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An attack in 90 days?
Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:41 pm
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Where else but at the Fox News website would you get a report like this?
U.S. Terror Attack 'Ninety Days at Most'
quote: Counterterrorism expert Juval Aviv spoke with FOX Fan Central about what Americans can do to protect themselves in case of a terror attack.
Do you believe another terrorist attack is likely on American soil?
I predict, based primarily on information that is floating in Europe and the Middle East, that an event is imminent and around the corner here in the United States. It could happen as soon as tomorrow, or it could happen in the next few months. Ninety days at the most.
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Swamp Gas

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Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:59 am
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90 days, heh?
I heard The Inbred-in-charge say on the radio today, "We must extend the powers of The Patriot Act, and not let the sunset clauses take effect"
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:43 am
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I hope everyone has their (at least) 90 days of food, Potassium Iodate and MOPP (Bio chem) facemask
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Swamp Gas

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Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:49 am
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Got it covered, Mech!
We even have a radiation suit we used to use in live shows....
Stocked up on bird and human food and water for 6 months
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:45 pm
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And even the right-wing media seems to be bracing itself for this?
Here comes the nuclear strikes in the US.
quote: Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S.
Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico border by MS-13 gangsters
quote: According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:10 pm
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If TPTB know so goddamned much about these "terra-ist" plans, then why the F don't they stop them???
If this type of attack occurred (and I would not put it past them, as I'm convinced that these terrorist-mofos, GW, Blair..., would go to any lengths to achieve their goals) , Cheney would be in/near a bunker; Dubya would be a comfortably safe distance away (or will they invoke his "Temporary" status, you know his Skull&Bones nickname?) , as would all others in this neo-con admin. And somehow I think that neither Guiliani nor Netanyahoo would be close to the "action" this time!
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Swamp Gas

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Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:17 pm
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I understand that Cold War era Nukes are very deteriorated. Here's a quote from Mike Rivero. Now, if the Mossad or CIA was to detonate a fresh Nuke, that's something completely different. Either way, having lived through the 50s, and the Cold War, I have never seen anything like what these bastards are putting us through.
quote: While the Uranium and Plutonium used in warheads have long half-lives, the explosives used to start the process do not. After 20 years, a nuclear warhead must be rebuilt and the explosives replaced. In the case of the Plutonium implosion device, is just one detonator fails to ignite exactly in synch with all the others, the uniform compression needed for efficient detonation will not occur. 2. For boosted multi-stage weapons, the real problem is Tritium, which has a half life of just 12 years, and worse, decays into Helium 3, which actually inhibits nuclear fission by absorbing neutrons.
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:24 pm
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"Editor's note: Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin is an online, subscription intelligence news service from the creator of WorldNetDaily.com a journalist who has been developing sources around the world for almost 30 years. The subscription price for the premium newsletter has been slashed in half and is now available for only $9.95 per month."
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45203
A rational thought:
This is coming from a subscription news service. If this threat were a geniune one, I feel we would have seen *something* about it in the mainstream media. The nature of subscription news would cater to providing articles interesting enough to warrent a subscription in the first place, ie: sensationalism. I seriously doubt a $9.95 subscription is going to reward it's members with a leg up on the coming Apocolypse.
And as Swamp says, if these detonators are in a state of advanced decomposition, it will not be possible to activate them & I seriously doubt any terrorist organization would have access to facilities that would effect a repair to these missing suitcase units both Russian AND American that have been reported for years.
Don't yeild to fear-pimping bullsh*t.
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Swamp Gas

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Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:43 pm
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Yes, ET...Low Level fear is the name of the game. We can expect standard explosives, which take a lot less technology. I don't think the NWO wants a complete breakdown of the system, because that would be too hard to control. Striking fear in people who ride mass transit has the same effect. Possibly, we will see highway snipers, kidnappings, bombs in buses and cars, and other "street criminal" type activity. This way, people still keep buying and consumming, propping up the fragile Chinese and Saudi owned economy. _________________ Heard it from a pilot who spoke real gooooood! |
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:13 pm
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http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=&ItemID=6027
You won't often read a more chilling opinion piece than today's commentary by New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristoff. In an editorial titled "An American Hiroshima," Kristoff cites leading establishment academic, intelligence, and policy authorities (including a former Secretary of Defense) to remind us that the explosion of a nuclear device in a major American city by Islamic terrorists is a very real possibility. The former Secretary of Defense (William Perry) "says," Kristoff reports, "there is an even chance of a nuclear terror strike within this decade - that is, in the next six years."
Relying on Harvard Professor Graham Allison,'s "terrifying new book, 'Nuclear Terrorism,'" Kristoff tells the story of how in October 2001 George W. Bush learned from "a C.I.A. source code-named Dragonfire...that Al Qaeda had obtained a 10-kiloton nuclear weapon and smuggled it into New York City. The C.I.A. found the report plausible," since "the weapon had supposedly been stolen from Russia, which indeed has many 10-kiloton weapons, Russia is reported to have lost some of its nuclear materials, and Al Qaeda has mounted a determined effort to get or make such a weapon. And the C.I.A. had picked up Al Qaeda chatter about an 'American Hiroshima.'"
Bush (who I thought looked pretty shook up in October 2001) sent nuclear arms specialists to New York City to rummage around for the bomb. Dick Cheney and other officials were dispatched from the nation's capital "to ensure the continuity of government in case a weapon exploded in Washington instead." To "avoid panic," incidentally, "the White House told no one in New York City, not even Mayor Rudy Giuliani."
The "Dragonfire" scare was a false alarm, but "similar reports - that Al Qaeda has its hands on a nuclear weapon from the former Soviet Union - have," Kristoff notes, "regularly surfaced in the intelligence community" and "we do know several troubling things: Al Qaeda negotiated for a $1.5 million purchase of uranium (apparently of South African origin) from a retired Sudanese cabinet minister; its envoys traveled repeatedly to Central Asia to buy weapons-grade nuclear materials; and Osama bin Laden's top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, boasted, 'We sent our people to Moscow, to Tashkent, to other Central Asian states, and they negotiated, and we purchased some suitcase [nuclear] bombs.'"
Dr. Allison has bet Kristoff that "a terrorist nuclear strike will occur somewhere in the world in the next 10 years." While doubting that such an event will take place, Kristoff is appalled that the very real threat of a nuclear attack on US soil has not elicited more serious attention from the Bush administration, which "has insisted [instead] on tackling the most peripheral elements of the W.M.D. threat, like Iraq, while largely ignoring the central threat, nuclear proliferation." At the end of his column Kristoff tells us that his next commentary will "explain how we can reduce the risk of an American Hiroshima."
A "Post-Cold War" Recipe For "Homeland" Catastrophe
To which I say, "yes, of course." I personally thought we got off easy with 9/11. I have had been expecting something much worse for quite a while before the terrible jetliner attacks. I have long thought that three core and interrelated US policies were combining to create the essential components for a likely "American Hiroshima": (1) encouraging, aiding, furthering, and reveling in the destruction, humiliation, and bankrupting of state and society in the former Soviet Union, home to thousands of nuclear devices, large numbers of unemployed or under-employed scientists (and teachers, industrial workers and nurses, etc.); (2) the incredibly provocative imperial subjugation and humiliation of the proud, intelligent and armed Islamic world (dramatically accelerated with the decline of the Soviet deterrent to US globalism), home to sophisticated, experienced, spiritually determined, and capable jihad networks and to terror-financing surplus (oil)capital; (3) the advancement of high-speed high volume economic globalization (on the corporate-led model), which overwhelms the capacity of customs, "border patrol" and domestic intelligence and law enforcement officials to protect the American "homeland" from terrorist weapons and personnel.
This is and has been for some time been a three-part recipe for unimaginable catastrophe - the nightmare scenario that led Bush to send nuke-sniffers to NYC and Dick Cheney (who certainly deserves to be the first to be incinerated in any nuclear attack on the US) "out of town" in October 2001 (see below).
You do not have to be a leftist like me to see things this way. I distinctly remember sitting in a bar with a centrist, quasi-Republican friend of mine in the late summer of 2000 (one year before 9/11). Both of us agreed that New York City would be hit - for the three reasons listed above - with a major (we figured nuclear) terror attack within the next year or two.
Survival, Hegemony, and the Goddess of Revenge
Kristoff should consult three sources before writing his next column, "explaining" how we might save ourselves:
(1) CIA Analyst "Anonymous's" recent book Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror (Brasseys, Inc., 2004), which argues that the biggest threat to American security today is US policymakers' lockstep, ideologically mandated insistence that al Qaeda and its expanding ilk and progeny are driven by a blind, inchoate, totalitarian hatred of "WHO WE [the US that is] ARE" (supposedly the "land of freedom," "democracy," and all that). "Anonymous," who is no leftist (there's not many of those working for the CIA), has spent the bulk of his recent professional life closely tracking al Qaeda's history, leaders, and ideas. Imperial Hubris is dedicated to the proposition that al Qaeda and the considerable support it receives in the mainstream Muslim world - dramatically increased by the invasion of Iraq (a true public relations and recruiting windfall for bin-Laden and his grateful and multiplying supporters and allies) - is all about WHAT WE DO TO AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST. And what we do, "Anonymous" readily acknowledges (CIA affiliation be damned), is function as bloody economic, political, cultural, and military imperialists: stealers and controllers of Arab oil, sustainers of Israel's racist occupation state, protectors of corrupt Arab regimes, butchers of Muslim innocents, attackers of Islamic shrines and values, and so on.
(2) Noam Chomsky's book Survival or Hegemony: The American Quest for Global Dominance [The American Empire Project] (New York, NY: Metropolitan Books, 2003) a masterful synthesis on the Bush Doctrine and its venerable and bi-partisan origins. Chomsky argues that "elite" US foreign policy makers routinely privilege the quest for unchallenged global supremacy over the security of the American populace. No, the policymakers don't want terror attacks on US soil (well, a manageable one before the election would help Bush II in the polls), but preventing such attacks - Chomsky argues - just isn't a high priority within the statesmen's Grand Imperial Design for the "post-Cold War era." Their hegemony trumps our survival by their revolting moral calculus - a choice that can be seen in their decision to push patriotic national security operatives like Richard Clarke and "Anonymous" to the policy margins on their march to an incredibly provocative (to Muslims, including the majority who hated Saddam, and others across the plant) invasion of Iraq.
Chomsky, by the way, notes that one of the Bush II administration's earliest acts was to cut a program that was helping reduce the risk of loose Russian nukes slipping into terrorists' hands. Anything to pay for those glorious plutocratic tax cuts to spark us out of that "recession."
(3) Chalmers' Johnson's chastening book The Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic [The American Empire Project] (New York, NY: Metropolitan, 2003), which argues that the institutions of militarism and empire have bested rationality and democracy in US foreign policy. Here - in a passage (worth quoting at length) that came back to me after reading Kristoff's column - is how Johnson concluded a presentation of that book's thesis in the journal Foreign Policy in Focus last winter (note the line about our impending date with Nemesis, Goddess of Revenge): "In my judgment, American imperialism and militarism are so far advanced and obstacles to its further growth have been so completely neutralized that the decline of the U.S. has already begun. The country is following the path already taken by its erstwhile adversary in the cold war, the former Soviet Union. The U.S.'s refusal to dismantle its own empire of military bases when the menace of the Soviet Union disappeared, combined with its inappropriate response to the blowback of September 11, 2001, makes this decline virtually inevitable......John le Carrι, the novelist most famous for his books on the role of intelligence services in the cold war, writes, 'America has entered one of its periods of historical madness, but this is the worst I can remember: worse than McCarthyism, worse than the Bay of Pigs and in the long term potentially more disastrous than the Vietnam War.' His view is somewhat more optimistic than mine. If it is just a period of madness, like musth in elephants, we might get over it. The U.S. still has a strong civil society that could, at least in theory, overcome the entrenched interests of the armed forces and the military-industrial complex. I fear, however, that the U.S. has indeed crossed the Rubicon and that there is no way to restore Constitutional government short of a revolutionary rehabilitation of American democracy. Without root and branch reform, Nemesis awaits. She is the goddess of revenge, the punisher of pride and arrogance, and the United States is on course for a rendezvous with her" (available online at http://www.zmag.org/ content/ showarticle.cfm?SectionID=11&ItemID=4587).
Empire as a Way of Death
Note to the American people: Here's a sure-fire way to save a major American metropolitan area from an "even chance" of nuclear annihiliation in the next ten years: let's take our soldiers, bases, guns, ships, helicopters, jets, and other expansionist and racist weaponry out of the Islamic World and stop interacting with the Middle East and the rest of the human community through imperial eyes. Finally getting it that "Empire as a Way of Life" (the title of a book by the interesting New Left revisionist historian William Appleman Williams) is suicidal, let's take control of our nation's foreign policy and quit supporting regimes that evoke mass hatred in the Arab world and beyond. Let's stop advancing a narcissistic and disingenuous concept of "democracy" that is richly tailored to the special interests of our imperial ruling class. The Middle East is not "ours" to patrol and possess and neither is the rest of the world. Let's learn about and focus on the social, economic, democratic, and many died security needs (including protection from foreign attack but also from poverty, racism, sexism, mass incarceration, homophobia, police-state repression, thought-control and general hierarchy) of our own populace - the people whose general welfare government officials are supposed to serve and reflect. Following our great revolutionary, demcoratic, and constitutional charters, let's elevate our people's survival over the "elite's" regressive, elitist, authoritarian, and reactionary quest for global dominance.
That's my take on how to deter the nuclear-terrorist threat. I'll be curious to see Kristoff's.
Paul Street is an urban social policy researcher, historian, and anti-empire speaker and writer. His book Empire and Inequality: Writings on America and the World (Boulder, CO: Paradigm Publishers, 2004) will be out next month. You can reach him at pstreet99@sbcglobal.net _________________
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:28 pm
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2005 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., a staunch critic of the federal government's lax immigration and border enforcement policies, said yesterday he would request a briefing from the Justice Department on information it has on plans revealed by WND this week for a nuclear attack on the U.S. by al-Qaida terrorists.
Photo: Rep. Tom Tancredo
Tancredo said he was greatly alarmed by the report and would seek whatever information he could get from the nation's law enforcement authorities either in classified or unclassified reports.
Al-Qaida's plans, known as "America's Hiroshima" according to captured terrorists and terrorist documents, calls for the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons, already in the possession of Osama bin Laden's operatives currently inside the U.S. The agents and arms having been smuggled across the U.S.-Mexico border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups, according to the report originating in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, a premium, online intelligence newsletter published by the founder of WND.
The attack is designed to kill at least 4 million Americans.
Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads, according to the report. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.
In addition to detonating its own nuclear weapons already planted in the U.S., military sources also say there is evidence to suggest al-Qaida is paying former Russian Spetznaz, or special forces operatives, to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons formerly concealed inside the U.S. by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Bin Laden's group is also paying nuclear scientists from Russia and Pakistan to maintain its existing nuclear arsenal and assemble additional weapons with the materials it has invested hundreds of millions in procuring over a period of 10 years.
The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S., which is seen by al-Qaida and its allies as "the Great Satan."
At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from Chechen terrorist allies.
But the most disturbing news is that high-level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan, according to an upcoming book, "The al-Qaida Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant.
According to Williams, former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S. President Bush reportedly went "through the roof" upon hearing the news, prompting him to order his national security team to give nuclear terrorism priority over every other threat to America.
"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."
It is worth noting Bush failed to translate this policy into securing the U.S.-Mexico border through which the nuclear weapons and al-Qaida operatives are believed to have passed with the help of the MS-13 smugglers. He did, however, order the building of underground bunkers away from major metropolitan areas for use by federal government managers following an attack.
Bin Laden, according to Williams, has nearly unlimited funds to spend on his nuclear terrorism plan because he has remained in control of the Afghanistan-produced heroin industry. Poppy production has greatly increased even while U.S. troops are occupying the country, he writes. Al-Qaida has developed close relations with the Albanian Mafia, which assists in the smuggling and sale of heroin throughout Europe and the U.S.
Some of that money is used to pay off the notorious MS-13 street gang between $30,000 and $50,000 for each sleeper agent smuggled into the U.S. from Mexico. The sleepers are also provided with phony identification, most often bogus matricula consular ID cards indistinguishable from Mexico's official ID, now accepted in the U.S. to open bank accounts and obtain driver's licenses.
The Bush administration's unwillingness to secure the U.S.-Mexico border has puzzled and dismayed a growing number of activists and ordinary citizens who see it as the No. 1 security threat to the nation. The Minuteman organization is planning a major mobilization of thousands of Americans this fall designed to shut down the entire 2,000-mile border as it did in April with a 23-mile stretch in Arizona.
According to Williams' sources, thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming "American Hiroshima" plan.
Bin Laden's goal, according to the book, is to kill at least 4 million Americans, 2 million of whom must be children. Only then, bin Laden has said, would the crimes committed by America on the Arab and Muslim world be avenged.
There is virtually no doubt among intelligence analysts al-Qaida has obtained fully assembled nuclear weapons, according to Williams. The only question is how many. Estimates range between a dozen and 70.
The future plan, according to captured al-Qaida agents and documents, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles.
In response to the G2 Bulletin revelations, Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, a citizen action group demanding the U.S. government take control of its borders, said an immediate military presence on the borders is now imperative "to stop the overwhelming influx of unidentified, potentially hostile and seditious persons coming across at an alarming rate."
"Terrorists have carte blanche to carry practically anything they want across our national line at this time," he said. "As ordinary citizens have warned this government for years, the only surprising part about the new information reported here is that nothing apocalyptic from Mexican-border weapons trafficking has yet happened. Terrorism has reared its ugly head in London again these past few days, and as we know all too well we are not immune in this country.
"At this point, the next attempt to attack America at home is just a matter of 'when,' not 'if.' And our unsecured borders have surely contributed to this threat yet our government officials continue to fiddle while our nation's margin of security and safety burns away. The president and Congress had better wake up before they have to answer for another devastating terrorist incursion on our own soil."
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Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:12 pm
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Here we go with Iran again!
quote: Iran could be behind Israel bomb blast: Rumsfeld
quote: Iran could be behind the suicide attack at a shopping mall in
Israel that killed at least four and injured dozens, US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said.
"I wouldn't want to suggest that I know about the attack today, but clearly that's been one of the stated and continuous purposes of Iran, to harm Israel," said Rumsfeld, speaking at a press conference with his Italian counterpart Antonio Martino.
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