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AirAmerica's Morning Sedition getting kicked off the air
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More Devolution in action.
AirAmerica’s Morning Sedition with Marc Maron and Mark Riley is getting kicked off the air. This Friday, Dec 16th, is the last show. This show was the most popular on AAR. We went to a live broadcast from a club in Hoboken, and the place was PACKED. Basically, they told him to tune down the blasting and parody of Religion and Drugs on the show. Maron would joke about pot smoking and tripping constantly, and said how he thought Linear drugs were the danger to society, not the psychedelic ones. He also called the current nut cases in power, “The Christian Fascist Zombie Brigade”. In the last few months, he was attacking Joe Lieberman as being a Jewish Nazi (Maron is Jewish). This did not go well with Dan Goldberg, CEO of AAR.
Seems like Partnership for a Drug Free America gives BIG BUCKS in advertising dollars to AAR, and many religious people were calling in complaining about the content, which was Hilarious, Sexy, provocative, and Thought Provoking. Freakin’ Jerry Springer stays on, but Maron goes. Go figure? The media is getting more and more conservative, and even "Liberal" networks like AAR, NPR, and Pacifica are towing the line. I remember a time when the same forces that are de-volving the human race now, were doing the same then. The Internet is perhaps one of the last places where censorship doesn't exist, and that's a matter of time before they control that with Microsoft's TCPA/Palladium Horror Show. Maybe Short Wave Radio will be the last method of communication before handing discs and notes to each other.
The characters on the show and skits like Lawton Smalls/Planet Bush chief Reporter, Cardinal Milkington/Arch Dialysis of the disgraced Church, Marc the Shark/Radio Halliburton, Sammy The Stem Cell, The War on Brains, and many others, kept us in stitches on the way to work. Cindy Sheehan loved talking on their show, and he had many important interviews with very intelligent people.
He got 100,000 signatures to keep the show on the air, but to no avail. I guess Partnership For A drugged America gave more advertising $$$$$s than Maron’s salary.
So now they are promising him a show, in the middle of the night in Los Angeles, but there is still no word on what that is. They are stringing him along. My opinion is that they are promising him something, but will never deliver. This way, he won’t say anything outrageous, for fear he won’t get re-signed. If he does get re-signed, it will be a toned down Marc Maron.
Next thing we'll see Mike Malloy getting kicked off. He talks freely about JFK/CIA, Wellstone assassinated, 9/11 an inside job, and he doesn't like Hillary or Bill Clinton too much
Catch the last shows 6AM – 9 AM Monday through Friday, EST
http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
or Morning Sedition Archives
http://www.airamericaplace.com/archive.php?mode=show&id=3&page=1
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Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:21 pm
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Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
ooh, they're red, white and blue.
And when the band plays "Hail To The Chief",
oh, they point the cannon at you, Lord,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no senator's son,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one, no,
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, why don't they help themselves? oh.
But when the taxman come to the door,
Lord, the house look a like a rummage sale, yes,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no millionaire's son.
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one, no.
Yeh, some folks inherit star spangled eyes,
ooh, they send you down to war, Lord,
And when you ask them, how much should we give,
oh, they only answer, more, more, more, yoh,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no military son,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate one, no no no,
It ain't me, it ain't me,
I ain't no fortunate son, son son son
Oops..forgot I can't post lyrics or I'll get tossed in the Rendering Pot..
Too F#cking Bad, O' Mighty Wermacht..I hope I give you the $#@#! when you eat me..
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Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:45 pm
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I'm never up early enough to catch that show but this pisses me off still.
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Jack s!@# has changed since Marvin belted this out,30 plus years ago. Marvin Gaye. Mercy Mercy Me Oh, mercy mercy me
Oh, things ain't what they used to be
No, no
Where did all the blue sky go?
Poison is the wind that blows
From the north, east, south, and sea
Oh, mercy mercy me
Oh, things ain't what they used to be
No, no
Oil wasted on the oceans and upon our seas
Fish full of mercury
Oh, mercy mercy me
Oh, things ain't what they used to be
No, no
Radiation in the ground and in the sky
Animals and birds who live nearby are dying
Oh, mercy mercy me
Oh, things ain't what they used to be
What about this overcrowded land?
How much more abuse from man can you stand?
My sweet Lord
My sweet Lord
My sweet Lord
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It is very disappointing, but I contacted one of the characters Jim Earl, who does Cardinal Milkington, The War of Brains, and other characters, and he may do something with Noble Gas, so things are not completely dark.
I suspect Maron may start doing Internet Radio ro even Satellite. He mentioned it a few times in the last few weeks. Sad, because we met him twice in person, and he is a regular guy...Funny and sensitive. He is taking it hard. The chemistry betewwn Maron and Riley was great. Riley is a veteran of Black Liberal talk radio 35 years in the New York area, the "straight" man, always with every fact at the moment it is needed. Maron is a comic genius, and is in the tradition of Lenny Bruce.
It was literally hijacked. I can see why Alex Jones goes on Short Wave and Internet Radio. Slow buildup to popularity, but answers to NO ONE.
F**k corporate media. Malloy better watch his back.
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I wonder if the Jones Radio Network could pick him up. They do Ed Schultz and Stepahine Miller. .. They kick AAR ass anway.. |
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quote:
Originally posted by tranz
I wonder if the Jones Radio Network could pick him up. They do Ed Schultz and Stepahine Miller. .. They kick AAR ass anway..
That's a good suggestion tranz. Mike Malloy would even be good on Jones Network. I lost all respect for Al Franken when he said to his listeners on Nov 4th last year, "The election was not rigged, so Liberals get over it".
Another note...Morning Sedition used to make fun of Al Franken.....Hmmmmmmmmmm? Wonder that, with the Drug Talk, Goofing around, biting satire, and incredible interviews, that Franken was jealous? Maron was 10x funnier than Franken, and the audience knew it.
BTW, do you have a link to get to Alex personally. I would like to cross reference him and Marc, and maybe them in touch with each other.
You never know.
Here's one of the Radio Halliburton Skits with Marc the Shark. I'll be archiving the entire run shortly
http://www.noble-gas.com/04292005.mp3
Here are some archives. Check out "the War on Brains"
http://www.thesnotgreensea.com/
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Interesting Blog by Morning Sedition's original producer:
http://petty-larseny.blogspot.com/2005/11/morning-sedition.html
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So, Danny Goldberg is killing Morning Sedition.
Sedition, if you haven't heard of it, is Air America Radio's morning-drive program, hosted by comedian Marc Maron and co-host Mark Riley. As its first producer, I helped create and launch the show in April 2004 and produced it for its first year. If you've seen the HBO documentary, Left of the Dial, you know that this was an extremely trying process.
When Goldberg started as Air America Radio CEO this year, he made it clear almost immediately that he didn't like (or get, depending on your view) Sedition and that he wanted, at the very least, to make substantive changes. Landing in Goldberg's crosshairs strained the previously volatile, but also rewarding, relationship between myself and Maron and, especially after the network asked me to help Rachel Maddow create and launch her new 5 a.m. show, I ended up reducing my involvement in Sedition, handing over most of the responsibility to the hyper-capable Brendan McDonald and focusing my efforts more on the long-term planning required for the summer's slate of live remote broadcasts.
Eventually, it became clear to me that this set-up wasn't infinitely tenable. I told the network I wanted to stay on in some other capacity. My superiors there felt the same way and sought other ways to utilize me. Goldberg, however, had no interest in keeping me, so I was laid off in September.
All of which is not the point of my story, but a good-faith effort to disclose that, yes, I have a number of axes that could use grinding if I were so inclined.
I don't feel so inclined (okay, I do, but not so much any more and, in any case, I'm trying not to indulge). Maron is pretty damn close to a national treasure. His level of emotional intelligence is off the charts and he applies it to issues of politics and society in ways that make his work the comedic equivalent of "Freakonomics" or "Tipping Point," his synthesis of insights (his own and others) into how people work individually and societally is just about that revolutionary.
And it's piss-your-pants funny. The New Haven Advocate came pretty close, I think, to nailing what made Sedition good and valuable to AAR, and in general. When Goldberg arrived at Air America, everyone -- including him -- acknowledged that Morning Sedition had been neglected by the network.
Al Franken and, to a lesser extent, Randi Rhodes, had received most of the promotional push (including the scant paid advertising AAR purchased as well as the free media). Sedition had a couple strikes against it -- it started off with a mismatched team and only really took off once one of the three initial hosts left the program. Also, Maron had never done radio before and Riley had only done local radio. Maron was the lead host and needed a few months to find his groove -- which he did in preternaturally quick time.
The biggest strike against us, though, was that we were operating in the most competitive daypart -- morning drive. And no one knew we existed. Despite that, however, and despite Goldberg's public rationales, Sedition usually did relatively okay in the ratings. When it stumbled, there was usually some clear reason for it or it was part of a larger pattern (affecting AAR or talk-radio overall). So, we needed to let people know our show existed. And this wasn't another case of a show feeling neglected and making excuses; all the executives agreed, and said, in essence, that it wasn't possible to put a show on in the nation's number-one market, in the most competitive daypart and expect it to succeed without spending a single dollar to let people know it existed. To his credit, Goldberg brought in people to remedy that. Unfortunately, for reasons beyond my ken, the additional staff didn't yield any additional attention for or promotion of the show. We were, in fact, told to wait. First a new logo had to be developed. Then an overall network-marketing plan would have to be developed. Only then, finally, would the network be able to market Morning Sedition properly. If that was true, why cancel the show before allowing the still-unseen marketing to debut? If it wasn't true, why should we believe what we're being told now?
Goldberg's claim that he's dividing the morning-drive slot into two shows of radically different sensibilities rather than retain a sharp, critically acclaimed comedian at a time when fans of Howard Stern (some of whom had already discovered us and joined the ranks of our listeners) would be looking at alternatives, in order to boost ratings, is both laughable and transparently false. The reality is he dislikes Air America's comedic elements. Rather than more of Sedition's comedy, Goldberg wanted the show to interview former NYC mayoral candidate Mark Green.
After I was gone, Green started showing up on Sedition with such frequency that it led the consistently-favorable magazine TimeOut NY to make its first negative comments about the show, with a dig about Green's frequency as a guest.
I'm glad that my friend Rachel is going to get more exposure. She's enough of a star that it's probably only a matter of time until Air America somehow fumbles and lets her slip away. But it's a huge disappointment that Goldberg is rejecting the advice of virtually everyone who's weighed in on this issue in order to kill a show that's been provocative, unique, smart, brave, personal, vulnerable, honest and as funny as gallows humor can be.
I hope Goldberg isn't full of s!@# when he says they're trying to find a way to keep Maron on the air at Air America. I'd be interested to see how Maron evolved as a solo act on the air. And Maron's is a perspective (that should be plural, actually) you just don't get from any of the other lefty-ish, progressive hosts. No slur against them, they all say important things and expose important truths, but Maron does more than that, he does so with a singular voice.
And silencing that voice just because he doesn't hear it would make Goldberg just as bad as the people he claims to oppose.
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The Nazis let them have their fun...untill to many people started waking upout of the Matrix.
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Blogs and more notes, including people who think Goldberg is a mole
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/11/air_americas_ne.html
November 01, 2005
Air America's Next Big Mistake?
It looks like Air America is about to lose one of their best on-air personalities, Marc Maron. There's been no official announcement, but on his show, Morning Sedition, Maron has repeatedly said he's probably on his way out. And yesterday he said it's unlikely he'll be part of the Morning Sedition air team (with radio veteran Mark Riley) after this month. And they're promoting their live remote at O'Neal's in the Upper West Side this Thursday as their "last live appearance."
Why would Maron leave? Or why would Air America let go of the funniest guy on their talent roster? Best guess-- deadlocked contract negotiations.
When Air America went on the air over a year and a half ago, a lot of us in radio were dismayed that a new talk network would go on the air with so many air personalities and writers who made their mark in television instead of radio. Not that media cross-pollination in general is such a bad idea, but just that when a start-up radio network was trying to do something SO new (a national liberal talk network) AND they were also attempting to reinvent the medium at the same time by leaning so heavily on TV talent instead of loading up the schedule with radio veterans.
The big exceptions were South Florida's leftist talk bulldog Randi Rhodes who's held down the late afternoon slot since the beginning, and then a few months later acerbic career talker Mike Malloy who was tacked onto the late night end of the schedule. Those programs were the only ones done in the traditional talk radio manner-- one host on the air brings up issues, vents, and takes calls. All the other shows were more experimental-- with multiple hosts, many guests, and only a few (if any) calls. And all these programs featured one or more hosts best known for their work in TV or film.
Air America's biggest experiments were their two morning shows, both featuring teams of three hosts-- "Morning Sedition" and "Unfiltered." Morning Sedition came into its own after one host left the show (more on that in a minute). But Unfiltered only survived the first year. Two of the hosts, Rachel Maddow and Public Enemy's Chuck D now have their own programs (Maddow's early early morning show which now runs from 5 to 6 a.m. is a tight and timely review of the news well worth a listen). But the third other co-host Lizz Winstead (who was also one of the key programming-creative figures at the dawn of the network) is gone. Best known as one of the creator's of TV's "The Daily Show," Winstead was the biggest architect of the "television-vision" for Air America. And now she's in the middle of a lawsuit to claim unpaid wages from the network. While I don't know the details as far as which side seems to be in the right, the filing of the suit revealed that they were paying Winstead a quarter million a year for her services. And you wonder why they're having money troubles...
Oh and speaking of television, Unfiltered was replaced by TV crapmaster Jerry Springer. It's easy to forget that Springer was a politician before he became the host of one of the most inane hours in television. His Air America talk show is a serious one featuring his heartfelt leftist views on political issues. However, it is BORING. It's traditional talk radio run by a host who has no understanding of the medium. It's so boring that I don't have anything more to say about it, except to hope it's not long for this world. It's a waste of valuable radio frequencies across the country. And let's hope they're not spending a lot of money to keep Springer's big name on the schedule.
If you're talking to someone unfamiliar with talk radio or leftist media and mention "Air America," they likely won't know what you're talking about. Then tell them it's that new talk network with Al Franken, and then they'll probably recall hearing something about it. Best known as a TV writer and comedian, Franken has become a political media superstar. He's just finished another lefty book sure to rise up the best-seller list, and seems to be headed toward a U.S. Senate run in 2008 in Minnesota.
His mid-day show has been the flagship show for the fledgling network since its inception. Teamed with public radio's Katherine Lanpher, Franken's program settled into a groove pretty quickly as a breezy political talk show with plenty of writers, researchers and politicians discussing the issues of the day. And of course, there's always heaping helpings of Franken style humor to be found in between the serious bits. However, despite his big name and notable accomplishments in the comedy realm, Franken's constant retelling of bad jokes and his just plain hokey sense of humor doesn't often make for cutting edge radio.
And what's worse, Lanpher has left the show and Franken seems to be floundering a bit without her there to keep the show on track and keep Franken's expansive ego in check. Franken now is using the technical and production staffers around him as comedy foils and it's a little painful to hear. That said, his appearance on Letterman the other night was quite funny and almost electric. It all made it painfully obvious that Franken's charisma doesn't translate well to radio or the long form medium of a three hour talk show. And how will he fare on the campaign trail? Or on the Senate floor? You gotta wonder.
Which all gets me back to the subject at hand, Marc Maron. If you happened to see the excellent and insightful HBO documentary on the beginning of Air America, "Left of the Dial," you saw the good and bad of Mr. Maron at the dawn of his radio career. Previously Maron had been a stand-up comic (and author) best known for his appearances on cable and late night talk TV. Painfully neurotic and unsure of himself, Maron is seen in early scenes in the film as someone out of his element, having no idea how to navigate three hours of radio five days a week, as well as having to adjust to working pre-dawn hours every day. And in the beginning Morning Sedition show was a mess, with three separate personalities trying to find some kind of chemistry. Just to hear all three of them conduct an interview or take a call kinda hurt.
And it was plain to hear (and see in the documentary) that there wasn't a lot of love between Maron and one of this co-hosts, Sue Ellicott. A former BBC TV commentator (and frequent panelist on the NPR comedy show abortion known as "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me"), Ellicott didn't have much of a stomach for Maron's fast-paced acid humor. My favorite line in the whole movie occurs when the show is live and Ellicott tries to smooth out and "balance" something Maron had said in an interview-- and Maron fires back: "Who's side are you on British Lady?" Perhaps more than Randi Rhodes' first-day slap fight with Ralph Nader, that moment was a telling blow that Air America was going to be nothing like the limp-wristed and neutered political coverage of NPR. Thank god.
Since Ellicott has left the show, the partnership of Marc and Mark has gained fame and followers across the country. Each local remote appearance is packed with fans. They're a good team. Co-host Mark Riley's decades of newsroom experience grounds Maron's scattershot rants, and his "everyman" quality makes him the perfect straight man for Maron's rabid wit. And then you have some solid wacky writers (including comedian-writer Kent Jones who adds his stable of characters and impersonations into the mix), and the end result is a dependable helping of news and chuckles in every show. It's a radio program that offers up-to-the minute information, historical context, and wild-ass funny bits. And any moment can yield an impromptu dose of Maron's off-the-cuff self-obsessed rambling about his life. Somehow, it's about as good as morning radio gets in this era of incompetent and malevolent governance. It would be a shame to lose it.
Unlike anyone else on Air America (including Franken), Maron slams the idiocy and evil of the Bush administration AND makes you laugh at the same time (which isn't easy). If you can imagine combining the indignant anger of Mike Malloy (without the froth) with the dark comedy of Bill Hicks and the over-the-top irreverence of Andy Breckman, you get an idea of Maron's talk radio persona. Air America has grown a real radio talent with Maron, and while nobody on the outside seems to know the exact details of why they may soon part, you'd have to hope that Air America wouldn't let loose one of their best on-air assets at this point in the game.
You don't have to look far on the internet to find the details of the money troubles Air America has had since the very beginning. And Maron had a fairly successful career before Morning Sedition, and one would think that the radio show has probably given that career a boost. He also has a long-distance marriage (to his wife in California) because he has to be in New York for his Air America duties. If he's holding out for a healthy sum, it's easy to understand why. Maron has become a valuable asset to the network, and must he know that. One can only imagine what they pay Franken, and it's assumed that he's probably only going to be around for so long anyway. Air America should invest in their future, if they want to have one.
If you're not familiar with Morning Sedition or Maron's radio efforts, have a listen to some MP3 bits from yesterday's show. It ain't the funniest one I've ever heard, but hey it's fresh.
Here's Maron discussing possibly leaving the show:
Maron Appreciates The Love- MP3
Maron's Cat Giveaway- MP3
O'Neal's Announcement- MP3
Danny Goldberg Email Plea-Belly Dancing Call- MP3
And here's some comedy bits from yesterday's program:
The INews 5000 WiFi Headline translator- MP3
The Monday Job Listing- MP3
Morning Remembrance with Mort Mortenson- MP3
Liberal Marching Orders-Halloween Tripping Story- MP3
And here's yesterday's show in full, without commercials.
Morning Sedition 10-31-05- MP3
And if you're not up early in the morning, or you can't hear Air America where you live, you can download Morning Sedition (without ads) every day right here, and even easier, you can podcast it with links from this page.
Maron is now saying that he may occasionally be part of Morning Sedition in some small way, and he occasionally hints that there's some small chance he'll remain as co-host. But it's important to remember, even if you love the host of any show or love the station that carries it, radio is really a cutthroat business. It's rare that a radio personality remains on the air when contract negotiations are failing. And you can hear in Maron's on-air discussions of the matter that he's being very careful about what he says, and what he doesn't say. If you piss off the boss and you're on your way out, you're likely to be off the air in as soon as they can drag you out of the studio. It happens all the time.
Ongoing online conversations regarding Marc Maron leaving Air America can be found on the Morning Sedition Blog, or the Morning Sedition Message Board. An online petition to keep Marc Maron on Morning Sedition can be found here, and the official email address to plea for Maron's survival at the network belongs to the Air America CEO, Danny Goldberg (dannyg@airamericaradio.com).
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Maron really ripped into the CEos and executives after they put a goon on air. I'll post the audio tonight.
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Here it is. The final 10 minutes of the next to last show. Maron was on Majority Report tonight and said it was all over the station, and they might not let him in the building to do the last show tomorrow. I saw Maron's good friend Bill Hicks come through, or perhaps a Lenny Bruce, or John Lennon. It is very sad and disturbing because he is one of the true comedic political geniuses of our time. With Mike Malloy getting censored on 9/11, we are witnessing the takeover of AirAmerica by Stealth Neo-Cons posing as liberals. One thing is for sure, Marc Maron is not going quietly.
http://www.noble-gas.com/madmaron.mp3
A Long Blog, but a LOT of people are aghast
http://petty-larseny.blogspot.com/2005/11/morning-sedition.html
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Today was Howard Stern's and Morning Sedition's last day on Land Radio.
How synchronistic!! 
I don't have the clip right now, but Maron mentioned that the FCC was involved in this. I think it was the Religion and Bush bashing, the Drug and sex talk, and Danny Goldberg being a Neo-Con in disguise. Maron was a risk for AAR, and the Partnership for a Drug Free America commercials paid more, not to mention as Maron said "Progressive Utopians with no sense of humor"
I contacted Mike Malloy today to get in touch with Alex Jones.
Here 's the final 52 seconds:
http://www.noble-gas.com/maronend.mp3
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