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ophello

Joined: 06 Jan 2002
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Location: Eugene, OR |
a fight to the end
Fri May 10, 2002 5:51 pm
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debunkers.
what went through your head when you looked into the sky and saw what so many people claim are chemicals? probably nothing. you looked, said "well, obviously, its just a regular contrail". you see another white painted sky again. "its amazing that so many people see this and think its a conspiracy". forum. you saw a photo of another one. a different one. someone claimed it was real. you said "its just an atmospheric disturbance". logical. practical. you dont need to waste your time with these lunatics. website. information about these "chemtrails" pour in. you decided to see what the kooks on the internet have to say. they all claim "i have proof, i have proof". yeah right, you say. photos everywhere. all different, every one with a claim "this is a chemtrail i saw after work etc. etc. etc." photo after endless photo of the same stuff you see in the sky all the time. you cant believe all this hysteria. clearly this isnt going on, nobody talks about it unless its online.
you spend a year doing this. its always the same.
suddenly some politician mentions the word "chemtrail" in a treaty to ban space-based weapons. this cant be! chemtrails dont exist. you fight. you debunk. you know the truth, so this guy must be wrong. sure enough, the treaty was revised. the subject is dropped. you won.
"and people are still going off about that! whats wrong with them?" but you know better.
more photos. more videos. more claims. more articles. more nonsense. it never ends.
when did this all start, you wonder? why did people suddenly all go crazy?
debunkers. wake up. |
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CanyonMan2002

Joined: 20 Apr 2002
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Location: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada |
Sat May 11, 2002 7:51 am
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Sat May 11, 2002 8:44 am
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art bell eludes to strange weather frequently...matt drudge referred to *something* weird with the weather sunday night...if a mainstream media outlet (48hrs,60 mins, dateline) would say something about chemtrails I might have more than an inkling of suspicion...
if Rush, G gordon liddy or Micheal Savage would say something about it I may re~examinine my position...a little quicker...
but the fact remains, if there are "sprayplanes" and sprayboys they must hangout some where...where are they ?
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WiseQuakker

Joined: 21 Aug 2000
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Sat May 11, 2002 9:28 am
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quote: but the fact remains, if there are "sprayplanes" and sprayboys they must hangout some where...where are they ?
They’re probably hiding out in many of the same places frequented by those who once threw the switches or dropped all those “harmless” bombs... and wearing their “There Is No Danger” t-shirts, of course...
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Sat May 11, 2002 9:53 am
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"art bell eludes to strange weather frequently...matt drudge referred to *something* weird with the weather sunday night...if a mainstream media outlet (48hrs,60 mins, dateline) would say something about chemtrails I might have more than an inkling of suspicion...
if Rush, G gordon liddy or Micheal Savage would say something about it I may re~examinine my position...a little quicker..."
The difference between yourself and persons believing in the chemtrail senario is simple. We make up our own minds with our own eyes and research, we don't need main stream media to confirm what we already know.
Tsk,tsk,and seeker, you claim to be an independant thinker!!
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Sun May 12, 2002 6:20 am
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The difference between yourself and persons believing in the chemtrail senario is simple. We make up our own minds with our own eyes and research, we don't need main stream media to confirm what we already know.
Tsk,tsk,and seeker, you claim to be an independant thinker!!
lol david....listen son...I passed my 3rd year (february) involved in "chemtrails" in various fashions, I *found* and read weather as a force multiplier before most of you were involved in the issue for cryin' out loud..I have already seen all the info that has been presented by all the *big fellas* in the chemtrail promotional spectrum, and having already done the research *moons* ago, I will at this juncture place my bet on the skeptical perspective...
what I was saying was not that the *media* influences me, quite the opposite, but the opinions of the 3 folks I posted I respect, if they were to take up the issue, I feel that their *standards* are quite high regarding substance over symbolism...and I would certainly take note...
dig
and quak, those fellas can't eat mre's all the time, just tell me where they park the planes, and which pizza hut they hang out at and I'll take it from there...K ?
sheesh
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Lulu
Joined: 22 Dec 2000
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Sun May 12, 2002 6:28 am
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They park the planes, of course, where they take off from...Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Perferred cruising altitude 30,000 to 31,000'....Mr. Jay has suggested I hang at the local airport lounge and get to know some pilots personally, so I can ask them all about contrails.
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mark sky

Joined: 14 Oct 2000
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Location: SW coast of Oregon |
Sun May 12, 2002 6:31 am
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DAn Rockwell~ was it you that moved my post on Eugenics?
or LuLu?
Or Thermit?
Eugenics is not a
"Other Trails
Mysteries, Conspiracies, and more... "
it is a God Aweful FACT
and may have a good deal more to do with CHEMTRAILS than solar obsquration
so whoever moved the post
contact me at the chemtrail central mail and explain themselves
as they replace the thread to where i placed it
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Location: Damnit...I'm a doctor jim |
Sun May 12, 2002 7:05 am
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They park the planes, of course, where they take off from...Wright Patterson Air Force Base. Perferred cruising altitude 30,000 to 31,000'....
bit of a stretch for me anyway, assuming that a base in ohio is *doing* the whole country......I have been to tinker afb here, seen planes that were very large up close...and no visible *nozzels* or apparati...the golf course at tinker is a carpenter's dream...flat as a board and easy to...nevermind...grins...
Mr. Jay has suggested I hang at the local airport lounge and get to know some pilots personally, so I can ask them all about contrails.
lol...jay's pimpin' now lol ...that's right out of a movie, can't remember the name...long drive today...*mentally spent*....
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Molliani
Joined: 16 Mar 2001
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Sun May 12, 2002 10:42 am
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by theseeker:
[if Rush, G gordon liddy or Micheal Savage would say something about it I may re~examinine my position...a little quicker...]
Seeker -
It's to your credit that you didn't add that
social enginer - Mr. Paul Harvey to your
list of credible references....
Read Marks post on eugenics. Re-think and research your position - you will not get the information you're looking for from any network source.... are you really .....
"theseeker"? Go for it !
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WiseQuakker

Joined: 21 Aug 2000
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Sun May 12, 2002 10:48 am
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You’re just not getting it, Seeker. Don’t you understand? Everyone else does. Including the... oh, never mind.
The message is clear — There is no danger...
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Sun May 12, 2002 4:14 pm
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"lol david....listen son...I passed my 3rd year (february) involved in "chemtrails" in various fashions, I *found* and read weather as a force multiplier before most of you were involved in the issue for cryin' out loud.."
And you know this about our time involved, how? You sound like BobB, are you two brothers, sisters, married cousins or other.
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mark sky

Joined: 14 Oct 2000
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Sun May 12, 2002 7:35 pm
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Thank you to whoever replaced my Eugenics post~ I did not realize at the time that new posts went on the front page of this site~
that could get a little bit wierd if there is a flame fest? just a thought
This thing where seeker found AF2025 while we were all still nurseing has me rolling on the floor
Does anyone remember several years ago when the seeker almost believed in chemtrails because he saw the trails, felt ill, and had this wierd smell around his house?
It took him several tence days until he *FOUND* the can of kerosene the local horse had kicked over dribbling and making the smell~~~~~~~~~then he returned to disbelief again
but hey seeker~
*YOU FOUND AF2025* FIRST
i'm impressed
Hey David (mind if i call you sonny boy?)
anyway laddie, as i was saying..... Jeeze T/S
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Dan Rockwell

Joined: 10 Dec 2001
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Location: Stamford, CT, USA |
Sun May 12, 2002 8:29 pm
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You might want to check out these threads too if you haven't read them yet
US non-leathal weapon reports suppressed http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001184.html
$1.1 Trillion Missing at DOD for 2000 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000619.html#7
quote: Originally posted by theseeker:
and quak, those fellas can't eat mre's all the time, just tell me where they park the planes, and which pizza hut they hang out at and I'll take it from there...K ?
For 1.1 Trillion, I bet they're not eating mre's T/S  |
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KrissaTMC2

Joined: 05 Feb 2002
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Location: Greenwich, CT, USA |
Sun May 12, 2002 10:35 pm
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You've got a point Dan - LOL
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