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soulcore
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A new type of trail?
 Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:46 pm
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I’ve been noticing a new and rather strange type of trail here in Dallas.
I first noticed it back in December…
I ask because today I saw something new and weird. A pair of planes, flying South as I was headed West on 635. One was leaving a “normal” semi-persistent contrail, while the other was leaving a VERY long and very distinct stringy trail.
The non-persistent trail is hard to make out, but it’s there.
I coudn't stop to get good pics as it's dangerous enough driving on Texas highways, but it looked exactly like the one pictured at the top of this post.
Anyone else notice these or see something similar?
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BigJoe
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Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:02 pm
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I've been noticing this type of trail for a few years now. Everytime that I've seen them, they are ALWAYS being laid down by the big KC-135 four engined stratotankers. These somewhat unusual trails are not quite as commonplace as the "normal" trails that we so frequeltly see befouling our skies. If you look at this with a good pair of binocculars, you will notice that the trails from this type of spraying all come from the engines. Each of the four engines injects TWO trails into the atmosphere... one is the "core" trail, a more or less straight and somewhat stable trail, which is surrounded by a thinner trail, which actually "twists" around the core trail, very often in RINGS! With a good pair of binocs, and the right conditions in the upper atmosphere, it is rather fascinating watching these two trails being laid down by the big jet, expand, and then seperate from each other. Very often the "twisting" trail will turn into rings, surrounding the core trail, and as the rings expand faster than the core trail does, there is absolutely no mistaking that there are four sets of two trails here being laid down by this massive aircraft! I've seen this many times over Western New York, and at least from this observers standpoint, this type of spraying is always done by the big KC-135 tankers. I've also noticed that this unusual type of spraying very often comes just before a long period of very heavy spraying, which then is done by the modified Boeing 767 tankers.
As your photos point out, this type of spray doesn't stay visible in the atmosphere very long. As it usually preceeds, and/or very often takes place during the early stages of the heavy spraying that follows, the belief here is that this is some sort of "prep" mixture... some type of chemical(s) that interact with the "usual" chemicals that are sprayed shortly afterwards. And as I'm sure that you've noticed, these trails don't spread out.
Watching these unusual trails being laid down by these massive four engined tankers, and with a good pair of binocculars, is an awesome sight indeed. Looks like something from out of a big budget, high tech special effects sci-fi film! |
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newtonnjd
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Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:48 am
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Looks like a trail I photoed 30th Apr last year:
Ghost Plane
And from your pics it looks like the plane in your case was also hard to see?
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newtonnjd
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Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:00 am
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Notice the differences between the formation of this type of dense, stringy trail and a regular contrail:
Normally the plane is as conspicuous as the trail, and the trail builds to it's maximum density a few plane lengths behind the plane, not directly on it.
Something's not right.. |
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Louis Aubuchont
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newtonnjd
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Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:11 am
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We get those kinds of CT trail's here over Maine and New Hampshire once in awhile and I agree with Big Joe that it's usually the big military type tankers that are responsible for making them, the KC-135's and I've also seen a KC-10A leave this kind of trail and something that resembles a modified 767 or 707, it's definitely a big wide body Boeing that's been reworked specifically for aerosol operations.
But in my case (see my pics above) you could barely make out a plane, and it looks to be the same in soulcare's pics. When you've seen these trails, I take it the plane was easily seen? |
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Louis Aubuchont
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DELETED DUE TO THE POLICY OF CTC IN LETTING THE DEBUNKERS AND TROUBLEMAKERS LIKE "FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe" AKA, "MAY41970' OVERRUN THE SITE.
FOR THAT REASON I WILL NOT HAVE MY POST ARCHIVED HERE AND I NO LONGER WISH TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SITE
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BigJoe
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Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:28 pm
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Sometimes those KC-135's are flying so high, and that massive trail is so huge, at least it is as it comes out of those four engines, that to the naked eye, all that I can see is a billowing trail and no jet. It's only when I look at this with my binocculars that I can see the aircraft that's making the trail... without the binocs, it looks like this jet is invisible.
ET brings up a good point here. Perhaps it is this unusual type of spraying (at least not all that common here in the northeast), that is responsible for the webstrands. And by the way... I did see an unusual webstrand here last summer. It was in my back yard... stretched from one tree to another and was about ten feet in length, I remember thinking to myself at the time... "what an amazing feat for a spider to do something like THAT!" In order to get to my bird feeder to fill it up, I had to walk through this strand and therefore break it, and I do remember that it seemed to be unusually strong for a simple "spider web strand".
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hakkor
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Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:30 pm
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The pics at this link are new. The path the chemtrail is making projects ahead of the trail and then the trail fills the gap. The poster got the order of the pics loaded backwards on the page but then you could have figured that out anyway. This is posted by a young lady that has no idea what is going on and neither do I.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/spider818/ |
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BigJoe
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Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:42 pm
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Those photos are a good capture of the mysterious "black lines" that so many people are spotting all over the world, within the past several years. I've noticed them to be a not uncommon phenomena on days of very heavy spraying, and it appears that those photos were shot during one of those days. I've seen them project out in front of the jets on a number of occasions also. They are DEFINATELY NOT shadows of any sort,, as I, along with many others, have seen, and photographed them when the sun has been projecting it's light on the side of the shadow, and NOT the side of chemtrail, therefore making it impossible for this to be an absence of sunlight cast by the long billowing trail.
There are a number of theories on what these "black lines" are, one of the more popular ones being a sort of holographic projection, which then gets into all sorts of speculation.
By the way, those are "normal" chemtrails in those photos, and not the kind that are usually laid down by the massive 4-engined mega sprayers that Soulcore is talking about. |
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Louis Aubuchont
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DELETED DUE TO THE POLICY OF CTC IN LETTING THE DEBUNKERS AND TROUBLEMAKERS LIKE "FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe" AKA, "MAY41970' OVERRUN THE SITE.
FOR THAT REASON I WILL NOT HAVE MY POST ARCHIVED HERE AND I NO LONGER WISH TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SITE
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chickenlittle
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| DNA strands
Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:05 am
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I believe I left some pics of these very same type of trails and I say they remind me of DNA strands,I have some pics from the summer I will try and leave a few again.They are pretty interesting veiwing.
The dark line weirdness I have just noticed for the first time today,and the circle trail. |
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chickenlittle
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| here is a pic of the same type......
Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:16 pm
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Here is a pic that resembles the one posted above I think,like I said that it looks like a DNA strand
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cheers,chicky |
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