. Keep the illustrations coming $#@#!. This is fun!
Edited to add, anyone who doesn't believe Arnold worked out like crazy (not that anyone but $#@#! believes he didn't or that it even matters), see that classic movie "Pumping Iron". 
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theseeker
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 8:41 am
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I forgot...$#@#! said schwarzenegger never won any titles...mr. universe at age 20....13 others along the way...
anyway...the real reason $#@#! hates arnold...$#@#! can't imagine that good people actually exist...
During President George Bush's administration he served as Chairman of the President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports, and is the author of numerous books on health and fitness. Schwarzenegger now chairs the Governor's Council of Physical Fitness in the state of California. Since 1979, he has served as the International Weight Training Coach for the Special Olympics. Beginning in 1991 he became involved in the Executive Commission of the Los Angeles Inner-City Games, a mini Olympics designed to help kids say "no" to drugs and violence and "yes" to fitness as a way of life. He sees athletics as a positive alternative to drugs for urban youth, a way to build self esteem, a way to learn goal setting and build camaraderie in a clean lifestyle. Schwarzenegger is now chairman of the Inner-City Games Foundation, a program that has expanded to 10 cities and is continuing to grow. In 1991 he received the Simon Wiesenthal Center's National Leadership Award for his support of the organization's Holocaust studies.
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Fastwalker
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:06 am
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quote:
anyway...the real reason $#@#! hates arnold...$#@#! can't imagine that good people actually exist...
You make a very good point here Seeker. Another classic symptom of modern liberalism is to think everyone is guilty of that which you are guilty. The modern liberal will typically blame others for the very acts they commit, or for the very lies they make themselves. We see this quality consistently throughout Shatoga’s posts.
For example, Clinton was a classic congenital liar. He couldn't help himself...and still can't. If Bill Clinton's lips were moving, it's a good bet he was lying. This is the simple and honest reality. He lies even when he doesn't need to....This is a well known proven fact. Since most liberals suffer from this same malady to one degree or another, (because liberalism, by it's nature, requires one to live in a fantasy world..a world of illusion or lies) they assume that EVERYONE is a liar as they are.
In the mind of a liberal, if Clinton was a liar, so too is Bush. If Clinton makes DNA stains on dresses in the oval office, no big deal, everyone does it. If Clinton snorted cocaine (as his own brother testified that he "has a nose like a vacuum cleaner") liberals just assume that Bush did it too, despite the complete lack of facts or evidence.
We are all deviants in the mind of a modern liberal, because they need to think this way to justify their own deviancy. If they are not a very good person, they assume everyone to be the same way, in order to justify their own existence, so they don’t have to aspire to reach goals beyond their reality. They need to define deviancy down in order create the illusion of moral superiority in their own minds, so they can avoid responsibility for themselves and their own actions....Not a good way to go through life....
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theseeker
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:12 am
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We are all deviants in the mind of a modern liberal
yep one of the tenents of liberalism only it was "universal sufferage" ..an attitude certainly magnified...in today's specimin...as you pointed out in the bush / clinton analogy....a "we are what they are" type deal...and that just ain't the case...
BTW,throw in a little earest angley and presto $#@#! !
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Fastwalker
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:13 am
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Right you are Seekermon, but what's an earest angley?
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Fastwalker
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Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:19 am
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Oh...you mean Earnest Angley! I Googled the name, and it seems like this guy is a televangelist or something like that. We probably don't get him out here in California.
I was about to ask you if throwing in a little earest angley was like throwing in a little Diken's cider from Diken's fruit stand....Glad I didn't.... |
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