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Re: Can't You see it. PostMon Aug 27, 2007 5:05 pm  Reply with quote  

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Originally posted by Redeemerson
I still maintain that June, 2008 will be the last opportunity for anyone to accept Christ as their savior.


I can not agree nor diagree with that statement, I just think its beyond us to predict precise dates and events. However, I do agree with and found this in the islamic hadith; The prophet Muhammad(SAW) gave plenty of signs of the coming of judgement day and amongst them, was the rising of the sun in the west at the immergence of the antichrist. This is what it says about that time;

After the night of three nights, the following morning the sun will rise in the west. People’s repentance will not be accepted after this incident.

As for scientific proof that the earth's poles have reversed before, I have discussed that previously and given plenty of links. It's even been proven on the Discovery channel by looking at lava flows that suddenly reversed direction.

So the earth did reverse polarity, if so and if it does happen again, I'm assuming that would affect the spin of the earth and thus, the night of three nights as mentioned above; where everything stands still, then slowly, the earth would regain the spin, but in the opposite direction. So the sun would appear to rise from the west.

My theory anyways.
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PostTue Aug 28, 2007 1:08 am  Reply with quote  

Logic and instinct should tell us all that no Creator would have to write a book to reveal Truth to us, He would instill it in us as He would understand that a controlling type man could tamper with a book and hide the truth behind allegory and mysticism and an artificially created language. All languages were updated in the 1500’s and English was to be the universal language, highly encoded, so our words have different meanings when SPOKEN-because it is crafted with SPELL-ings, no coincidence at all.

Plato, who wrote The Republic, discussed that NOTHING would be given to the mass of people unless authorized by the Elite controllers. He lived over 2,000 years ago, and studied all through Egypt, Asia and Persia in the mystery religion (how to control and manipulate humans). The scribes and Priesthoods were of an Elite class, as the average person was ignorant, illiterate and worked from sunup to sundown, barely surviving. It is hardly conceivable, that these Elite priests, who were absolute control freaks, primarily homosexual and bisexual, would write a book to enlighten and free the masses. This is the same for ALL holy books, as they were created by the same group of "international" priests, who kept their control intergenerationally, just like the ruling oligarchies who marry for control and money by inbreeding. Within these holy books, especially the Bible is an exoteric (outward) meaning for the masses and an esoteric (inner-secret) meaning for the Elite, who are educated in the ancient mystery religions of Persia. Freemasonry came out of the mystery religions, as a means to create a bureaucratic class to run things, a sifting ground for those with the ability to keep secrets and have psychopathic tendencies, which most politicians, top clergy, govt. officials, military leaders, etc. have. Within the Bible is the “hook” or Truth as to how we humans should treat each other, but as the hook or crook lures you into the net/web, if you realize something is amiss, then they will use the rod to beat you into submission. That is why “thy rod and thy staff comfort me”. Every Pharaoh was buried with theses as depicted on their tombs.

Pythagorus was called a “fisher king” 500 years BC because he recruited the “brighter boys” from the “pool of life”. The Templar story of King Arthur’s round table has a wise hermit, who was a Fisher-King. For thousands of years priests, Con, Koen, Cain, Cohen, King, (Sumerian Kingu), Khan (as in Genghis) had been plucking young Can-didates. The laws of Moses concerning “kosher” food are allegories of qualities required for potential novices. Fish with “scales” means he must be “well-balanced”. Also represented by the Con –Stella(r) tion

There are plenty of books about the Vatican, how corrupt beyond belief it is, even though it was Constantinople that "authorized" the Bible as we read it today. It is a political body, steeped in the old mystery religions, and worth an absolute fortune, with men who wear dresses that run the show. I have an old version of The King James version, which is dedicated at the front to King James, to his GODHOOD, he owned everything, even the air the people breathed. He was a pedophile, a psychopath, and he believed that HE was put on Earth as a God, and no one had the right to argue with him, he would have any person who defied him killed. These types of rulers have no empathy for human beings, they can have millions killed without losing a nights sleep. It is why the Torah, Bible and Quran are loaded with the bloodshed of innocent people,who supposidly disobey God (of this Earth)- NOT the Creator. Even the Bible tells you that the ruler of this Earth rules in darkness (secrecy) – not the Creator.

Science and technology as we know today, is not new, as man in past ages have had access to much advanced science. It is just that the controlling oligarchy, who have always been with us and always will (in the words of Aldous Huxley), have controlled this knowledge and brought it out gradually in this age in order for us to think we are on the cutting edge. Everything in the book of Revelations can be done today with science. Muslims believe they are the chosen people, Jews believe they are the chosen people and Christians believe they are the chosen people, that Christ will return and “rule with an iron fist”, after slaughtering all the disbelievers. That is double think since as Christians we are taught to be meek and mild, loving and forgiving, turn the other cheek, etc.

History will show us that the good guys do not win in the end. Truth is, we are now at the end of an age (according to the Elite’s business plan), and most of us are not needed anymore, they have to change the system that they created because it is too cumbersome, we have too many freedoms (as good ole Clinton stated) and the money system has to be changed. They own everything now, most land, water, sea, air, food, and natural resources. They plan on completely altering humanity as it is today, re-engineering us as we are not efficient enough slaves.

The Bible is their open source coding, as the 12 tribes are truly the 12 ruling Elite families, the 13th being hidden, shortly to be revealed. We know who the other families are, they have not hid themselves, they have been open about their agenda, they write books, publish minutes to meetings, of how they must control the populations of the Earth. We are not equal to them. They are inbred, and have kept records of their geneologies going back thousands of years. It is easy to make a prophecy when you have laid out the business plan and then inter-generationally work toward that plan. They believe, as high freemasonry reveals, that they are the ones the Creator cast down, the fallen angels, as recorded not only in the Bible but also in the histories of India, Greece, Sumer, Asia, etc. Noah survived, not in a boat, but inside mountains, underground caverns and tunnels. Mt. Ararat today is riddled with these, no one is allowed in as the military guards it. It is like an Area 51, with high tech flying machines entering and leaving the caverns.

It is very probable that the races on the Earth today were tampered with thousands of years ago, through genetic experimentation by international Priests who had underground facilities, practiced inbreeding, drug experimentation, animal to human experimentation, all kinds of stuff as we are nothing more than ants to them as it is stated today in Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter. Today, they are using the same techniques, only now they have our consent to vaccinate us, to pump us full of chemicals, to genetically modify our food, to pollute our water, etc. Through the commercial, money system, we have enabled them to take complete control, we are their economic cells that work for money and then it is taxed back from us for their own agenda – always tricking us into believing that it is for our own good. Religious leaders then tax our spiritual selves and uphold the very system that is destroying humanity.

Just like the new Priests in the White Coats, whether scientists or doctors, they are forever telling us how we are on the brink of a cure, the brink of life on EZ street, when in fact, it is part of an old agenda to completely alter humanity. It is an old trick to take control of FOOD, WATER and SHELTER, nothing new and the Elite have finally figured out how to do it GLO-BAAL-Y, for it is an old old agenda.

All languages were created to program us, to make us think in a particular way, as we have lost the ancient information passed down from our ancestors, stolen from these deviant beings, and hidden from the common folk as they call us. Once, the true original peoples inherited a garden of Eden, we could choose to live in nature as we were originally given, and there is no doubt that our ancestors fought these deviants who constantly wanted to alter nature, to make it better in their image, to dissect and control it.


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The parable speaks of being of good seed, and it is the truth contained in it that I will hold fast too.


Unfortunately, that Truth is not what you think. The seed is THEIRS as they believe, through inbreeding, they have kept their genetic line pure from ours. You equate good with “behavior”, they do not. Noah was “perfect in his generations” because he inbred, kept away from the “commoners” and practiced incest and selective breeding.

Unfortunatley you all read the Bible as if it was written for YOU. It is not. There is truth in it, which appeals to common people who have kept their empathy for others, who truly care about others. Unfortunately, the Bible or LE-Bib is a highly coded reference book for the Elite, who used Francis Bacon (BEE-A-CON) to bring in the new UNI-VERSE-AL language, English, as presented in A & E (arts & entertainment or Adam & Eve) under the pseudonym SHAKE-SPEARE. Sir Francis Bacon and all his monks, along with John Dee (007) and Sir Walter Raleigh and Kelly, were all in control of a very large priesthood of MEN WHO LIVED WITHOUT WOMEN and swore their allegiance to men. Women were only there for PRO-CREATION, to re-gene-ra-te themselves. There is NO WAY, as Plato said 2,000 years ago, that an Elite ruling oligarchy would allow the masses to have a culture, religion, govt., language without the absolute control of the Elite.


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The actual quote from the Bible states that Christ will shepherd and control the nations with a staff (scepter or rod) of iron after His second coming (Book of Revelation 19:15). This is for a period of time before the current earth is destroyed and a new world emerges in its place.


Revelations is a business plan for the Elite. They are using science to bring in their NWO. Science is just magic the people don’t understand. For a short period of time, those of us in the West had a chance for freedom, although controlled, and now that is over as the whole system is being altered for a new age to come, an age where the masses will be dominated by a ruling Elite within a scientifically controlled society.

Why would a CREATOR do this? You must start using logic because time is of the essence. You are praying to the wrong deity, because to PRAY is also to PREY, no coincidence because the PRIESTS ALWAYS PREYED on the SHEEPLE while they had their own INNER SECRET RELIGION that ruled, kept the wealth and steered humanity in the direction that they wanted.

You are the SHEEPLE of the ELITE, the 12 tribes of ISIS-RA-EL are the 12 RULING families of the world today the thirteenth hidden, you've been CONNED, and it is a tragedy because you will their will when you pray AMEN (written on the tombs of the Pharaohs like the hermaphrodite Akhenaton). God is Dog spelled backwards because there is the DOG Star in HE-AVE-n and it is a representation of the Elite who at the top, the SUFI Persian homosexual pedophiles have hijack-assed humanity. In ancient times men castrated themselves to be the DOG Priests for the Manly Priests to re-enact CREATION, without females, while ALWAYS making females out to be WHORES and WITCHES.

We give glory to the Beast which is the SYSTEM we live under as it is a dog-eat-dog system where only the psychopaths can rise to the top and take control. No matter how decent you are as an individual, we all uphold this system, Christians through missions have brought the money system into societies that survived just fine without money. Money is a CON, it is our BEE-Leaf in it that makes it so and rules our lives because we cannot survive in this system without it. The Elite plan on changing this, as money is too cumbersome and we have adapted nicely to a cashless society of debits and credits. We will work for credits eventually as money will become obsolete once the Elite have finished with it. Their time table is written in the stars, as they are the rats that run it. AS ABOVE SO BELOW, means both heaven and hell is on Earth. They justify unbelievable cruelty to other humans as a necessary evil to bring in the Great Work, the brotherhood of man.
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PostTue Aug 28, 2007 9:51 pm  Reply with quote  

Pak; Did not read your whole post as time is short and I have to wash my kayak and get ready for a little trip. Your comment:

"Logic and instinct should tell us all that no Creator would have to write a book to reveal Truth to us, He would instill it in us-----"

He could have made us robots, but he didn't, he gave us inspired written instruction, experiences, prophecies, and results of those making choices against or in agreement with his direction so that we don't have to make every mistake in the book to try and find out what works best for us. No we are not programed, we have the capacity to make educated, intelligent honorable, choices. Which brings honor to the one who instructed us as well as benefit to ourselves.

How can we question the one who created the sun, moon, earth, single cell, etc.? If one truly familiarizes oneself with his word one might ask him why he went to such an extent for puny man to educate, communicate, sacrifice, and reward those listening and obeying with a never ending life.

He had the wisdom to have his inspired book written with a purpose, he darn well has the ability to preserve it's teachings without contamination. Will get back to you Pak.
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PostWed Aug 29, 2007 12:41 am  Reply with quote  

From the minute a person goes into the established educationlal system, their whole process of reasoning becomes 100% subjective.

The objective part of reasoning in a person's mind is therefore abandoned, this leads to inumerable speculation.

It is urgent therefore for people to take time and meditate, to permit the mind a breking point if you will, to slowly awaken the objective mental field.

there is nothing that will be hidden from you, if you look inside, if you quiet the mind to permit consciousness to slowly awaken from it's deep slumber.
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PostWed Aug 29, 2007 8:37 am  Reply with quote  

Jeannie,

You said it all for me in this paragraph!

He could have made us robots, but he didn't, he gave us inspired written instruction, experiences, prophecies, and results of those making choices against or in agreement with his direction so that we don't have to make every mistake in the book to try and find out what works best for us. No we are not programed, we have the capacity to make educated, intelligent honorable, choices. Which brings honor to the one who instructed us as well as benefit to ourselves.

The two books of Peter in the New Testament have greatly influenced and strengthened my faith - even though I would be classed as a mere gentile! We are human - and all of us have the capacity to do what He expects of us if we trust Him completely, stay faithful and focused. If we so wish - He does gives us the right to choose our own destiny.

I believe His inspired word will only help those who are really, truly searching for salvation - only He really knows what is in our souls. We have to stay loyal only to Him.
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PostWed Aug 29, 2007 9:52 pm  Reply with quote  

Luvthetruth; Please don't apologize for being a gentile, the disclosure of new arrangements of the Jewish nation being discarded as "as God's people" took place in 33 C.E. when disciples of Christ gathered in an upper room, tongues of fire hovered over the heads of those people as well as a stiff wind and they were given a divine gift of holy spirit enabling them to witness to the Jews with multi languages who had gathered there to celebrate Pentecost. Acts chapter 2 verse one and on verse 6, "each one heard them speaking in his own language" Peter gave a speech explaining this miracle and verse 41 says that day 3,000 were baptized. Please read the whole chapter.

Although the Jews no longer were the chosen people that did not mean that individual Jews then and now couldn't find favor in Gods eyes.
In the apostle John's vision he said "I saw, and look a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, verse 10,

"Salvation we owe to our God, who is seated on the throne, and to the Lamb."

They, the Jews, became unacceptable when the "straw that broke the camels back" happened, they refused to accept the Son of God, the Messiah, and were instrumental in inciting the Romans to arrest and put to death, Jesus.
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PostFri Aug 31, 2007 12:23 am  Reply with quote  

People would not be robots because their Creator instilled in them certain innate abilities to search for, and work toward finding their spiritual self. The Old Testament was taken from old texts like the Egyptian Book of the Dead, with stories rehashed to start a new “system” of control and give credence to that system. It is all based on the old mystery religions, of stellar, lunar and solar worship which originally was nothing but the study of nature and man, recording the cycles of the Earth’s rotation in accordance with the SUN, MOON and STARS, along with the ways man and women react to their environment. That is why there are 12 Tribes of Israel, the 12 signs of the Zodiac, and each of the tribes is blessed with a zodiacal sign.

The Old Testament is a mafia type system of intellect, cunning and deceit over nature. The God is a tyrant, with the attributes of a King or Pharaoh, because those under his rule never know when he will send down his wrath. He blesses Jacob, which means heel catcher, who steals the birthright from Esau (the natural man). King David gets away with murder, and adultery, I could go on and on. It is also a book of Eugenics where genealogies are kept track of, who begets whom, exactly as the Elite have done for thousands of years.

Genesis means the GENE of ISIS, the triune of Isis, Osiris and Horus. The New Testament is the antithesis of the Old Testament where the God is now loving and kind, a personal God you can commune with as opposed to the Hell and Damnation guy in the clouds.

Man is far older than what is recorded in the Bible. Ancient peoples inhabited the Earth, recorded their histories in stone carvings, pictures on cave walls, exquisite drawings of animals now long extinct. You should read Forbidden Archeology by Michael Cremo. It is very good, gives all the detailed evidence of ancient man, not as the Darwinists would have you believe, descendants of apes, but humans who lived, breathed, loved and survived in nature, as it was given to them by the Creator. Our ancient ancestors were made of very tough stock, able to live in nature, study and understand nature as it was given to them, respecting nature, but not wanting to dominate nature as the deviants who rule the Earth in darkness (secrecy) today.

The start of the money system, which is what the Bible is about, which is why Jesus gives you the truth that the money, taxation and corruption of the religious authorities, would lead to the never ending story of poverty, human deviance, decay and destruction of nature. Money is unnatural; it allows a ruling minority, who control the money to then control a society. It was the very first CON, done by the sons of CAIN who slew ABEL where we get CANNIBEL. You are living in their system and unfortunately, Christianity was brought in to uphold that system and spread it across the Earth. This is not to say that individual Christians aren’t good people, many are, but the system is corrupt, especially today.

You, Jeanie are a nice person as are your children, and if you had been born in the Middle East you more than likely would have been very nice Muslims, or Jews, or whatever, but your nature would be the same. The Elite, who have inbred now for thousands upon thousands of years, have inbred their intellect, cunning and absolute inhumanity. They could kill a child without blinking and eye; they could condemn millions to death and not lose any sleep at night. This is their nature. No different than man breeds certain qualities into animals, like sheep, which are the dumbest most domesticated animals on the face of the planet. I don’t think our Creator would refer to us as sheep or himself as the Good Shepherd. This is a cut to human beings and no father would cut down his own child or creation unless he wanted to dominate them.

If you read Will Durant’s extensive history books, one called Our Oriental Heritage, you will find how old we truly are, how the system is what has led to our dim-eyes. There are good things to follow in the Bible, like love, honesty, empathy, etc. but unfortunately it is a book that was rewritten so many times by men who had an agenda. Constantinople authorized it with the cardinals of the Vatican, a corrupt political body. You could only take the Bible on faith, and that is too bad because our Creator gave you a brain to discern the Truth, to realize that very deviant clever Priests wanted absolute control over people, to justify it, to tax their life on Earth and afterlife.

If you read very old histories from missionaries who went into areas where the people were considered “primitive” untouched by the “civilized” man you will find that they recorded time and time again how these clannish or tribal peoples did not fight or kill each other, did not starve as food was given out to anyone who was hungry, the elderly were respected, revered for their knowledge. They had no laws, and only a few social rules that kept their society together. That is not to say every society was perfect but they did not kill as we do today, wholesale slaughter of millions in war, disease, starvation, pestilence and thirst as today. The missionaries, unfortunately, although many had the belief they were doing good actually enabled the ruling Elite to bring in the money/commercial system of control which ALWAYS followed behind the missionaries. Once money gets in the picture, the people no longer share items, trade, nor does nature mean anything to them anymore. People are herded into cities (unnatural beehives), dislocated, their families and clans broken up, their customs destroyed, and now they have to adapt to a whole new system alien to them, and not for their benefit but for the benefit of the ruling elite robber barons.

I studied one of the last ancient peoples untouched by civilization still living in the Amazon called the Yanomano. They would welcome newcomers with tears, it was their way of showing respect. They had no homosexuality, no pedophilia, no abortion, no war, no sexual deviance. They had coming of age rituals to prepare the young men and women into adulthood. The only “wars” they had were with neighboring clans, who were related, only for huff and puff. The men would compete for the women. They would suffer a few bruises but no one was killed. The winners would get to steal women from the camp that lost. These women would have already been chosen ahead of time, as they had strict rules of who they could marry. A man did not marry his mother, sister, aunt nor his first cousin. That is why they would then make sure certain females were given to a different tribe for marriage purposes. They were affectionate and loving people, kind, generous, and totally in tune with their natural surroundings. Their lifespans were not very long due to the fact that there were so many poisonous snakes and insects, it was hard to avoid being bitten fatally. It is why they built longhouses and the women and children stayed close to these buildings as the men would clear the area to protect their women and children.

This is why today, most people are oblivious to the assault on our skies. They no longer recognize nature at all, the true Garden of Eden our Creator gave us. Unfortunately all the holy books were heavily tampered with, the truth of our past has been kept from us. It is why in Iraq, when we first invaded that country, the museums were raided and many valuable articles were removed. This was not done by chance but because the Elite did not want any Americans to see all the technology and the ancient history that has been recorded. We have a very rich history, our ancestors deserve more, just as our children deserve more, than for us to allow a group of psychopathic Elites, who want to completely dominate humanity in a scientific fashion, where those left will be completely controlled, no longer to breed naturally, no longer to have a functioning brain. This is their Utopia and the Bible, particularly Revelations is their coded plan.

Your faith in a book boggles my mind because it is not from our Creator. To believe that these men were inspired by God is just putting your head in the sand. We may not want to face the Truth of what is going on but if we do not, then we have condemned our descendents and possibly ourselves to a completely scientifically controlled society, where those in control are “unrestrained by traditional values” as stated by Zbignew Brahzinski. All the sexual and moral deviance in the Bible is what they believe is natural and aok. They have no problem with it and our government in the US is totally engulfed in this deviance today. These people regard our humanity, our love and empathy for each other as a weakness, not an asset. Emotion to them is a waste of energy, it is why they do not like women and have been working diligently to procreate without the need of females.

www=world without women, and 666 their favorite number.
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PostFri Aug 31, 2007 9:53 pm  Reply with quote  

Pak; You have major issues needing to be addressed, one by one. I do not need to read the rantings of every Tom, Dick and Harry over the centuries. What I did need to do was to study the scriptures and prove to myself that the writings are inspired and to my benefit. I did that, and to my satisfaction I found that prophecies were fulfilled exactly as stated, the admonition given for raising children, without question works, (it's possible that some children may not cooperate) no fault of the bible. Illustration: You tell your child, you must not play in the street because a car may come along and hit you. The child ignores the advice of it's parent, plays in the street, gets killed by a car. Fault of the parent ? Certainly not.

Remember the guage I spoke about ? That guage is accurate knowledge of the scriptures, against which all philosophies can be measured. Please don't speak so disparagingly of the bible because your opinions are not based on knowledge and truth. It calls for humility to open up ones
mind and accept the fact that we of ourselves do not see all, know all, be all.

Where you got the idea that Jesus would rule with an iron fist is not in keeping with anything I ever read about him. The night before Jesus was put to death he said to his disciples: "I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves." John 13: 34, 35

"No one has greater love than this, that someone should surrender his soul in behalf of his friends." John 15: 12

You mentioned Billy Graham. He definitely does NOT represent Christianity. If you knew what the scriptrues taught and what he taught you would see he never has been in a condition to serve as a Christian example.

When you hear anyone including politicians speak about God and know they are not fit examples, don't assume they are in God's good graces.

If you have desire to know what the bible actually does teach, send me your address over CTC e-mail or if you want to give me your address directly I will give you my phone #. It's all up to you, go on with your present line of thinking or learn something new to benefit yourself...

In closing I might add that I do not have the patience and love for humanity that Christ and his Father exhibit. The majority, if left to me, would presently be history. Give thanks that I'm not in charge, I wait on His right to take action.
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PostSat Sep 01, 2007 12:17 am  Reply with quote  

Revelations 19

11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
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PostSat Sep 01, 2007 1:24 am  Reply with quote  

These scriptures relate to Christ the King at the time of Armageddon, having recieved authority from his father to remove from the invisible realm, wicked spirit creatures, and on earth those who likewise are wicked (OR)
Would you rather they, with super human power, stay out of the affairs of violent, evil, murderous, greedy, unloving humans so we can protect such ones as the one that stole out of her bed a sleeping 9 yr. old girl, raped her and buried her alive ? Maybe yu would like to protect the "rights" of those who purposely spread chemicals and disease over the heads of their unsuspecting neighbors, deprive them of water, or flood them out, trigger earthquakes and su-nami's, boil the ionisphere and on and on and on.


Want to protect the rights of such governments that would contaminate blankets with a deadly disease and give it to the innocent unsuspecting American indians.?
How about protecting the rights of those who insist on carrying on war, blowing up continueously those who happen to pass by, blowing off arms, legs of little children.

Maybe you'd like to protect the rights of those who let their pets starve to death and depriving them of water, or have a tight chain around their necks so that the chain becomes imbedded in the flesh. How about the recent news release regards promoting pit bull fighting, the dogs who were not vicious enough were hung or drowned. Shall we protect the owners rights too ?

If you think you have the wisdom and power to correct these horrible wrongs you better get busy.

As for me I will be absolutly thrilled when Christ corrects these atrosocitites. "And just a little while longer and the wicked one will be no more and you will certainly give attention to his place and he will not be, But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace." Psalms 37: 10, 11

This was written a long time ago, prophecy extends up to this very minute. When we see buds on the trees and the weather is warming after a cold winter we know spring is near. Likewise, reading particular signs given in the scriptures we know the time is nearly upon us when the rider with the long sword and the white horse appear (figuratively) Can't be too soon for me...
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PostSat Sep 01, 2007 5:58 am  Reply with quote  

PAK, I enjoyed reading your one paragraph about the Yanomamo Indians and I suggest you stick with surface subjects such as this. But when you pout off your made-up New Age religion and your made-up vocabulary it’s quite annoying.

Let’s point out some of the absurd and inaccurate statements you posted…but let’s start with your blasphemy against God first:


    The Old Testament was taken from old texts like the Egyptian Book of the Dead

    That is why there are 12 Tribes of Israel, the 12 signs of the Zodiac, and each of the tribes is blessed with a zodiacal sign.

    The Old Testament is a mafia type system of intellect, cunning and deceit over nature.

    The God is a tyrant

    Genesis means the GENE of ISIS, the triune of Isis, Osiris and Horus

    The New Testament is the antithesis of the Old Testament

    The start of the money system, which is what the Bible is about

    It (control of money) was the very first CON, done by the sons of CAIN who slew ABEL where we get CANNIBEL

    Christianity was brought in to uphold that system (money) and spread it across the Earth

    Unfortunately it (the Bible) is a book that was rewritten so many times by men who had an agenda.

    Your faith in a book boggles my mind because it is not from our Creator.

    To believe that these men were inspired by God is just putting your head in the sand.



PAK, It’s obvious you take great pleasure discrediting God and the Bible. As for your comment: “Your faith in a book boggles my mind because it is not from our Creator.” Hmm, I think this comment is very interesting because those who follow Satan will credit God almighty as the creator of man, but will not refer to Him as BEING God; just as you called Him, THE God in your blasphemous statement: “The Old Testament is a mafia type system of intellect, cunning and deceit over nature. “The” God is a tyrant.”

And your comments about Jeanie being controlled by elitist regardless where in the world she were to be born is imprudent and ignorant like the rest of your postings.

Christy
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PostSat Sep 01, 2007 11:45 pm  Reply with quote  

Your language, English, is a program, created by very clever priesthoods who specialized in linguistics. They were compartmentalized, creating new languages in order to control the minds of the people. Most languages spoken today were updated in the 1500's. The English language, as we speak today, is an amalgamation of languages, with hidden meanings attached not only to the words we speak, but the SPELLing that was crafted by these priests who lived off the labor of a slave/serf class of people kept in the dark. They created this language as the universal language to be spoken by the majority of the people of the world, being the UNI-VERSE-al language. It is a linear language in that it programs the individual to think in the Hegelian dialectic, which is opposites, in other words there are only two opposite forces, good vs. evil. The ying and the yang. This way they could reduce a problem to only two opposing sides, so that the individual never realizes that there could be a thousand different decisions to be made. Plato used this very effectively over 2,000 years ago.

Each letter has a meaning attached to it in the high occult, now known as noble freemasonry. The Bible, as rewritten in the King James version, was done in order to help bring in the language of Shakespeare, which was truly the clerics that worked for Francis Bacon, John Dee and others in the court of Queen Elizabeth I. This court was an openly masonic court, Rosecrucian (the rose and the cross), which coincidentally was the family crest of Martin Luther. They brought in this new language to unify the people as they spoke a variety of dialecs at that time. It also allowed them to control what the people, the slave class that is, could acquire as knowledge. That is why during the middle ages the people thought the world was flat. The Priests told them the world was flat and religion controlled the people, even though, in ancient times they already knew the Earth was round, had already recorded the stars, the planets, the moon, everything.

It is also why the Priesthoods had all the books burned at Alexandria, because these books were written by the Elite bureaucratic class, for themselves, with knowledge that they did not want the average serf/slave to have.

Your Bible was "authorized" at the Council of Nicene, even though there were other books that were left out. These books were a compilation, sifted through of all the writings of the ancient mystery relgions, rehashed and updated for the average person. That way, the people would be given the exoteric meaning of the books, while the esoteric (hidden) meanings would only be revealed to those in the know, the higher priesthoods and noble freemasonry (from the ancient mystery religions). The Old Testament in high freemasonic parlance gives you the rules of the game, the system we live in, money, wealth, debt, slavery etc. Revelations was a highly debated book, a book today that most pastors, ministers and Priests cannot give you the truth about because they do not know themselves. Ancient history, written in stone, had the Biblical stories almost exactly as portrayed in the Bible and yet these were written long before a Hebrew people ever existed.

God is not the name of our Creator. Did you think up that name? No. It has been given to you, just like laws that you obey, because they come from above. You take it on faith that the people who put all this together were inspired by what they named God. People better start to realize that those in power have had this power for thousands of years. There truly is nothing new under the sun and they are using the same old cons against us that the Pharaohs used against their own people.

Case in point is the whole continent of Africa has been dying off for years, from disease, plagues, war, droughts, famine and everything else in Revelations. Whole societies have been wiped off the map, at the whims of the Elite controllers, who have used the Western people, through their economic system of taxation and greed to implement their (planet) Plan of End Times. Christians are now willing their will, as there is not a single Christian leader who will tell you that the System you live under, you obey unconditionally, is corrupt from top to bottom. Instead, Christianity and Judaism think they can use the system for their own ends - it won't happen because the rulers of this world who are human, but not humane, rule in darkness (secrecy). This is their system, as above so below. They have absolute control over all the major religions, Christianity, Judaism, Hindu, Muslim, you name it. It is an international Priesthood, well connected through blood, just as they are with the ruling nobility. There are truths in these books, you pick and choose that which suits your logic as good and true, even though each sect of Christianity have different ways of being "saved" or "born again".

There is no mention in the Persian, Egyptian, Roman or Greek histories of the country Israel. It is not on ancient Greek maps. Israel, is a made up name, of ISIS-RA-EL the three Gods of the area as those called Ju's by the Egyptians were worshipers of the god Ju-pitah or Jupiter. Pitah was the God of the material world or the rock, as later in the New Testament Peter is the rock. It is the same story with a little twist to it.

There is NO WAY our Creator would change from a god who practices favoritism, is jealous, erratic, and blesses a person like King David, who committed adultery, murder (he had Bathshebas husband killed intentionally in war), was a lousy father, a lousy husband, rich beyond belief and died in the arms of one of his very young concubines. Then, miraculously, this Creator who knows all, decides he's gonna be a nice guy, loving, available, and there for anyone who worships his SON as a God, even though Jesus never told you to worship him as a God.

The problem is, most people do not want to read ancient history even though there is much available, it shows that human beings were around long before a Hebrew people came on the scene, they lived and died, and fought to keep a more natural system of life as the Creator gave them, instead of allowing deviant Priests to take over with Science like magic to alter the world and eventually humanity itself, make us more efficient, docile and obedient. It is the Great Work, the Divine Heavenly Plan that George Bush Sr. talked about in his New World Order speech given Sept. 11, 1990, (exactly 11 years before 911 because these deviants do love numerology), and again in 1991. Margaret Thatcher, after she left as Prime Minister went on a tour around the world, giving speeches entitled her New World Order Tour.
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PostSun Sep 02, 2007 6:38 am  Reply with quote  

Arrrggg.

Never in my entire life have I met an on-line message board poster that SPEWED OUT so much misinformation that was utterly LIES and CRAP. Nearly every sentence of PAK’s is complete nonsense and evil propaganda. I have come to the conclusion that PAK does this intentionally to led others down a false path. I just don’t have the time to reply to all of her ridiculous Christ bashing posts, but I do come on to warn others. I can sense PAK’s desperate attempts to gather followers but if the readers would actually research what she says, you’ll discover it’s all FALSE.

For example, Hegelian dialectic is a philosophy for progression, not a ying and yang end with no other choices. There is a thesis or issue, then a contradiction or antithesis which is then synthesized and it recycles back and forth creating progress that is ongoing with no end. THIS is reason the Hegelian dialectic is termed "progressive”! What PAK stated was the complete opposite.

PAK: “There is no mention in the Persian, Egyptian, Roman or Greek histories of the country Israel. It is not on ancient Greek maps. Israel, is a made up name, of ISIS-RA-EL the three Gods of the area as those called Ju's by the Egyptians were worshipers of the god Ju-pitah or Jupiter.”

This entire post is so riddled with false information it’s hard to choose what to discuss. So, Israel is Isis-Ra-El, huh? Oh brother. “The Land of Israel”, known in Hebrew as Eretz Yisrael, has been sacred to the Jewish people for four thousand years, since the time Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. God even changed Jacob’s name to Israel, ( i‘sara meaning to struggle with, and El meaning God). As far as PAK’s comment about the Greeks not even having Israel on their maps, doesn’t make sense. During the Hellenistic period, 7th century BC, the Greeks RULED over the land of Israel. Go figure.

I could go on and on.
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PostSun Sep 02, 2007 8:37 am  Reply with quote  

Yeah arrrgghh....lol

PAK I'm sorry, but i normally don't read your whole post as their is so much personal opinions and contrived ideas. I especially don't like the capital letters and separation of words such as IS-RA-EL etc.

However, you have every right to your opinions and I do find them interesting at times.

Anyways video on ISLAM and ATHEISM pt1 If you can understand his funny accent.


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PostSun Sep 02, 2007 9:36 pm  Reply with quote  

Funny that in ancient times, among the Yanomano, an Amazon tribe, the Hawaiians, and many other peoples in Africa and elsewhere, there was no rape known, even though the women wore very little clothing, exposing there breasts, for God's sake. It's all a matter of indoctrination. Rape is for power and dominance, not for sex. It is about control. That is why, after one group took over another groups' country, or kingdom, whatever, they raped and pillaged those they conquered. It promotes fear. Just recently here, some guys broke into an old woman's house and raped her, she wasn't wearing a mini skirt, she was in her 80's. Give me a break.

I like the guy in the video's western dress, must be a brother from the East. He wears a tie, you know, around his neck, it's all freemasonic. Priesthoods, no matter what religion they sponser, are international, are all part of the same brotherhood. And rape is always, at least until maybe today, about male dominance over a female. It's old as the hills and twice as dusty as there is nothing new under the sun.
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