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Thermit
Joined: 08 Jul 2000
Posts: 3136
Location: Texas |
Art's Latest Chemtrail
Fri Mar 08, 2002 4:18 pm
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http://www.artbell.com/contrails2.html
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A pod, or nacelle, is clearly seen to have been added on the plane to the fuselage near the nose, on the starboard side. That pod released a FIFTH trail, above the level of the wings, rearward; the engines left the usual 4 trails. The same plane made repeated passes over Tucson and a point about half-way to Phoenix, for a period of over 3 1/2 hours!, the same ground-track, all the while laying down the same dense white persistent trails, which had strange coherence and straightness and cohesiveness, unlike ANY trails I have ever seen or photographed in some 40 years as a photographer of aircraft and sky phenomena.
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
Posts: 2501
Location: right here |
Sat Mar 09, 2002 12:58 am
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Great picture!
strange coherence and straightness and cohesiveness
Fascinating... |
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eyesopen
Joined: 25 Apr 2001
Posts: 663
Location: Nashville TN |
Sat Mar 09, 2002 7:47 pm
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Opinions? T/S, you have an comment?... |
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plutobeach
Joined: 04 May 2001
Posts: 17
Location: South FL |
Sat Mar 09, 2002 11:49 pm
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Typical fear mongoring by those who have an interest in making money off conspiracy theories.
On first glance, it looked to me like a typical flying testbed for smaller, business jet, regional jet jet engines.
Engine manufacturers buy or lease beat up old airliners, like the old 707's, then bolt engines onto them for airborne testing. GE tested the massive 777 engine on an old 747. The original 747 engine was bolted onto a B52. Many smaller engines are tested like the picture above.
Most likely the aircraft in question was based somewhere in the southwest area. Good weather for airborne flight test.
My bet it is based in Phoenix Arizona. Any chance this picture could be it?
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=065528
here is another working for Pratt& Whitney
http://ncas.ottawa.com/2000/fly/b720.htm
You are looking at engine flight test, nothing more
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Thermit
Joined: 08 Jul 2000
Posts: 3136
Location: Texas |
Sat Mar 09, 2002 11:57 pm
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Thanks, plutobeach, that is likely it. Never seen that before.
Where did the "fear mongoring" come in? I didn't notice any. |
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
Posts: 3403
Location: Damnit...I'm a doctor jim |
Sun Mar 10, 2002 12:35 am
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would this be "fear mongering" with photoshop ?
this one from don's house of erotic rabbit toys...
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Thermit
Joined: 08 Jul 2000
Posts: 3136
Location: Texas |
Sun Mar 10, 2002 2:42 am
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Don't think so T/S.
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Jeanie

Joined: 18 Nov 2001
Posts: 1323
Location: North East U.S.A. |
Sun Mar 10, 2002 3:19 am
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Great photo's from Seeker and Thermit. Thanks |
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
Posts: 3403
Location: Damnit...I'm a doctor jim |
Sun Mar 10, 2002 3:24 am
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I was being a bit of a smart ass Thermit...
I had this one on my site for a month..
interesting how it comes right from the source...
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plutobeach
Joined: 04 May 2001
Posts: 17
Location: South FL |
Sun Mar 10, 2002 5:32 am
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Yes, fear mongering.
A little simple research could have provided a plausible explanation. I would have expected much more from Bell and others who claim to be involved with "research" on this subject.
Nice pictures of the wake turbulence studies. We crossed the wake of a 747, never closer than 20 miles to the other plane, and still it felt like hitting a large log driving on an interstate. Not real pleasant.
Does anyone ever wonder why there aren't any pictures of these "sprayers" on the ground? |
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Dan Rockwell

Joined: 10 Dec 2001
Posts: 1988
Location: Stamford, CT, USA |
Sun Mar 10, 2002 6:06 pm
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Give us time plutobeach. I got a pretty good look at 2 of them flying low adjusting their air speed. Of course they weren't spraying at the time, but they were acting real suspicious, flying low almost side by side at slightly different altitudes, slowing down at exactly the same time as they were passing above me. One of them had 2 wing mounted engines and the other had 4. Both were the same color with identical markings on their tails. They were traveling in a normal southbound commercial corridor but were not the normal type of craft that we usually see here.
Later that day, 2 jets made this curious mark in the sky north of my house.
As I have mentioned in other posts, one of the jets made a short trail, actually turning something on and off to make the trail and a second one made another trail and stopped spraying very close to where the first one had stopped. - The trails did not come from the wings. Due to this event, I now carry a camcorder as well as my digital cameras.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Dan Rockwell on 03-10-2002] |
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Dan Rockwell

Joined: 10 Dec 2001
Posts: 1988
Location: Stamford, CT, USA |
Sun Mar 10, 2002 7:12 pm
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The point that both jets stopped spraying was approximately 4 miles north of my location. Now though it may just be a coincidence, there is a 110 foot communications tower that is owned by the fire company there. Has anyone done a study of the mapping of electromagnetic anomalies using satellites and alluminum oxide? Maybe there's another instrument package on the GOES satellites that we don't know about. I know that they were interested in one anomaly that was caused by an abandoned Iron ore mine in the Hudson Valley. Unfortunately for them, my colleague and I were conducting tours of archaeological sites in the area and made it a point to show everyone the locked gate and the jeep tracks. My colleague thought it kind of odd that every time he set foot on the property, that the local authorities were there in a matter of minutes. After a while, they either gave up or collected whatever data that they needed and pulled out of there in a hurry.
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WiseQuakker

Joined: 21 Aug 2000
Posts: 141
Location: Wherever I happen to be at the time |
Tue Mar 12, 2002 11:32 am
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Beware, Seeker... Those may not be peppercorns you grind over your next salad...
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“When walking amongst predators, never lose awareness of your surroundings. By itself, science tells us what should be. Only tempered with clinical observation and common sense, does it tell us what really is......”
— The Quakk
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Deb
Joined: 04 Oct 2001
Posts: 163
Location: Plainfield, Indiana USA |
Tue Mar 12, 2002 1:30 pm
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Dan, have you or any one in your group subscribed to Flight Explorer yet? It's the only way you are going to be able to understand the planes and what they are doing when you see them.
For example, you say 2 stopped "spraying" at the exact same time. Although at least 1,000 feet apart in altitude, they both may have been descending at the same time and at the same speed starting an approach to one of the major airports. Or they may have exited a pocket of RH.
The only way to ascertain IF planes are "spraying" anything is to get FE and watch them in real time. "Spraying" indicates a deliberate activity; contrails are a natural occurence when exhaust meets weather conditions. |
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Molliani
Joined: 16 Mar 2001
Posts: 428
Location: Illinois |
Tue Mar 12, 2002 7:55 pm
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Please show a little compassion Deb
and spare us this tiring redundancy
of Flight Explorer.
Mark's been there - done that as you
would say.
Let common sense prevail.........
Flight Explorer is a dead issue, peddle
your wares elsewhere - the chemnoids
aren't buying.
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