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Swamp Gas
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Bush arrested in Canada?
 Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:45 am
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This sure looks real, and if it's hack, it has not been taken down yet. I saved it as an html file just in case.
http://www.world-cnn.com/2004/WORLD/americas/11/30/bush.arrest/index.html
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:13 am
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WHOA!!!
How come this is totally unreported?
This HAS to be fake!
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:33 am
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Try this.
www.geekissues.org/c/33088 - 55k |
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:48 am
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Google has parodied before, but these Lawyers Against the War are real. One wonders whether it was real, and media blackout in the US? If fake Bin Laden videos can be pushed on a naive public, why not a blackout?
Either way, Bush should be behind bars instead of in the Oval Office.
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 2:58 am
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Not just Bush. |
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| Media Yank
Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:43 am
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Sorry folks, but this is Media Yank AGAIN. Not the first time I might add. The Canadians can call Bush's booboo a maple leaf imprint all they want, but the truth is it came from choking on a pretzel. LOL
http://hondos.org/forum/Posting.asp?FId=277&Id=55147
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:46 am
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yes, From Pooppy Bush right down to Condi Rice. All of them, criminals
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:16 am
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Hmmm Mech, your link is very interesting
December 2, 2004
Court date to be set for torture charges against Bush
Lawyers against the War applied today to have the torture charges against George Bush set before a judge to determine whether a summons or warrant should issue. A date will be set in BC Provincial Court, Criminal Division, at Vancouver on Monday December 6th 2004.
Torture charges against Bush were laid November 30th 2004 by Gail Davidson, co-chair of Lawyers against the War--LAW, under provisions enacted pursuant to the U.N. Convention against Torture, ratified by Canada in 1987 and the United States in 1994. The charges concern the well known abuses of prisoners held by US Armed Forces in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and the Guantánamo Bay prison in Cuba.
Because Bush is not a Canadian citizen the consent of the Attorney General of Canada is required within 8 days in order for the prosecution to continue.
LAW has requested that Attorney General of Canada, Irwin Cotler review the evidence upon which the charges are based before deciding whether to consent to the prosecution.
Canada has a duty under the Convention against Torture to ‘take effective measures to prevent torture’.
Hmmm, I have a few tricks up my sleeve to see if this is true...BRB
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| Mock Arrest
Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:29 am
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I went directly to the Canadian Press, The Vancouver Sun in British Columbia. Very interesting. This was a MOCK arrest, but what is so interesting is how the Canadian citizens reacted toward Bush's visit. Huge protests, and knocking down statues...lol... Here's the story:
N.S. anti-Bush protesters convict U.S. president of war crimes in mock trial
Ruth Davenport
Canadian Press
Wednesday, December 01, 2004
Four-year-old Dylan Mulvey-Schulman passes by the American consulate in Montreal. (CP PHOTO/Ian Barrett)
HALIFAX (CP) - Nova Scotians got a chance to convict the most powerful man in the world in Halifax on Tuesday night.
Members of the Halifax Peace Coalition staged a mock trial of U.S. President George W. Bush in downtown Halifax to protest the president's visit to the city on Wednesday. "Since 2000, President Bush has violated the Nuremberg Convention, the Geneva Convention, international and domestic law and our own Canadian War Crimes Act," said organizer and would-be prosecutor Tamara Lorincz.
"So we're asking Prime Minister (Paul) Martin to recognize that an argument can be made that Bush is a war criminal and he is not welcome in Canada on that basis."
During the brief, humourous proceeding, Lorincz charged Bush under the Canadian Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act for the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
To animated reaction from a large crowd of observers who came from across Nova Scotia for Bush's visit, various mock witnesses testified against Bush, including representatives of "collateral damage" casualties in Iraq and of the prisoners in Abu Ghraib and Guatanamo Bay in Cuba.
"After 12 years of economic sanctions, Mr. George Bush darkens our doorsteps and soaks our streets with our children's blood," said Dina Al-Qaysi, an Iraqi immigrant who testified on behalf of the Iraqi people. "Has the world forgotten that we are people? Mr. Bush speaks of liberation but all he has brought our country is death and destruction."
Bush was also charged for contributing unreasonably to climate change, endangering the health of the world's population and - to the crowd's delight - helping cause violent storms that wreaked havoc on Atlantic Canada.
A man who strongly resembled Bush, who pleaded not guilty on all charges, testified in his own defence with classic flair.
"Well heck, sure we sent a few more hurricanes up around Nova Brunswick," he responded over boos and catcalls. "But weather patterns come and go, that's the way it's always been. But one thing I don't want to go is the God-given right of the American people to enjoy the lifestyle to which they are acclimatized. America is not going to endure the uncomfortableness of walking and bicycling on my watch."
After both defence and prosecution rested their cases, the crowd delivered a unanimous, roaring verdict of "guilty!" on all charges.
Despite chants of "String him up!" from the crowd, Bush was sentenced to be deported to the United States to face trial for his crimes there.
Lorincz said protests during Bush's two-hour visit to Halifax, apparently to thank the city for its hospitality to travellers delayed by the September 2001 terrorist attacks, will be peaceful but energetic.
"It's three years too late so thanks, but no thanks," said Lorincz. "We reject the United States' belligerent and unilateral agenda and we're so concerned that we're willing to come out on the streets and call for peace and justice."
Meanwhile, in Vancouver, about 500 protesters cheered as they pulled down a statue of Bush on Tuesday.
The foam statue resembled one of Saddam that was toppled in Baghdad during the Iraq war.
Protesters chanted "Bush Go Home" and waved placards, calling the president a war criminal.
An organizer told the crowd that welcoming Bush makes no sense just because the U.S. is Canada's most important trading partner.
"But under that kind of logic, we could accept that they invited Hitler for dinner if they thought it would be good for business," shouted Megan Schlase.
Gail Davidson, of Lawyers Against the War, took the protest one step further, filing criminal charges in Vancouver against Bush for allegedly aiding in torture in Iraq.
British Columbia's attorney general would have to approve the charges.
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/index.html
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:31 am
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Germany has some procedures going also:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7396.htm
Lawyers in Germany Charge Rumsfeld, Tenet With War Crimes in Iraq:
Democracy Now interview with Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, who is filing a criminal complaint charging a group of U.S. officials with war crimes in Iraq.
AMY GOODMAN: We go now to Berlin to Michael Ratner, President of the Center for Constitutional Rights. Welcome to Democracy Now!
MICHAEL RATNER: Thank you for having me.
AMY GOODMAN: Can you explain what this lawsuit is all about?
MICHAEL RATNER: Well Germany has the best single law probably in the world right now for prosecuting alleged war criminals. You can prosecute them anywhere in the world. They have universal jurisdiction and we decided to come to Germany partly on the basis of that law and partly on the basis that three of the people involved in torture are actually in Germany. Ricardo Sanchez, who is the general in charge of all the of the military bases in Iraq, as well as the Iraq War during the Abu-Ghraib period, his Deputy Major Picowski and Colonel Pathos, they are all at U.S. military bases in Germany, so that gives you another handle. They are actually here. They are people who we allege were deeply involved in the abuses and torture that took place. Germany is different than the United States in the sense that you can actually bring a criminal complaint and the prosecutor has to do something with it. He has to either investigate it, go ahead and do something, indict people, or he could reject it, but in that case you can always go to a court. We decided this, really, we have been working on it for a number of months. The German complaint is 160-some pages, quite detailed. Most of it is based on the public record of what these people have authorized over a period of years and we came here really for two reasons. One is the U.S. is not doing anything to investigate the chain of command going up. The investigations are a complete fraud. There are only criminal indictments at best against low-level officials and there's nowhere you can turn to international courts; the U.S. isn't in the ICC. So this is really, I consider this a major and important initiative and it will really say whether the German law has the teeth that it should and whether or not big torturers like the United States can get away with setting an agenda that is taking us into the Dark Ages. Coming on the heels of, of course, the Guantanamo article in the Times, it's quite extraordinary. Coupled with the attempts to keep Bush out of Canada right now that are being made on the grounds that their immigration law doesn't allow war criminals for people who violate laws of war into Canada. We're really, I think, trying to make I think this world right now as uncomfortable for these people in the administration as we can.
AMY GOODMAN: Michael Ratner, can you talk about this report on the front page of the New York Times today, "Red Cross Finds Detainee Abuse at Guantanamo," a confidential report calls practice tantamount to torture. You are representing some of the detainees at Guantanamo.
MICHAEL RATNER: Yes. I was really, I mean I was really--I wasn't pleased at what I saw in the report, but I have known about this for a long time. In fact they talk about what happened to three of our clients, the three from the United Kingdom who told me their stories in March that, March of this year, that track exactly what happened, what the New York Times article says from shackling to isolation to stripping, a whole range of conduct both psychological and physical that now the Red Cross says, as of June 2004, that are tantamount to torture and what's extraordinary to me is this is like the emperor has no clothes. Everybody in the world knows the U.S. is engaging in everything from cruel inhuman and degrading treatment to torture. They are doing it around the world, they're doing it in Guantanamo, they're doing it in Baghram, they're doing it in Iraq. And United States insists as Donald Rumsfeld says in that article, as the Pentagon spokesman says, we treat people humanely. The world has become utterly Orwellian. War is peace, torture is humane treatment. That article is just extraordinary because it does detail exactly what happened to our clients, the Center's clients in Guantanamo and it's one of the reasons we are here in Germany. When you can call that treatment humane treatment, we have a world and we have a government, we have a government that has to be changed. Something has to be done that these people have to be held accountable. In 10 years or 20 years from now, I don't want to see us then finally write "nunc amas" like they did in Argentina after all of the tortures that took place there. We should do something about it now. And what's amazing is, this is not in the past. This is continuing today. What's going on in Guantanamo, what's going on in the detention facilities around the world is continuing today. And our highest level government officials are authorizing it, condoning it and then trying to say oh, no, it's a few bad soldiers. But that's not the case.
AMY GOODMAN: Michael Ratner, the Red Cross report goes on to say, quote, "The construction of such a system whose stated purpose is the production of intelligence cannot be considered other than an intentional system of cruel, unusual and degrading treatment and a form of torture." I wanted to ask you about that linked to Congress expanding its threats to cut off aid, both military and civil aid, to countries which refuse to guarantee immunity to Americans from prosecution by the International Criminal Court.
MICHAEL RATNER: Well, it's all related, Amy. What I have always said about our refusal to even join the International Criminal Court and now our desire, or our efforts to enter special agreements with these countries and to cut off aid, it's related to our highest government officials know that they are engaged in basic violations of the laws of war and humanitarian law and they don't want to be prosecuted anywhere in the world and they want their soldiers to be able to carry those illegal acts out all over the world without, with impunity from prosecution. And it goes right to the Gonzales memo that was written in January 2002 when he said well, we better not say the Geneva Conventions apply because if the Geneva applies, we can be charged with war crimes under Geneva and the best defense is to simply say they don't apply. So what we're doing around the world is we're coercing countries with our political, economic, and military power into saying the United States is not just exceptional in its many ways it thinks but is exceptional even in the sense that the laws prohibiting torture should not apply to it. It's an extraordinary moment. One that is taking us back really to the Middle Ages.
AMY GOODMAN: Finally Michael Ratner, President Bush making his first state visit to Canada today and Lawyers Against War, a legal organization, has called on the Prime Minister, the Canadian Prime Minister, Paul Martin, to issue a warrant for President Bush's arrest for breaking the country's Crimes against Humanity and War Crimes Act.
MICHAEL RATNER: What they have actually done in Canada is say that because Bush is president, he can't actually be prosecuted right now in Canada until he's out of office, but that he should be barred from entering Canada because alleged war criminals, people who violate humanitarian law, cannot come into Canada and he should be barred from coming into Canada and it is true, their law is very clear on that, and if the Canadians have any guts, that's what they'll do. But unfortunately, although the world knows that this country, the United States, is now harboring torturers at the highest level, so far we haven't seen people stand up. I want to say one more word about the German case. We're going to need support all over the world to make sure that prosecutor really does an investigation. If people visit the CCR web site at ccr-ny.org, they will in a few hours find a letter they can send directly to the German prosecutor urging the German prosecutor to begin a serious investigation. But really we are facing a moment that's a very bad moment on terms of what the U.S. is doing but a very good moment in that lawyers and other activists all over the world are really pursuing these tortures to the end of the earth. We called them in our legal jargon, enemies of all humankind who can be brought to justice wherever found. And that is what we have to do.
AMY GOODMAN: Michael Ratner, I want to thank you very much for being with us. Michael Ratner is President of the Center for Constitutional Rights. He is speaking to us from Berlin, Germany.
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