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Aura
Joined: 05 May 2001
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Hello all,
I really must reinforce Cy's post! Rense was only blocked at the Indiana Gov site which is located in Marion County. (Indianapolis)
I had no trouble accessing Rense from my system.
Whether this was done by accident or on purpose I do not know, but I would not be suprised if it was purposefully blocked as our (Indiana) government is quite Bible Belt.
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RidesTheWind
Joined: 27 Feb 2001
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Sun Jul 08, 2001 8:37 pm
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Thanks for clearing that up aura...I didn't see how they could have legally gotten away with that. |
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cydoniaquest
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Sun Jul 08, 2001 8:50 pm
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I think there are plenty of places you can find government intrusion...but not in this particular case.
Check out the street cameras they are having installed in cities in Florida for instance. What about the stop light cameras that fine you $270.00 bucks at the whim of the operator....often at less that 60% accuracy....And the fines do not even go to the city, but rather the corporation who puts them up by greasing the palms of corrupt politicians.
There are countless areas to look into and be concerned with government intrustion into personal privacy and freedoms, but I don't think this particular case is one of them. |
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Aura
Joined: 05 May 2001
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Sun Jul 08, 2001 9:24 pm
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Cy -
Geez! Do you have to make an argument out of everything?
I was not implying that they were trying to block the constituents from anything...The Indiana gov server is for Government information and they have the right to block anything not pertaining to this purpose that they want. I was merely implying that it doesn't surprise me.
You are, once again correct, the intusive influence of the Government is beginning to become excessive...what about Digital TV and subliminal messages...I for one will go back to a regular antenae before I will buy a dish or one of those "black boxes" Cable companies are pushing! |
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cydoniaquest
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Sun Jul 08, 2001 10:27 pm
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Aura,
I should have directed my comments more. I was mainly addressing David, more than anyone....but also the other comments as well that just seem to make the assumption that everything no matter how mundane is some government conspiracy. I agree with anyone who agrees with me....why then would I argue with you?  |
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Norrin Radd
Joined: 04 Nov 2000
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Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:00 am
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SINCE THE SUBJECT IS RELATED.....
I just did a piece a few days ago about Reagan's Inaugural address.
There are many university sites where one line from the speech is omitted.
The line that was edited was......
"Government is the Problem."
Some closed minded fools think this was accidental. I am not so naive .
There are at least 5 sites that contain this incomplete version of Reagan's address.
While some might say this is no big deal, I disagree and I am amazed at the audacity of whoever was involved in editing this great speech.
I found this quote from Reagan's Inagural Address at the Ronald Reagan homepage..... http://reagan.webteamone.com/speeches/in1.html
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."
Now, when I look at the Address, from many University sites, the line, "government is the problem", is ommitted.
Did Reagen really say, "Government is the problem?"
According to the link from the University of Texas, Reagan did say this. This University site is linked directly to NARA, so I am more apt to believe this site. http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/resource/speeches/1981/12081a.htm
If he did say this, then why would so many university sites censor this?
If Reagan said this, then many university sites which have linked to this site below at Yale, would be linked to a censored speech transcript.
Yale http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/presiden/inaug/reagan1.htm
Some other university sites are linked to this next site, which also would be censored...... http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres61.html
Also Grollier's encyclopedia, which is linked to teacher's aid site for grades k-12, also would be a censored transcript.... http://gi.grolier.com/presidents/nbk/inaugs/1981reag.html
Another censored transcript would be at the University of Maryland... http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/ReadingRoom/Nonfiction/Inaugural/reagan1
Indiana University would also have a censored copy and Columbia University is linked to the Bartleby site already posted above..... http://www.indiana.edu/~libgpd/guides/pres/pres40.html
Likewise for the University of Kansas..... http://www.ukans.edu/carrie/docs/texts/49rega1.htm
[Note, when I wrote this I had not confirmed if Reagan made this quote, but now I have confirmed that Reagen did say, "government is the problem"] |
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Swedishoo
Joined: 09 Aug 2000
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Mon Jul 09, 2001 3:29 am
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That's just the problem David. Everytime we turn our heads there is some Tom Dick or Harry socialist scum tryiing to lead America into the $#@#!. BUT, it's us, we the people, who have to stay on top of things, demands answers to our questions, not let things be swept under the carpet, (as we did with Clown Clinton) It's our job to keep order in line and to rid those who are not working for America.
If this were truly a free society the hightest law in the land would be the law of the VOTING MAJORITY, not the law of some dried up sniveling prune of a federal judge!
What you described is MOB RULE. This is the whole reason we have the form of government we have today, so that a majority group cannot rule. The minority voice would never be heard. A republic having elected offices, which includes judges, is a form of government that allows equal rights for ALL people.
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Delphi
Joined: 17 Mar 2001
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Mon Jul 09, 2001 6:23 am
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Until the "water cannons" come rolling out, the rubber bullets, the "new" Humvee with the device on the roof that heats human skin to a painful degree for "crowd dispersement and such". |
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cydoniaquest
Joined: 12 Aug 2000
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Mon Jul 09, 2001 6:28 am
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I think what I remember most about Reagan's speech Brent was the line where he said: "It's time to get government off the backs of the American people".....or something to that effect. The crowd burst out cheering....He might have said government is the problem at that point...but I can't remember. I know it did have that connotation though! |
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Mon Jul 09, 2001 4:50 pm
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Hello Cy, Welcome back. Thought that black chopper got you again.
Christy
If 1000 people cast votes for the color of a new building and 800 vote for blue while the other 200 voted for pink, then the majority vote wins. The building is blue. The miniority had their vote and lost.
Now how in the world is this "Mob Rule". That
is the way it is supposed to happen in a free election. MAJORITY WINS
If 800 people vote blue, no judge in the land has the right to say he/she does not like blue, so your 800 votes do not count.
This IS equal rights. They voted, they lost.
They had a say.I belive very strongly in equal rights, have fought for them, voted for them, and will continue to do the same.
When a federal judge comes in a tells them to change the color to pink, Our government, By the people, OF the people and For the people, is no longer in our control.
Instead of us controlling the government, they now control us. Backwards from what the founding fathers had in mind.
At ground level, you and I agree. This is our country and our government. We maybe have a different point of view on the amount of federal involvement in our lives. I want them in mine as little as possible. 
P.S. We see eye to eye on Klinton, biggest joke to every inhabit OUR White House. I understand they had to fumigate the place to get out the smell of rotten garbage, him. |
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Swedishoo
Joined: 09 Aug 2000
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Mon Jul 09, 2001 5:18 pm
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David, yes we do see eye to eye on our love for our country, and I too want as little as possible of government in my life.
There is plenty of material on-line that explains our Republic system. Picking what color a building should be by voting is a democratic way of voting...like the system of rule a condo association would have. This can work on smaller scales, but on a larger population our fore fathers knew this would not work. This is why our elections are ran by the Electoral College, which is a good thing. For a long time I thought (brain washed) that ridding the EC would benefit America. Not so, this is propaganda by socialist to tear down our system. Another point I would like to reply to, is, that judges do not make up their own rulings. Why would you think this? A judge can only hear and rule what is brought to him in a case. For example, if the majority at the condo wanted a blue exterior and the minority wanted pink, BUT those who wanted pink sued the association for not having blue as a accepted city Key West color, but pink was, then if given all the proper evidence, the judge may have to rule in favor of pink.
Our Republic nation is that for a strict reason. Justice for all. If we lived in a democratic (socialist) nation with Mob Rule, the judge would say, Sorry, the majority wants blue regardless of the Key West laws.
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cydoniaquest
Joined: 12 Aug 2000
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Mon Jul 09, 2001 8:53 pm
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Thanks David....Black helicopters didn't get me, although they have been actively trying to recruit me.
I haven't been at many message boards lately, just hanging around Christy's new Chemtrail and CO board a lot though!
Check it out: Chemtrail and Company II
[Edited 1 times, lastly by cydoniaquest on 07-09-2001] |
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Delphi
Joined: 17 Mar 2001
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Mon Jul 09, 2001 9:33 pm
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I don't understand the "black helicopter" dealy...would folks be any more scared if they still came around but were red or pink or lavender.? No sense in being too much of a "woosie" in this world. The true "patriots" of old weren't or we wouldn't be here now. Give the black helos the one finger salute. |
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