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The "Fighting Back" Series PostThu Jul 15, 2004 7:19 pm  Reply with quote  

A previous member, NSASucks, had a large number of "Counter Intelligence" articles to share, so we created a dedicated forum to hold this series.

Some of the info is based on a course by Lee Adams, the rest of the information is based on the experiences of the poster, NSASucks.

This is part of his intro to the series...


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You want to do something that is a little more than just chatting and holding yourselves in the light? Sure you do, or you should. So, without further ado, letís each week look at some ways that we can protect ourselves and do SOMETHING that is non-violent and breaks no laws, real or imagined.

TO do that efficiently, we must first understand how we are being used and manipulated. To do this, we need COUNTER INTELLIGENCE. To that end, I will provide everything I know. Trust me when I say that this and other posts in this vein, are just making a whole bunch of spookers who are trying to bury this CT activism in the grave, mad as hell. Good.

So from now on, I will only post in that regard which will give you all those weapons you need to identify the enemy and truly, and possibly for the first time, a chance to fight back.

I have written up a total of 250 lessons, each a short paragraph or two, which will give you mostly low-tech ways to defeat their high-tech harassment and attack of your right to free speech and free anything. Bitch all you want about this post, but once youíve read a few of these, youíll see the value pretty quickly of having this knowledge.

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PostFri Aug 06, 2004 2:28 am  Reply with quote  

Just a little side note.Anything of this nature,In todays Nazi style clamp down on our freedoms.Can be construde of as terrorist activities.Bush will stop at nothing to halt the activities of those who oppose him.The fact that any misdemeanor can be turned into terrorist activities and inturn any terrorist activity is punishible by death.We obviously need this sort of information.Just be careful how you use it.With the Wars act in effect, We are all enemies of the state.
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PostTue Oct 12, 2004 9:15 am  Reply with quote  

CDsNut$:

Itís about time someone resurrected this.

As soon as I read the first page I knew this must be copied and distributed which is exactly what I did. There are now at least 5 Army men wiser and hip to the game. Yet knowing is not enough. These 5 Army men donít realize the scope and discipline involved with such undertakings let alone sleepwalkers (95% of civilians). The Spooks and Agents that run these games are trained SOLIDERS. Like every solider they have a specified task. That task is to hunt you like an animal if given the order. Good luck in the New States of America when the establishment closes her iron fist.
All Iím saying is that even a ďpacifist activistĒ is now considered a homeland security risk. Dissent will be synonymous with Communism. The military ID chip cards are on the way to civilians young and old. Step out of line even once and stumble evermore.
Those who own certain literature will even be punished and archives of great thinkers will be confiscated under direct violation of our BASIC rights. So some of the populace have decided that they are at war with the establishment. These people have no idea how to fight this war. Because itís a war they canít see. People have all this misplaced anger because they are being fooled about reality. Those who do actually fight usually go down in infamy because of misconstrued ideas or concepts. War is ok if America is fighting it and all who oppose will be enslaved, jailed or killed.
For those of you who will not stand for oppression and who believe in changing America in accordance with Constitution, who will raise their fist in defiance and shed blood in the name of their god and country, I say this: You better make sure you have hundreds of people behind you and a lot of money. For if not, they will bury you, your name and your legacy. For good measure they will bury the constitution with you. You will just be a blurb on the news and the Novus Ordo will keep rolling.
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PostWed Oct 13, 2004 1:10 am  Reply with quote  

Yea i know,I was only here for about 3 weeks when i posted that.Kind of a knee jerk reaction to what had just been reposted.My views have changed a bit in the 2 months ive been here.If you've read some of my post you can tell im not afraid to post the information that is needed to help.
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PostWed Oct 13, 2004 1:38 am  Reply with quote  

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Originally posted by CDsNuTz
Yea i know,I was only here for about 3 weeks when i posted that.Kind of a knee jerk reaction to what had just been reposted.My views have changed a bit in the 2 months ive been here.If you've read some of my post you can tell im not afraid to post the information that is needed to help.


That's for sure CD. You are a great poster.

You are already getting the drift of Bhang. Another brave person reporting fron the Belly of The Beast.

In fact, CTC, with the exception of a few Gloms, is a veritible collection of inquisitive truth watchers and activists.
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PostThu Oct 14, 2004 7:50 pm  Reply with quote  

Today's spittle soaked rant... it didn't start as a rant, but it grew into one. I am posting it anyhow.

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Hello! Very Happy

Well, I couldn't agree with this thread more!

This thread was very interesting to me especially now. I haven't been able to read all of it yet, but it does give some ideas as to how to help oneself. I get the drift though, that in order to really resist, we will have to live like refugees in our own country. I wonder if I can do it again? Their numbers are impressive, their techniques are polished. I was so very relieved to read that I am not the only one being targeted and that smart people like NSASucks tell a similar tale of abuse. Really, nobody but those who know me intimately believe that these things happen.

I know a few things which could help folks. You know, knowledge is responsibility, especially if you know someone is going to fall into a dangerous trap.

I was just recently harangued off two lists and infected with a worm because I was outspoken regarding the abuses of hypnotism in regards to the abduction phenomenon, and also how it has been employed by a network of operatives in Southern California who are actually creating mind controlled zombies out of the members of their abductee/contactee groups. (Oh, and using them in criminal activities, at sex parties and in pornography, BTW) I warned folks that abduction events are MOSTLY human generated~ especially in certain areas. That many of them are screen memories for MILAB and mind control activities. I warned them to avoid abductee / contactee groups which employ group meditations or hypnosis in any form. I warned them not to take their abduction events at face value but to scrutinize them carefully for any signs they are human (rather than alien) generated.

THIS was incredibly unpopular.

You find out very quickly that boards touted as free speech symposiums are anything BUT that! In this case, they used a tag team consisting of a hypnotherapist and a psychologist and employed NLP. What is worse, one of the forums had chummed the board with every conceivable MKULTRA and MONARCH obedience trigger I have ever heard of!

Calling all Zombies!!!

You know, I actually didn't know what hit me at first, their technique was so subtle. It was designed to create the appearance of discrediting me, and it seemed to have worked. Covert aggression is hard to spot if you are not accustomed to dealing with it.

I was briefly locked out of THIS (CTC) board. Immediately after writing to Mech, I was let back in!!! But he had done nothing, and it appeared on his end as though I had never been banned!!! Last night I went to sign up for another board which is pretty far off topic and I find my email addy is BANNED. I tried repeatedly to join, with the same message. My email addy was banned. They let a sock puppet in. I wonder if they were just trying to find out which sock puppets I use, because after the sock puppet got in, they let me in with the original banned addy. It is a knee jerk response to try to join with a sock puppet, and if that was a trap, I sure fell into it. Nevertheless, I feel like going around to a bunch of boards to see which ones I am blacklisted from!!

Now I can happily report that we were sprayed with Chemtrails yesterday. I ran around and got a few pix, but I couldn't get many because I had nowhere to download them due to my battle with the worm. They made them as I watched.

They have sprayed spring and fall for about six years running in Central California. In the 80's I was sprayed twice by malathion in So Cal. Google malathion, and find out who invented it and why. Then ask yourself why were they spraying highly populated civilian areas with no agriculture for a fruit fly which attacks oranges? That was an unhappy time. But these times are worse.

The first chemtrail I witnessed happened over the Auburn CA area in May 96. I moved further north to a more remote location. But they sprayed there, too.

My friend and I called the local tower and the local AFB as well, and nobody would give us any idea who belonged to the bogeys which were spraying in a tic-tac-toe pattern all over the valley. We were treated to a "Dick Dance" as we say.

The AF denied all, saying our observations must be of "normal air traffic patterns". My friend worked for 33 years at an AFB in aircraft, and he knows what a normal pattern is. We wouldn't have called the base if it was a normal pattern. It was clearly chaff deployment.

The local civilian tower at least *admitted* to having a visual on the bogeys, but claimed they were not appearing on the controller's radar. In other words, the bogeys were not using transponders and / or in contact with the tower. Having made THAT statement, he then said, "it looks like normal air traffic patterns". He used the exact words the AF officer did!! When challenged that normal traffic patterns do not lay a criss-cross grid at the same altitude, and that these patterns were being laid well off the established commercial flight corridor, he did the equivalent of a verbal shrug.

Dick Dance.

Or was it?

I felt like I fell asleep and woke up in the movie "Invaders From Mars" or maybe "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". I wanted to check these two fellows for little red X's on the back of their necks or see if there was something funny growing in their basements~ like PODS!!!

How does any logical argument cut through THAT? Sad

As for the spraying we had here yesterday:

My friend Smitty says:

"At least some of the chemtrail activity is part of the Air Force's 'We Own The Weather' program. Coincidentally, after yesterday's spraying, they are now predicting a ten to fifteen degree temperature drop over the weekend in our area. Prior to yesterday, the forecast predicted no such drop. Yesterday's forecast was 'warm to hot the next few days, as temperatures move to near 90'. Then yesterday we had chemtrails. Today's forecast says 'This is the time of year when our weather can make fast changes. You will feel that change over the weekend as temperatures fall another ten to fifteen degrees'. Coincidence?"

lalalala...

I did notice one thing about spraying that is not well known.

In Florida~ way back when~ Jeb Bush ordered aerial spraying against marijuana plantations. What they were using was a genetically modified mycoplasm which they claimed would attack only cannabis plants. Sigh.

Shortly after the first chemtrails were spotted in CA, the oak trees started massively dying off. I learned recently from a former nurseryman that watermelons are not growing well these days. He used the word "exploding" when describing the issue of their failure.

If I were a NAZI who wanted to take over America, I would seriously target California first. Remember the Enron Shuffle? And the energy crisis, which put many small ag concerns out of business paving the way for the large agribusiness corps to monopolize such as the poultry and nursery industries. Oh, how about creating a six year drought? And dropping a few designer mycoplasms around on a lark? After all, California was the worlds FIFTH LARGEST ECONOMY in 2002:

http://www.lao.ca.gov/2002/cal_facts/econ.html

Speaking of Sock Puppets, look who is running the show out here! Der Governator!!! All I can say is that all the Chemtrail spraying and malathion and Nutrasweet MUST have worked, or THAT never would have occurred!!! Our state is being systematically and subtly gutted in tiny increments, and they will not stop until they have a two class economy and all us peons again owe our souls to the Company Store.

Look, I know this has turned into a lengthy rant, and I don't say much of any use. I really am kinda mad at the trends, and I wish I could do something to help. Alas, I am used up except for ranting! I am quite exhausted and addled at the moment.

If anybody has any idea about what a person can really do to make a difference let me know. I mean, I have posted on and off, but the tag teams and street theatres are very sophisticated and it is very easy to diffuse a used up old drunkard such as myself. Especially when you have an audience of "True Believers"~ be they self described Abductees or Dittoheads.

They want us to believe that resistance is costly and futile, and I can attest to that. I am the poster child for energy being spun off due to their BARRAGE. When I was more active, they would run me off the freeway at high speed, kill my pets, stalk my extended family, surreptitiously drug me and my associates, put bees in the bonnets of my employers, treat me to low slow black huey flyovers, etc.

They really do these things to people like me!

They will do it to people like you too.

I am just out of constructive suggestions as to how to fight effectively, especially given the nature of the enemy. The only thing I can think of is to air ideas constantly regardless of the cost, and this can only go so far. Our enemy includes above-the-law killing machines, you know. Not just nasty spotty little nerds giggling at their terminals at how much inconvenience they have caused us with their nasty little worms. When they start breaking into your house and leaving evidence they have done so, you might think twice before being outspoken, especially if you have kids or pets.

I posted before that I come from a long line of soldiers. One of my ancestors was a Captian under G. Washington when he crossed the Delaware. One of my ancestors threw sticks and rocks at the Union at the battle of Vicksburg. You can't fight the Machine with sticks and rocks anymore. They don't wear uniforms, they fly no flag. They are your neighbours, your friends, your doctors, your shrinks, your priests. They are anonymous gremlins on the net.

Any thoughts?

Love,

Os


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PostThu Oct 14, 2004 8:24 pm  Reply with quote  

Glad to see you made it back, Os!

This is always the question......Where is the line between caution and paranoia? Real enemies and phantoms? I know that our Nazi-infiltrated government is trying a different approach to the Fourth Reich. Let them know we are also watching them

Being outspoken can disassociate you with family and co-workers, but sometimes that is a good thing.

Make sure your house is alarmed with phone, audible, and radio frequency sends. Set up a camera or microphone hooked up to a VCR running on EP mode. Use codes when talking to friends, and change them often.

My Great Uncle was commander of the German Ship The Bismark during WW2. He was at odds with the admiral on Hitler's plan. Thus the theory that he helped sabatage the ship, and put up a petty fight against The Hood. The family was also despised in Germay for speaking out against the Thrid Reich's plans. They didn't kill the family, but were constantly harassed. So I come from a line of outspoken people that went up against Tyranny. Let's call it intuitive, and I know a dictator when I see one.

What to do?....Resist or get away. That simple. We look at our life and say, what activities in our life, besides involuntary bodily functions, do we have in common with the current crop of Neo-Conazionists? Diet, music, movies, sexual identity, you name it. We try and do everything opposite they do. Of course murder, rape, robbery, and violence are givens that any decent human would agree upon. Bush is a murderer, so we do the opposite.
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PostSun Oct 17, 2004 8:34 am  Reply with quote  

I had an observation which I'd like to share. It is a statement not a suggestion.

After years of being hip to subliminal programs, especially on the news, I began to see a trend. Every time an Activist gets a moment on the television, that is the last you here of it. By the next day it is forgotten as far as the media is concerned. Unless of course we add the missing ingredient to this recipe, VIOLENCE.

Iíve noticed that violence is the key to reaching the public at large. The fifteen car pileup is on the news longer than the story of a homeless shelter being shut down. The crazy Russian who slit his motherís throat gets way more air time than the statewide scores on academics and how they are actually worse than they have ever been.

If I write about Chemtrails for 50 years I might have been blessed with a few book tours and a few dedicated fans that are always willing to give me new information when it comes along.

Yet if I were to kill, say 20 people who I have proved to be involved in some sort of chemtrail activity, I would get more air time than Christmas. All these people would be asking questions and pointing fingers while the spooks scrambled to hush it up. Some intelligent people would really begin to breakdown the barriers surrounding the issues and prove the tragedy that is the chemtrail ďconspiracyĒ.

It may sound like a preposterous thing to say to you. Well Iím not telling you. Iím telling the William Wallaceís of the world who know the truth and in order to protect his family, friends and country has no problems with picking up his sword and lopping off a few heads in the name of justice, truth and freedom. Imagine the air time Wallace would get. Imagine the things that would change and how quickly in todayís society.
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The Truth About AONN-The Old Adage-Don't Believe Everything PostFri Nov 12, 2004 12:08 pm  Reply with quote  

The reason why I signed up with Chemtrail was not to talk about Chem Trails. I signed up with the site because I found a post that someone had made pertaining to AONN. I had to laugh when I read the AONN blurb that someone had left http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000568.html

One of the reasons why DSI was created, was to demonstrate how stupid people can be. Scowl and scoff if you will, but I think we did a pretty good job during the course of our war gaming. If you are reading this from anywhere in the world, know that AONN is not "Unholy." AONN/ DSI was a project designed to weed out radical elements in real world, geopolitical combat scenarios. It was fun. The idea was conceived by junior high school kids back in the 1980s when gangs had begun to overtake America's streets. All the conspiracies aside from what people other than those at AONN came up with, are just what they are--conspiracies. Hoaxes. Propaganda. Believe it or not, even in the 21st century, people still fall for this.

AONN is not "in league with the forces of darkness" as people like Larry Lawson or whatever his name is, speculated. This is preposterous. It was all made up. We are AONN debunking ourselves so that haters can relax. Yes, we have been legitimate defense contractors, but the occult, paranormal, supernatural conspiracies were merely plays. Theater. It's beyond me that people can still be this stupid. Through defense security intelligence research and development, we did in fact test some of America's defense networks, but again, the weird and the bizarre were but a game. Recall the obviously government manufactured UFO conspiracies during the 20th century, in which our own government attempted to have our fellow citizens believe in extraterrestrial life, so as to take our minds off the government's actual Cold War objectives? Well, the same is true of AONN/ DSI. We made this stuff up. Many knew this, yes. But many didn't know this and believed in these "insane" suggestions. And it just goes to show how counterproductive we can be as humans and how weak minded we can be at times. It's all just entertainment folks. But this is not to say that extraterrestrial life does not exist, as we know it does, based on our collective observation. I simply meant that during the Cold War, our U.S. government played up the whole ET bit, i.e., the "aliens" with the big black oval eyes that now seem so commonplace in marketing and advertising.

Next, the bigbrother address at dsispecialaccess.net has been deleted BY US, thank you. Some people had freaked out about its existence. And no one pressured us to remove this, or even suggested that it be done. No one forced our hand. Though, some people reported that "bigbrother" was on the rise. It's not real people. It was a spoof. Hello! A spoof! to illustrate how idiotic fascism is. We are not fascists. We are not Nazis. We are not Gestapo or the secret police. We didn't create ECHELON to spy on fellow citizens. We are not some shadow government. We are not cyborg killing machines. We are not anti-Christian, or anti-Muslim and we are not secret Zionist agents as some have said. Remember the Blair Witch Project? Well, I hate to say it, but it's the same deal. As corny as that sounds, it's the truth. Now, don't get me wrong, or, don't get it twisted as some would say, we do make records and we do, once again, work on defense projects. But none of the crazy ass stuff that you've heard about AONN is true in any way. We did not hijack a government Web site. We did not steal any government property or do anything inappropriate. I personally met face to face with government investigators in 2003. Don't be silly. AONN is not Satanic or connected to any stupid secret society. AONN is not the "Illuminati." AONN is a business group that specializes in digital media and computer information security. And AONN doesn't just make rap records. In fact, the November 12 Projekt features 39 different artists along with every genre from Folk, to Electronica, to Rock to Hip Hop. DSIN is actually a business enterprise that was created by AONN and affiliates and it is what it says it is. Chiefly, DSIN was created to test security and provide counterintelligence functions where governments lack. The latter only can be accomplished through what is known as war gaming. That's what we do. It's just a game people. Wake up and smell the aroma. So there you have it. Laugh a little. Don't be haters. Conspiracies, some of them, are genuine and potentially damaging on a wide scale, but AONN is not part of this conspiracy culture. Although I meant every word of what I said with regard to bizarre phenomena in Washington State. But again, relax dammit. If aliens wanted you dead, they would have taken you out billions of years ago. We are our own worst enemies, those who are the haters, conspirators and full-time conspiracy theorists, of course--the ones who believe everything they see and hear. LOL!

Sincerely,

Robert Taylor
CEO/AONN Records

http://www.dsispecialaccess.net/operation_codename_aonn_records
http://www.dsispecialaccess.net/open_source_archives
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PostSun Nov 14, 2004 2:53 am  Reply with quote  

Hmmm Almost 2 years later, who gives a crap?There are Bigger things to worry about in this mess some people call a democracy then whatever the heck was/is going on behind closed doors @ AONN.
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PostMon Nov 15, 2004 5:05 am  Reply with quote  

Sorry,That was probably uncalled for,I'm sure someone gives a crap.I should've kept my comments to myself as i've only been here several months and obviously have no idea what the hell he's talkin about. Anyhow, Sorry again.
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