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Thermit





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PostFri Dec 29, 2000 5:33 pm  Reply with quote  

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How does a pattern of day-by-day spraying over an area equate to spraying for nefarious purposes?



Sceptic, as implied in my original response, I don't buy daily spraying. I'm also don't buy that it is nefarious in purpose. If you read my Flight Explorer Report you will see that without the benefit of the tool, many contrails are being reported as Chemtrails.

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The least that they could do is get the thing done properly in one fell swoop.



Even the shot-in-the-arm requires multiple doses. You can easily see, that done by air, even more doses are required. Also, I don't consider protecting the populace from biowar a "waste of money". Protecting my loved ones is priceless.
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Sceptic





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PostTue Jan 02, 2001 4:15 pm  Reply with quote  

Thermit,

I guess that my responses were directed at those who promulgate the whole NWO/UN population/mind control type conspiracy.

I appreciate the distinction that you make, but I feel that if the US Government was spraying for beneficial reasons they would be advertising the fact by this stage. But, then, who knows how they think?
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Thermit





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PostTue Jan 02, 2001 8:26 pm  Reply with quote  

Sceptic, there are two pitfalls for them announcing the purpose (given my scenario). One is that people would be shocked by the drastic measures (expensive/experimental) being taken against biowarfare. These drastic measures would wake many up to the threat of bio-terrorism, which could create a panic and would negatively affect the financial markets. If that wasn't bad enough, the idea that they were and had been spraying all along would anger many. You've seen the negative reaction to genetically modified foods and the negative market reaction to our minor "election issues", well this could be much much worse, with genetically modified foods you can try to avoid them, but everybody breathes the air. Much much better for them to just keep quietly plowing the sky, while most everybody remains unaware. Remember the ultimate goal is maintaining the status quo. The operation itself is intended to preserve the status quo, but announcing the operation could easily defeat that purpose.
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theseeker





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 3:32 am  Reply with quote  

Thermit said :

>Remember the ultimate goal is maintaining the status quo. The operation itself is intended to preserve the status quo, but announcing the operation could easily defeat that purpose.<

You say this is your scenario, I am curious...did you just sit down one day see a contrail and come to this scenario ?

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Thermit





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 4:08 am  Reply with quote  

No, everybody who realizes Chemtrails are real naturally becomes concerned with what their purpose is. A personal opinion on that purpose is hopefully created through research and reasoning. I laughed when I first heard about Chemtrails, and figured their must some awfully bored conspiracy theorists out there, but later I saw and learned that there was more to it.
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theseeker





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 7:59 am  Reply with quote  

Thermit I am curious,

>A personal opinion on that purpose is hopefully created through research and reasoning<

What research and reasoning leads you to be a promoter of chemtrails ?

I mean in the truest sense of the word...my research has led me otherwise, and I'm not done but....all the people who have to work to maintain one aircraft, let alone a mega fleet which it would have to be, not one whistleblower, pissed off co-worker,pilot,controler, and what about the folks who clean these babies....that's a serious stretch....

Maybe you could tell me what I'm missing ?



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LTC8K6





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 4:00 pm  Reply with quote  

Thermit, what happens to those who realize chemtrails aren't real?
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Thermit





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 5:51 pm  Reply with quote  

Seeker, I can't explain to you "what you are missing". Everybody has different minds and different information sources, and thus come to different conclusions. You and I are just playing our part, no big deal. I respect your opinion, as long as you are being true to yourself. I can't explain how I come to my position in a way that will satisfy your curiosity, but you can be assured that I am being true to myself.


LTC8K6, from my observation, those who "realize" that Chemtrails aren't real seem to become increasingly perplexed as to why more and more people are becoming concerned with these trails in the sky and they can't understand why what they see as a rediculous hoax doesn't go away.
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theseeker





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 7:50 pm  Reply with quote  

well thanks for the in-depth analysis thermit....lol...

but seriously, you know the old saying there's 3 truth's yours mine and the truth....

looks like it's going to get ugly here, all the attitudes have swept in from carnicom...to bad none of the minds....

one thing if everyone is so scared of being infiltrated via their machine, why are they on the net ?

regards

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LTC8K6





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 10:23 pm  Reply with quote  

I dunno Thermit, it seems like a pretty small group of believers that hasn't gotten much bigger since I've been around. I am still dealing with the same people I always was. I'm still discussing the same theories I always was. I'm still looking at the same photos. The same arguments and counter arguments keep coming up over and over again. I'm not perplexed about why people believe in chemtrails or why they won't "go away". They haven't enough status to be termed "here" yet, do they? They're not as popular as Bigfoot, for instance. Admittedly, he's had more time. How many registered members are there on all of the chemtrail boards? How many of these are the same person registered on several boards? I really don't think they are any more popular than they were when I first tangled with the quakker, moondog, and Carnicom on Cliffies old message board. Those were the days. Quakker claimed I sent him pornography when I sent him a video clip of tree fogs making their chiffon-like foam nests on tree branches. Now those were the good times! You could get a really lively discussion going, and even the flaming was high class. It's kinda boring these days. I think everyone is all argued out, or something. You've got what, 140 registered members? That's because you allow some discussion leeway. If you restricted the site to believers, more of them would probably register, and there are far fewer registered non-believers, so you'd gain members overall. Carnicom lists his total posts on all his forums at only around 6,000 or so.
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Thermit





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 10:36 pm  Reply with quote  

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Quakker claimed I sent him pornography when I sent him a video clip of tree fogs making their chiffon-like foam nests on tree branches. Now those were the good times!



Hehe...that's funny. Sorry we are so boring. Chemtrail Nostalgia...

Carnicom's board would have more posts, except the ezboard software throws away the oldest posts (you know, the page 21 black hole).

Hey the photo's aren't all old!

12/27/00 West of Iowa City
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LTC8K6





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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 10:40 pm  Reply with quote  

Such as my post from last Feb. on Crinklecut's board.
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Re: Look at the List of Visitors to this board
Wednesday, 02-Feb-00 13:31:33

12.77.118.241 writes:
So, if I browse through carnicom.com from my work computer, on my company's account, Clifford could post that my company was visiting his website, couldn't he? And if I tell a few of my co-workers to check out the site, Clifford could post that my company visited the site x number of times. And both would be untrue. Statistical errors.


LTC8K6

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Hmm...Sounds like that has come up again. Note the politeness. Banned anyway, oh darn!

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PostWed Jan 03, 2001 10:53 pm  Reply with quote  

These chemtrail believers may be peddling some flawed science, but they show very pretty pictures.

I love the sky in all its beautiful patterns and colours. Thanks, Thermit.

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