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Alright, Lets try another approach here. PostFri May 18, 2007 3:12 pm  Reply with quote  

Say I want to not debunk them. Say I want to see what they are, and document them. To not prove they are contrails. But to maybe even prove they ARE chemtrails. Before I agree to this, I need to ask ONE question. I noticed a number of you said you don't know what it is for, but this is the question......


Do you think the government is trying to kill you with these things, PERSONALLY, and that you get sick, throw up, headaches, EVERYTIME they are around?

That is my question. Reason I asked is because I don't believe they can affect you right away if they are anything, being it would take a while for the particles to get down here from the up down, side etc motion of the atmosphere. So answer me that question, and I'll see about not believe they are contrails, and more lean toward research what they could be. Ok, I'm done you may answer.
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PostFri May 18, 2007 5:57 pm  Reply with quote  

Quote from K.M.
I don't believe they can affect you right away if they are anything, being it would take a while for the particles to get down here from the up down, side etc "

It would seem reasonable to conclude this toxic matter has been reaching earth's surface for a good many years since this secretive multi purpose program has been in operation for ten plus years. On the north east coast I am not positively aware that chemtrails are having a negative effect on human health. (That does not mean that it is not having such an effect) I simply don't know. Many living on the west coast have reported numerous illnesses that they feel certain are related to chemtrails. What we need is medical diagnosising and laboratory analysis from non partial sources. The web site http://www.carnicom.com has reported aluminum oxide and barium as well as many other substances are being distributed world wide, being sprayed from planes. This I am sure of, when numerous chemical particals are sprayed into our breathing space it can't be good news for our bodies. Idea
P.S. A friend, about the age of 30 recently told me, upon having a medical exam her doctor said her barium level was quite high. hmmmmmm
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PostFri May 18, 2007 7:33 pm  Reply with quote  

Why have you started a new thread? Why the sudden change in approach? You are now acknowledging that chemtrails are real. What happened? Do you still plan on addressing the other threads that you have been involved in?
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PostSat May 19, 2007 2:00 am  Reply with quote  

This is another approach. If I want to study them, why not learn other's thoughts.

People on other forums say this.

"OMG chemtrails are back today. I was fine yesterday till I looked up, and saw all of them today. Im throwing up, dizzy, and everything today sao they are at it again.

I dont think thats true, but those are more fear monglers. They couldn't effect u that fast. So its like hypochondriac.
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PostWed Dec 12, 2007 11:53 pm  Reply with quote  

Old thread I know.

Some people say chemtrail near the clouds, but there are no natural clouds - even if chemtrails are only contrails all is man made contrails even then! This should be enough to take action and use existing newer tech in planes so no contrails are made at all.

One thing is certain I am sick of seeing total (with crap visibility) whiteout white skies instead of total clear blue skies or blue skies with clouds. Instead so called clouds are just man made aerosols wheter or not they are chemtrails.
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That exactly right PostThu Dec 13, 2007 6:27 am  Reply with quote  

I will pull no punches for our corrupt governments. They are spraying chemicals and biologicals that are illegal according to Geneva convention. All we have to do is go up and collect samples from the trails themselves and the ugly people doing this will no longer be able to say we have not identified the source. We have already found proof by collecting fallout on the ground. Many samples collected in glass jars have been analyzed and found to have toxic and biological content. Now we need to prove were it came from. Sports fliers, parachuters and pilots filling in hours have left my area after the small airport closed in my area. Surly someone in this group have resources left in their are area.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0712/S00060.htm

Go to rense.com and read the article that the Pentagon is going to start spraying human experimentation again. This is a lie they never stopped. You can find and article on the net that deals with Canadian citizens up in arms about a bi0ological sprayed by the United States over Canada. This happened way after they claimed to have discontinued human experimentation. They have been doing this crap steady here and the queen of canada isn't going to step in and protect us. The world courts are going to continue to turn a blind eye too.

http://thefilter.ca/articles/canada/us-admits-bio-weapons-tests-in-canada/

Yes they got caught, that is why this site exists.

The only approach is the direct one, we can't fool around with what's going on over our heads.
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PostThu Dec 13, 2007 10:14 pm  Reply with quote  

Yes it is sad to know most people believe what they are told. That biological warfare testing has now stopped. Yeah sure any one caught red handed would say exctly that...no choice but to.

You're right we need action and fast, that meand complete documented evidence including video footage of all the samples taken during flight with written documents and lab reports on the findings preferably from government approved labs or well known and respected university labs.

Let us not forget Independent Swiss forensic scientists confirmed biological and chemical warfare has been used in Iraq by the US military. One reasy why buildings left in tact were destroyed when no threats were neutralised in the attempt to destroy the evidence.

And to think how docile Americans are to genetically engineered foods they eat that are made by the same biological warfare engineers.
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PostSat Dec 15, 2007 6:09 pm  Reply with quote  

mr. kevin.

there is tons of info. in this forum.

before you start asking questions you might want to "browse" around and see what you may find.

you would be more than surprised to find lot more than what you may have thought you could find.

but basically it comes down to common sense and one's mind of their own.

some people have it and some don't,

and of course all the evidence in the world wouldn't change that would it?
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