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Stuart-Allsop
Joined: 17 Oct 2001
Posts: 12
Location: Santiago, Chile |
 Thu Oct 18, 2001 8:54 pm
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Presidential blitz? Or not?
I just noticed somewhat of a discrepancy: David says that his area in Northern California was blitzed WHILE the President was there, but after he left, so did the blitz.
On the other hand, 3T3L1 says that when the President was in Texas, the chemtrails were NOT around, as long as he was there.
Exactly the opposite.
So there is clearly no relationship at all between chemtrails and the presence of the President.... Which tends to indicate that the President and his entourage just don't care in the least about those trails.... which tends to suggest that they are not chemtrails.... Which tends to suggest that chemtrails do not exist....
If they did exist and were dangerous, the President and his small army of highly important travelling companions would most certainly NEVER be exposed to them! |
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Thermit
Joined: 08 Jul 2000
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Thu Oct 18, 2001 9:23 pm
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Thanks for the info and the diagrams.
They aren't too big.
I think that I may start feature page of the more interesting effects and phenomena that we have explored here, and the drain effect would definately be included.
As far as the President goes, there has never been much correlation one way or the other. I don't think Chemtrails are poison, rather an aerial innoculation intended to protect, so in my way of thinking, there wouldn't be any reason for any modification of operation based on the President's presence, or lack thereof anyway...
Stuart, will those pictures be there for a while? I'd like to get at least one in the Image Database. Also, feel free to add your link to the Link Database. Look for the link upload access in the Member's Area.
By the way, Stuart, do you feel that both of these pictures are the drain thing happening?
 
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Thermit on 10-18-2001] |
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3T3L1
Joined: 08 Mar 2001
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Location: Lubbock, Texas |
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Thu Oct 18, 2001 9:33 pm
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Mr. Allsop--
The Stewart Alsop I'm referring to died in 1974. I think there is another one now, who is a techno-wizard of some sort.
One of the excellent aspects of Thermit's board is, you can edit your posts. If you still wish to get your pictures down to a smaller size, may I suggest using html, like this:
<img src="http://www.digistar.cl/SR111/Drainmast1.jpg" width=433 height=272> or something similar. You probably know this already, but the numbers refer to pixels. There are 37 pixels per centimeter.
Regarding Bush and the disappearance of chemtrails: yes it does seem odd that they were there on the same day he was. I was thinking that they might've gotten the timing off by a day.
Regarding "plane pee": if it can freeze and damage the airplane, why can't it freeze and damage people on the ground?
[Edited 2 times, lastly by 3T3L1 on 10-18-2001] |
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Stuart-Allsop
Joined: 17 Oct 2001
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Location: Santiago, Chile |
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Thu Oct 18, 2001 9:50 pm
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Thermit, I'll leave those picture there indefinitely. They are actually up on the technical web site, and I have no plans of taking that down any time soon, so they shouldn't disappear.
Do I think that both of those are the drain thing? I'd say yes. I may be wrong, but in both cases it looks like it. I can't even positively identify those aircraft, since the images are so fuzzy. If they were clearer, I could probably have a stab at ID, but it's very difficult to tell. However, it certainly looks like the streams are exiting in about the right place for most modern Boeing aircraft, and they certainly behave like streams of liquid.
Someone mentioned the fact that, on the right hand image, the waste stream is kind of "blobby", not constant; I expect that would either be due to turbulence or uneven air flow around the drain mast, or more likely due to uneven water flow inside the aircraft. Or perhaps a combination: aerodynamics around protrusions on aircraft can do strange things. Or maybe it's a case of those famous coffee grinds jamming up the works!
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Stuart-Allsop on 10-18-2001] |
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Stuart-Allsop
Joined: 17 Oct 2001
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Location: Santiago, Chile |
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Thu Oct 18, 2001 10:14 pm
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3T3L1, then it's probably the techno-wizard one that I get confused with, because I mostly get the red-carpet treatment at technolgy trade shows.
Also, thanks for the tip on resizing photos! I'll be using that in a minute.
On your question about "frozen plane pee", yes it will freeze eventually, but all that the aircraft designers care about is that it stays liquid long enough to get totally clear of the fuselage. Once its clear, they don't care any more. So it will freeze at some point downstream, probably a few meters behind the aircraft tail. But by then, it should be fairly well misted into smallish drops, so it will probably freeze into little balls, not large solid chunks. Those will slowly fall towards the ground, and will melt and evaporate (or may be even sublimate) on the way down, as they reach warmer air. The waste water should never actually fall to the ground as ice or even water. It is supposed to evaporate in the air, long before it gets down to ground level.
But every now and then you do read about a large chunk that froze up, right on the drainmast itself, and then broke away and fell to the ground, frightening some poor soul out of their shoes! Or worse.... That can happen if the drain gets partially blocked (coffee grinds?), and the water does not exit properly. Instead of flowing out smoothly, it just leaks out slowly, and freezes into a solid chunk. When the chunk gets too big, it breaks off, and falls.
Hope that helps.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Stuart-Allsop on 10-18-2001] |
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Stuart-Allsop
Joined: 17 Oct 2001
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Location: Santiago, Chile |
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Thu Oct 18, 2001 10:24 pm
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I found some photos that show the actual drainmast itself:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=113005
Look under the left wing, right in between the engine and the undercarriage (wheels), and you'll see a little thingy sticking down. That's not a radio antenna; its the drain mast. Here's another one:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=018252
That one is a bit harder to see, but it's there, just under the shadow of the engine. You can also see the aft drainmast on that photo (off to the right of the centreline, underneath the number 8 door [right rear door]), as well as two radio antennas (one close to the nose, more or less under the number 1 door, and the other about two thirds the way back on the fuselage. Both are on the center line of the fuselage, while the drains are not.)
And one more:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=025518
It's real clear on that one, just in front of the left wing root. A pretty good close up.
Now, if you compare those photos with the "plane pee" photos, you'll see that the waste water is coming exactly from the location of the drainmasts.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by theseeker on 10-19-2001] |
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Stuart-Allsop
Joined: 17 Oct 2001
Posts: 12
Location: Santiago, Chile |
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Thu Oct 18, 2001 10:33 pm
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Damn! Those photos don't show up! They seem to be protected in some way on the site where they are located. Anyway, here are the three links to the three photos:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=113005
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=018252
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=025518
And then there is also this one, which I thought was real interesting:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=189790
That shows what a fuel dump looks like! That stuff spraying out the tube between the inboard and outboard ailerons is jet fuel. Also, notice how it does not spray out smoothly, but rather gets "blobby" and atomised, just like the waste water photo? that is due to the complex aerodynamics around the airframe.
I thought that was well worth while showing here, so that chemtrailers can see what a fuel dump looks like, so they won't confuse one with "spraying". |
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Location: Damnit...I'm a doctor jim |
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Fri Oct 19, 2001 7:05 am
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WOW !
Thanks for trying to post those Stuart...the fuel dump is a great pic...I tried to repost your photos above but seems they have some sort of digital water mark...
T/S |
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