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Cloud Watcher
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Weatherwars Response
Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:24 am
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I don't agree with everything that Scott Stevens says. I cannot agree with anything that he says regarding ufo's, aliens, etc. But the observations that I have read regarding weather mod., chemtrails,etc, have backed up what I've seen.
I, too, would like to see some current information that is irrefutable & conclusive regarding all of this phenomena. All I have been able to find have been articles & info from the late 1990's. |
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weatherman714
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Seeding the atmosphere...
Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:05 pm
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For me there's a tremendous data base, a long record of all my research buried away on different yahoo groups. I wonder if Smoke read my posts and stole my theory.
"A few aircraft can quietly and secretly seed the upper atmosphere, and these “seeds” or small particles drift down toward earth. Such an operation would be much easier to keep a lid on then most of the extravagant, labor intensive theories I have come across."
There are two different types of seeds Smoke. One is a dynogel type that extracts water vapor from the atmospehre, thus raising it's temperature and pressure at the jet stream level, changing the dynamics of storm systems.
See my Sept '04 post "Spraying the State of Arizona."
From: uspresident2016
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:56 pm
Subject: Spraying the State of AZ uspresident2016
Send IM
The State of AZ is roughly 100,000 sq miles. Is it possible to
spray at the 250mb level, with a temperature of -30C(-22F) and an RH
at 100%. The mixing ratio over water is .32 g/kg. The business man
in FL claims that his spray can absorb 4000 times its weight in
water. How many boeing does it take to reduce the RH by 50% at 250mb
with uniform temperature/RH/Pressure through a 1000meter thick level.
100000 sq miles -> 258998811034 meters ^2 now multiply by 1000m
258998811034000m^3.
Density of air is 1/4 of the surface density which is 1kg/m^3
Cut amount of air by 1/4.
6.4749*10 ^13 kg of air *.32 g/kg of air
2.07199* 10^13 g of H20.
convert to kg of water
2.07199* 10^10 kg of H20
HE claims that is absorbs 4,000 times it weight
2.07199* 10^10 kg/H20 / 4000
5179920 kg of absorbant to absorb all the vapor in our box.
We only want to absorb .16 grams, which is 1/2 our initial value.
5179920kg/2 = 2589960
Now according to Stu, a 747 can hold 100,000 lbs of spray
100,000lbs= 45359 kg
2589960kg/ 45359 kg/planes == 57.09 aircraft
Ok 58 747's.
The pressure effects?
PV=nRT, assume N and R are constant
Exacting the water vapor will cause heating of about 5C. Since we
assume constant volume, N and R, the Pressure will change as a ration
between temperatures before and after.
P= 1000m/243K (before) / 1000m/248K (after)
P= 1.0205 P0
P= 255.14mb Delta P = 5.14mb
The other type of spray is plastic fibers with endothermic bacteria attached to them to increase the freezing temperature of water in the cloud. It changes the entire cloud dynamics in situations where the clouds are producing precipitation in a 32F> atmosphere. It works great in the summer in kicking off major storms. This was the same day of the "historic" hail storm over LA.
Flashback to Early Wednesday:
> "From: "Paul" <weatherman714@y...>
> Date: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:07 am
> Subject: USAF listens and they changed methods for the Arctic Blast
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> "its like a fairy tale or
> something. Counter-clockwise spray over Puerto Rico, Desert SW, the
> front north of Hawaii,"
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> Now for the totals!
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> "IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT MOST OF
> THE RAINFALL LISTED BELOW FELL WITHIN A 2-DAY PERIOD FROM NOVEMBER
> 12TH THROUGH THE 13TH. "
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> http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/JSJ/PNSSJU.0311152029
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> 000
> NOCA42 TJSJ 152029 CCA
> PNSSJU
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> PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT...UPDATED
> NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
> 420 PM AST SAT NOV 15 2003
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> ...SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL HITS PUERTO RICO AND THE VIRGIN ISLANDS...
>
> RAINFALL ACROSS THE AREA THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS HAS BEEN
> EXCESSIVE...LEADING TO SIGNIFICANT FLASH FLOODING ACROSS MANY AREAS.
> THOUSANDS OF HOMES HAVE BEEN FLOODED...MANY STREETS BECAME
> IMPASSABLE...AND MANY WATER RESCUES HAD TO BE PERFORMED DUE TO THE
> SEVERE FLOODING. SOME RIVERS ROSE TO OVER 10 FEET ABOVE THEIR
> FLOOD STAGES!
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> LISTED BELOW ARE 6-DAY RAINFALL TOTALS FOR SELECTED MUNICIPALITIES.
> THE VALUE FOR EACH MUNICIPALITY IS THE HIGHEST RAINFALL TOTAL
> REPORTED WITHIN THAT MUNICIPALITY. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT MOST OF
> THE RAINFALL LISTED BELOW FELL WITHIN A 2-DAY PERIOD FROM NOVEMBER
> 12TH THROUGH THE 13TH. THE HEAVIEST RAINFALL BEGAN TO AFFECT THE
> VIRGIN ISLANDS ON THE NIGHT OF NOVEMBER 10TH...AND THEN BEGAN TO
> AFFECT MUCH OF PUERTO RICO ON NOVEMBER 11TH. THE HEAVIEST RAINFALL
> WAS FOCUSED ACROSS THE VIRGIN ISLANDS AND THE SOUTH AND EAST
> PORTIONS OF PUERTO RICO.
> ____________________________________________________________________
>
> PUERTO RICO:
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> MUNICIPALITY 6-DAY RAINFALL TOTAL (INCHES)
> (11/8-11/14)
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> NAGUABO 25.62
> COMERIO 21.97
> CABO ROJO 20.45...REPORTED SINCE NOON ON 11TH
> PATILLAS 18.08
> FAJARDO 17.45
> RIO GRANDE 16.99
> AIBONITO 16.81
> GUAYAMA 16.69
> PATILLAS 16.61
> PONCE 16.45
> LUQUILLO 16.23
> GUAYAMA 16.19
> ADJUNTAS 15.88
> JAYUYA 15.77
> LAS PIEDRAS 15.50
> FLORIDA 15.00
> MAUNABO 14.50
> RIO GRANDE 12.86
> YABUCOA 12.48
> COAMO 12.60
> SAN LORENZO 12.26
> SAN GERMAN 11.71
> JUANA DIAZ 11.48
> YAUCO 11.23
> CAYEY 10.75
> GURABO 10.66
> RIO GRANDE 10.45
> JUNCOS 9.71
> LAJAS 9.42
> BAYAMON 9.01
> AGUADILLA 8.93
> HORMIGUEROS 8.91
> NAGUABO 8.85
> CEIBA 8.20
> CAGUAS 8.08
> AIBONITO 8.05
> CAGUAS 7.98
> CIDRA 7.98
> OROCOVIS 7.51
>
> U.S VIRGIN ISLANDS:
> ST. CROIX 14.93
> ST. THOMAS 11.90 |
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weatherman714
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software
Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:22 pm
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"Weatherman714 Do you have any more info on your software?
I am interested in your forcasts and this software based on a weather model you mention."
It's version 1.0 and by no stretch of the imagination, anything but numeric output. It's everything I use to do by pencil and paper now by computer and with 0.005% of the time it use to take. It use to take me 140 to 180 hours just to initialize a city, it now takes 38 minutes. Most of the time is cutting and pasting data into a spreadsheet. Updating takes roughly 7 to 10 minutes/city depending on what I want to look for. I'm still limited by time and capital. The biggest I can get my model with Version 1.0 is 150 to 170 cities. It's not going North American, much less Con US with Version 1.0 that's for sure. As my programming skills get better, it'll eventually have graphics and then become a layered model, having a jet stream forecast, 850mb temp forecast, etc. |
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weatherman714
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A couple of clues
Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:05 am
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I had the chance to re-read smoke's remarks. She sets it up really well, says that she's researched flight paths out of O'hare, but to the untrained eye, the planes leaving or landing O'Hare in a 30 mile radius of O'Hare would not be at flight level leaving contrails/chemtrails as Smoke claims.
Secondly, she turns the tables and sneaks in "they are seeding the atmosphere." As if she was the first one to discover this. In Dec, 2001 I had dealings with a nieve,immature profressor @ UMBC, she acted the same way with her "theory" about models having glitches because of the way they are represented. Her theory was if you have an average concentration of .5 mg/l of say CO2, it might not be evenly distrubuted throughout the box. She was nieve enough to believe she was the only person in the scienitific community to ever think of that concept, dispite the fact that modeling has been done since the late 60's.
Third, she calls my forecasts a load of crap in the face to irrerfutable evdience that I've nailed it to the wall. Why would anyone 4 months later open their mouth about my forecasts after they "present" a theory they "just" came up with.
Fourth, she goes after Stevens as well, as to play the devil's adovacate. What's she's really gloating about is, she's an undercover meteorologist, hired by NASA or another government agency to keep track of things in the conspiracy world.
My challenge to her:
Come up with a techincal discussion using chemtrails and models, and forecast like me 6 days in advance... then we'll see how good you are.... |
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weatherman714
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Sample Run:
Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:07 am
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SectionB: Exp For: Forecast Actual Error
Date:3/8/06 57F 43F
03/09 60F 64F 4
03/10 55F 62F 7
03/11 54F 55F 1
03/12 57F 61F 4
03/13 67F 72F 5
03/14 65F 52F 7
03/15 41F 42F 1
03/16 47F 47F 0
03/17 42F 42F 0
03/18 44F 38F 6
03/19 43F 42F 1
03/20 38F 38F 0
03/21 33F 33F 0
03/22 28F 33F 5
03/23 45F 43F 2
03/24 42F 39F 3
03/25 41F 39F 2
03/26 39F 41F 2
03/27 45F 51F 6
03/28 42F 52F 10
03/29 39F 58F 19
03/30 34F 66F 32
03/31 35F 74F 39
04/01 26F 60F 34
04/02 33F 56F 23
This was a 25 day sample run for Pittsburgh, PA beginning on 3/8/06. 4/02 is a 25 day forecast. This is projected high temperatures. During the last 7 days of the run the temperature disparity increases rapidly. What's going on? Remember, when energy is over an area where it's not suppose to be, there can be violent storms. The period from 3/30 to 04/02 yielded a total of 118 torandoes. There were also 158 torandos from 3/10-3/12 as well. |
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Orwell knew

Joined: 21 May 2004
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Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:52 am
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Whiting out the sky that "turns down the sun" is not just a theory here where I live in Mid-missouri is is simply reality. I don't have to speculate WHAT the main objective of this particulate/aerosol spreading is, I simply LOOK UP and wake up and see its REAL effects!
We don't have much at all major air travel coming in and out of here and only mainly a few scattered east west commercial air traffic-- at least most of the time other than the... OPERATIONS.
THis seems to occur mostly any time when oddly enough there are NO other clouds in the blue sky and just when you might expect "persistant" contrails NOT to form. The "squadrons come out and literally criss cross and X and curve and fly at each other until SHORTLY their spreading huge smokey white spreading trails COVER EVERY SQUARE INCH-- as far as we can see-- of the sky!
It seems strange to me every one will speculate on the most evil of intentions about "our government" (and I'm no stranger to Evil in GOv ) but many won't even speculate on one of the most reasonable theories (IMO) about why MOST of this WHITE OUT particular and or aerosol spreading is occurring. Perhaps it is simply GREED with a total disregard for life RATHER than genocide as it's main motivater.......... (different only by degrees) to keep the age of "petro chemicals" alive.
What if SIMPLY the world REALLY IS WARMING from the use of our slash and burn ways and fossil fuel consumption(AND perhaps other factors). And what IF it really is becoming MORE and MORE impossible to keep adding tons and tons of CO2 into the atmosphere without either realizing repercussions or trying to "geoengineer" our way into a temporarily (as long as possile) sustained oil economy???
Would you accept geoengineering to be able to keep driving your 12 MPG SUV and to be able to keep that cushy city job. And of course to keep Exxons CEO from losing his 400 MILLION dollar a year "bonus" while they get free government subsidies for "research" and you decide between food and gas. ASsholes. More profit reptortedly in a year than ANY OTHER "US" company last year. ASSHOLES... I guess I said that already!... Criminals!!!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!$
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weatherman714
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Scott Stevens, stumbles upon something
Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:13 am
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Severe Weather Alert: PostSat Apr 15, 2006 8:25 pm
"A Re-set Date will be crossing the Central US on April 19th. I expect a lot of severe weather across the Upper Mid-West through the Central Plains on Wednesday. Stay Tuned."
Yes Scott... you stumbled upon something. FYI, it's nature and not man made, that is unless I do have direct contact with some other foregin power...But then again it explains how I forecasted Wilma 10+ days in advance,and it explains Victor and the other TS off the cold waters of NW Africa this past hurricane season. It also explains the Brazilian hurricane in '04.
http://www.weatherwars.info/index.php?news_id=63&start=0&category_id=&parent_id=0&arcyear=&arcmonth= |
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visual ray wizard

Joined: 09 Jul 2005
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Location: United States |
I was watching the very same LP sit stationary for several
Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:58 am
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days. So long as we don't have to start cranking the AC units here in the Ohio Valley I am quite happy with the influx of cooler weather.
Last weekend we had a major air show and I cranked up the cloud buster with running water and our forecasted weather of 40-60 percent clouds and rain in the afternoon became 100?% blue skies and no rain what so ever. (I feel bad for the local weather guys)
Everyone on TV was commenting on how lovely the weather was and all I did was grin from ear to ear. Nothing like having close to a million people enjoy the works of nature. It's all good that ends good.
Pretty much the same ole same ole around here for the wizard.
I am quite sure the pilots enjoyed having unlimited visiblity for the air show and the crowd enjoyed one of the most marvelous days of the year. Thanks to the DOD for putting on one heck of a show. _________________ Being one with nature never felt so good! |
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CASPR Ghost Hunter
Joined: 05 Nov 2004
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stuff in the air
Tue May 02, 2006 4:16 am
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You guys are forgetting the particulate matter that is in the air now that wasn't before. Just look for yourself, Smoke, and you will see. I bet you're one of those guys who says it's busy spiders.....If so, please don't bother to reply, it's insulting.
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