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kill-da-mon
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Secrets Revealed Speeds Up "Chaff" - The Chemtrail
 Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:43 am
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Anyone who has surfed the net's uncensored pages for any period of time has no doubt heard about chemtrails. There are several schools of thought on the subject, ranging from the mundane republicorp "Ain't no such thing" to the ultra-conspiracy theorist's "It's all a plot of poison huge portions of the population." Figuring that the truth is somewhere in between the extremes usually, I was intrigued this morning to receive a pointer to the July issue of the Idaho Observer which quotes a GAO report. The thinking seems to be that what most of us would call "chemtrails" may really be huge use of military "chaff." Key part of the story:
"Once chaff reaches the ground, it breaks down into particles small enough to inhale. Though military spokespeople insist that chaff is not harmful, the GAO report concluded that health effects are unknown and more studies are needed. "
Naturally, being a curious sort, I went looking for Google results at [+gao +chaff]. Sure enough, there really is a 1998 GAO report that says:
"GAO noted that: (1) chaff is used worldwide in conjunction with military training, testing, and other assigned missions; (2) in fiscal year (FY) 1997, the Air Force reported using about 1.8 million bundles worldwide, Navy and Marine Corps aircraft used more than 354,000 bundles and 593 rolls, and Navy combat ships used about 10,000 large bundles; (3) DOD records indicate that FY 1998 inventories include more than 37 million bundles and more than 141,000 rolls of chaff; (4) the Air Force holds about 77 percent of the bundles, while the Navy and Marine Corps hold all the rolls; (5) the Army has some mission needs but possesses and uses little chaff in peacetime training or testing; (6) while DOD components report that chaff is an effective means of defense for aircraft, ships, and related weapons systems, DOD and other agencies have identified some unintended and potential side effects of chaff; (7) chaff can affect safety by interfering with air traffic control radar; ( chaff can also affect weather radar observations and the operation of friendly radar systems, especially when vehicles stir up chaff that has settled on the ground; (9) the services have a number of ongoing initiatives to address concerns about the unintended and potential effects of chaff; (10) for example, DOD has entered into or is negotiating agreements with other federal agencies to address issues related to commercial air safety, weather forecasting, and environmental impacts on public lands; (11) also, the Navy has started a program to develop degradable chaff that is estimated to cost about 40 percent more than the current chaff; (12) while intended as beneficial, the Navy has not yet defined the operational and environmental benefits that could result from this program; (13) notwithstanding DOD's actions, some concerns continue to be raised by the public and federal agencies about the potentially harmful or undesirable effects of chaff on the environment; (14) also, some of DOD's studies cite additional areas where questions have been raised about the unintended effects of chaff; (15) DOD has not systematically followed up on these questions or on the recommendations of these reports to determine whether they merit additional review; and (16) DOD continues to retain lead-based chaff in its inventory even though this type of chaff has not been manufactured since 1987 and is reportedly no longer in use.
Naturally, as the word spread about "chaff" use, corpgov went into overdrive, reporting that "chaff" had no serious consequences - and as you'd expect, by 2000 environmental groups were up in arms about it. The Las Vegas Journal-Review reported in 2000 that a Naval Research Laboratories report in particular was questioned:
"The report highlights the Department of Defense's lackadaisical attitude towards human health risks by giving a green light to continued use of chaff while noting that several health questions remain unanswered," Grace Potorti, director of the Reno-based Rural Alliance for Military Accountability, said Tuesday."
Naturally, the military contends that there's no harm to use of chaff. But what surprised me deeply was the amount of "chaff" that was being used in 2000 over the continental US. Specifically around Fallon Naval Air Station, located in Nevada!
"To put the amount of chaff expended by aviators training at NAS Fallon into perspective, I offer these facts: First, only about one-third of the 42,000 annual military flights based out of Fallon use chaff in the course of their training missions. Second, over the last five years, the amount of chaff annually dispensed of over the Fallon Military Operating Area averages about 1/4 ounce per acre. As the report describes, the chemical composition of chaff is essentially the same as desert dust, and the amounts expended into the environment are several orders of magnitude less than EPA standards for dust, vehicle exhaust, power generation and industry. "
To bring things up to nearer current for you, in 1998 the GAO was reporting that increased use of this "chaff" stuff was planned:
"The continuous stream technique, called saturation chaff, may be used by aircraft to cover a large area. By 2005 or 2006, the Army also plans to use saturation chaff to mask vehicle and troop movements. Using a cutter, 360 pounds of chaff from nine 40-pound rolls can be deployed in 10 minutes. Depending on the method and the number of aircraft, such releases could disperse billions of fibers. The B-52 can carry about 750 seven-ounce boxes of chaff; each box contains up to 11 million fibers that can be expelled continuously or in bursts. Most chaff bundles contain millions of fibers. For example, the chaff bundles used most by the Air Force (RR-188) and the Navy (RR-144) contain more than 5 million individual fibers each, and the Navy’s Zuni rocket warhead (RR-182) contains more than 100 million fibers."
So if you're thinking "chemtrails" and want to know where you are most likely to see them, the GAO's September 1998 report includes this handy "chaff/chemtrail" map on Page 6:
Notice how Washington DC is not impacted, but most of the rest of the country is? And this is a 1998 map, mind you.
The history of "chaff" goes back to 1954 when it was reported that the government's Chemical Corp pressed the small fiber technology forward:
"Applied research on ground and air munitions showed progress along certain lines. In filling a requirement for practical counter-measures against radar, the Corps developed a nickel coated glass fiber (Agent, Radar Screening, E10) which is approximately 400 times more effective, weight for weight, than chaff. Investigation is being continued to find the most efficient way of disseminating the coated fibers. (SECRET)"
A couple of conclusions present themselves here:
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First, "chemtrails" are real, but they are likely, based on the available reports, advanced forms of "chaff".
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Dispersal over the USA has been widespread and heavy for at least a decade.
And, the military's use of the "chaff" technology (a/k/a/ chemtrails) is not going away any time soon. The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (www.darpa.mil) notes in their [unclassified] FY 2007 budget buried on page 363 of 453 that "chaff" may have an important role in standoff explosives and concealed weapons detection:
"The Standoff Explosives and Concealed Weapons Detection program will develop a standoff system for the detection of improvised explosive devices (IEDs), suicide bombs and vehicle bombs that have become weapons of havoc and destruction in current urban operations; as well as a low cost concealed weapons detection system. This program will explore various phenomenologies that may permit explosive detections. The first approach will examine chemical approaches such as spectrometry using IR photothermal signature of the explosive compounds, or standoff detection using molecular tags that change physical, electronic, or optical properties upon exposure to emitted vapors. These tags provide specific molecular information on the signature chemicals, thus enhancing specificity in the cluttered environment. They could be deployed as dust or chaff that can be dispersed in the air or sprayed on suspect vehicles, or into larger sensor structures that could be used to integrate the concentration of vapor over time."
Whether current "chaff" operations are already using "chemical tags" for identification is not known. However, what is known is that whether by intent or accident, the reports on the web that "chemtrail residue" contains lots of other chemicals/contaminants, appear to be justified claims.
With electronic warfare and it's opposite, electronic countermeasures (along with electronic counter-counter measures) being a fertile purchasing area for corporate defense contractors, we have to expect that chemtrails/chaff use will continue to increase. Especially if outfits like DARPA are even partially successful in tying "chaff" to real current military problems like improvised explosive devices (IED's) in battle zones like Iraq.
Like depleted uranium munitions, banned by the UN but used by the US, there's no civilian oversight of health consequences of either long term DU or "chaff"/chemtrail use on America's home soil. Yes, we supposedly have oversight in CONgress, but you should have figured by now from the Abramoff scandal that a whispered "Want to buy some pictures?" can push votes around with contempt and disregard for the long term health of us non-elevated citizens. Heres some chemcloud pics i took today here in Denver, Co. :http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/killdamon/PICT0124.jpg , http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/killdamon/PICT0125.jpg , http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/killdamon/PICT0126.jpg , http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/killdamon/PICT0127.jpg , http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/killdamon/PICT0129.jpg . http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/killdamon/PICT0124.jpg  |
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marklookingup
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:29 am
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Kill-da-mon,
Those pictures you took could have been taken in the Pac. NW. this afternoon. As the rain clouds began clearing, I saw the identical chem-clouds. It blows me away. |
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Markus
Joined: 30 May 2006
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Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:38 pm
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Hey kill-da-mon
Great find on the Chaff document. I was not surprised to see NH/VT on the map of where this stuff is used. I have seen these fibers falling from the sky. I also have observed identical cloud formations as the ones you have posted.
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divine chronic
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Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:57 am
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if it was only "chaff", then why does our government and media continue to deny the existance of it. remember its only "vapor trails".
i dont believe that chemtrails are Chaff, becuase i know it has an effect on our health. |
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