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julianpenrod
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another possible sign of an alien substance in the air
 Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:03 am
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Julian Penrod
4 Fairfield Avenue
West Caldwell, New Jersey 07006
(973) 220-1601
julianpenrod@comcast.net
August 10, 2004
To all:
I have mentioned that, apparently, an alien substance is being introduced into the atmosphere, largely for the purpose of allowing the control of the weather, by taking the place of water. This has, evidently, had the effect of producing land hurricanes and other strange meteorological occurrences, in the past few years.
But, being part of the environment, it can also be expected to interact with it. When the material was, effectively, apparently, "squeezing water out of the air", last year, among other things, huge amounts of moisture would form on surfaces only slightly cooler than what was around them, and at times when it didn't seem particularly humid.
But, since it is supposed to affect weather, that means that it can be involved in weather, as well. This means that it can get mixed into rainwater, and enter the ground. The evidently widespread strange tendency of plants not to grow well, this year, seems like it might be at least partly related to that. But, if this substance falls in the rain, that means it can enter the water system, as well!
Sunday, August 8, my wife took out a bowl of Jell-O she had made, about a week ago, and had left in the refrigerator, since then. She left it, covered in Saran Wrap, on a counter, for a couple of hours. The day was not warm at all, yet, when she came back to it, she found the Jell-O to have completely liquified! It was solid when she took it out of the refrigerator, and she had never seen Jell-O act like this before!
However, if there is an alien and abnormally acting substance in the air, that fell in the rainwater, and entered the water system, it can react differently, when in combination with something like Jell-O. It might, for example, prevent the Jell-O from forming as solid and firm a substance as it is supposed to be! Exposed to only slightly warmer temperatures, the abnormal nature of the material could prevent the Jell-O from remaining solid!
If anyone else has seen similar things, they can be helpful.
Julian Penrod |
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DvdGStwrt
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Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:37 pm
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Um, well, certain acids will cause gelatin to fail. Thus one must cook pineapple before using with gelatin.
Might give a direction to look there.... |
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julianpenrod
Joined: 07 Mar 2002
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Location: west caldwell, new jersey, united states |
| reply to response by DvdGStwrt
Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:17 am
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Julian Penrod
4 Fairfield Avenue
West Caldwell, New Jersey 07006
(973) 220-1601
julianpenrod@comcast.net
August 11, 2004
To all:
Does DvdGStwrt actually believe that I am stupid enough that I would not be aware of other circumstances that could affect the solidity of the Jell-O? I didn't mention fruit of any kind being in the Jell-O because there wasn't any! It was just Jell-O! For that matter, is DvdGStwrt admitting that they are so obtuse that they didn't realize that we said that the Jell-O was solid when it was taken out of the refrigerator? Would we comment on the Jell-O becoming liquid if it wasn't solid previously? Frankly, with their evident disingenuous disinterest in the facts of the situation, and the disrespectful act of beginning their comment with a reply like "Um, well" makes DvdGStwrt sound more like a debunker than a chemtrail opponent! The moderators of Chemtrail Central, it seems, should take more care in who they allow to post in the Chemtrails section of the site!
Julian Penrod |
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DvdGStwrt
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Sun Aug 15, 2004 2:29 am
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Julian Penrod,
We have a cause (Acid) which causes jello to liquefy This is one thing we know that makes gelatin unstable, it is reproducible and we can demonstrate that at certain concentrations the mold will take at a cooler temperature, but once it starts warming up the mold will liquefy. Let us use the words Catastrophic Failure - suggestive of a swift decline of the gelatin, unlike a long term slow melting, you reported that your gelatin underwent a catastrophic failure which appears to be directly related to heat and some "alien substance" which combined causes the gelatin to liquefy.
We have an effect, catastrophic failure in our jello. Since we know that acids have this effect, then we would desire to look at possible sources of acids in the mix. Did we use distilled water to make the gelatin? Or did we use tap water? Has the tap been tested for PH and acidity? Can we safely remove the water as the culprit? If not, can we safely remove other sources of pollutants in the water source?
We have the assumption that "something" is in the atmosphere. Actually there is a lot of something in the atmosphere, from particulate matter to gasses. Knowing what exactly it is we are looking for may be easily found by knowing that pineapple acid is not just any acid. Knowing what kind of acid will go a long way in identifying the source.
We can therefore assume that that something may be a form of acid, or binds with water to make an acid which reacts with jello with the same effect as raw pine apple would at room temperature. This is a clue to defining our "alien substance" and thus is a direction in which you should look.
For all I know your water may be high in acid. When I suggested to look in that direction I meant look in the direction that an acid may be involved.
Now let us discuss the recent news stories about Acid rain demolishing the Canadian woodlands. Oh, that's right, there hasn't been any news on that for quite some time. Where did the acid go?
You give us "Alien Substance" which is suggestive of an unknown. I presented you with a similar case (pineapples) which may lead you to uncover what this unknown is thus making it a known.
David
BTW your blasting me instead of emailing me (my email is posted) to ask or asking nicely what I meant would have been far better than the assumptions you have made of me.
There was no "disingenuous disinterest in the facts" I offered a short reply to the jello thing, one which was enough to cause others to look in the direction of acids as an answer to the problem - no matter where the acids come from. However it seems to illicit nothing but the most unkind proclamations of "debunker".
Obviously you know nothing about me or you would know that I am the least qualified person to be named a "debunker" on the subject of Chemtrails. |
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