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Ellyn
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ELECTROLYSIS & BARIUM by Clifford E. Carnicom
 Wed May 29, 2002 2:23 am
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ELECTROLYSIS & BARIUM
Clifford E Carnicom
May 27 2002
http://www.carnicom.com/precip1.htm
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Duncan Kunz
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Wed May 29, 2002 5:36 am
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Unhappy Trails
Joined: 10 May 2002
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Location: Seattle, WA |
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Wed May 29, 2002 6:45 am
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Mr. Kuntz, I have no idea who you are but apparently you must be breathing some really good air. You have no idea what is happening to the rest of us. You must be in a fly free, chem free zone. I'm glad there are such places left. You are fortunate.
My father is a retired Boeing physicist, you probably know him. He's seen the spraying, has pictures of particulate matter pouring out of these trails, and he's also been hospitalized because of it. Maybe you should go toe to toe with him. Try convincing a fellow Boeing elitist that nothing is going on. Hey, why don't you come vacation out in the Great Pacific Northwest this summer? Bring the grand kids. Do a little boating and sunbathing while you're here. Maybe you could give them a grandfatherly explanation of why the sun has black rings around it everyday, and why the jets are making checkerboards, and giant Xs in the sky. And while you're rubbing cortisone and lotions all over their itchy, burning skin, you can explain to them why the grey and white stuff billowing from these trails is absolutely harmless. Just vapor trails at high altitudes, right? You be sure to bring a lot of beer to cut the dust Mr. Kuntz and koolaid for the kids. Ahh..Washington, The Evergreen State. You be sure to look us up when you get here. One Boeing employee to another. Oh, did I mention we have a very prestigious childrens hospital here in Seattle?. You be sure to bring your insurance cards O.K? Just in case of emergencies. |
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Duncan Kunz
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Wed May 29, 2002 4:06 pm
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IZAKOVIC
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Location: Rijeka, Croatia (Europe) |
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Wed May 29, 2002 5:46 pm
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" ..You seem to believe that, by my post above, I see no problem with chemtrails. I am not attacking the concept of contrails per se; that is frowned upon in this forum. ..."
Ehm..It is believed that chemrails in some cases could cause concentration problems.
Or is it a manifestation of Reverse Speech (tm) backwards?
As this is not the first time, David Oates could find it most interesting.
IZAKOVIC http://www.deepspace4.com
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Duncan Kunz
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Wed May 29, 2002 6:02 pm
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Duncan Kunz
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Wed May 29, 2002 6:23 pm
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.stpecnoc eseht fo emos ta wols rehtar ma I ;naiga ti nialpxe dluoc uoy spahreP .t’nod I oN |
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noblegas
Joined: 13 May 2002
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Wed May 29, 2002 9:55 pm
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Kunz,
I have a friend who says no when you say yes, black when you say white, sand when you say sea. Are you the same type person that said, on 9/11, "Our government's great, bush knew nothing". As we can see with that, right wing, left wing, liberal, conservative are all agreeing with the "nuts" who thought this on 9/12. If you were alive in 1964, you probably would have agreed with The Gulf of Tonkin being the cue to go to Vietnam. Of course, our government made that all up and 50,000 Americans lost their lives because of a lie. I work with a fellow who said that chemtrails are there to protect us from global warming so we should welcome them. The U.S. government has done experiments on it's own people before. From the air, microwaves, radiation isn't bad (the 50's), poisons in food, Anthrax vaccine, Agent Orange, and others. You don't think they would do it again? YOU ARE A FOOL!
I believe you fear the prospect that "Daddy" Uncle Sam could do this to the people. Like the mother who believes her murderous son is a good boy. Or are you a Yahoo America All The Way, United We Have Rashes, or God Blush America kind of person? I don't know you, but it seems like even in the face of reality, you deny it.
Why don't you do some chemical analysis of the atmosphere after a spraying with your method? Will you find Barium, Aluminum, Magnesium, ad nauseum contained in said sample. Most debunkers deal with subjects that are vaporous at best. Ghosts, trances, UFO's, Mind-reading, After Death experiences, and Percognition. Some of this may be true. We should be open minded, investigative, and logical in our approach. Sometimes the answer to something may come from a farmer, sometimes from a Physicist. Ithink what is pissing you off is that you are being de-bunked from the people that are truly concerned with their own and loved ones health. |
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Duncan Kunz
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Thu May 30, 2002 12:32 am
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Dan Rockwell
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Location: Stamford, CT, USA |
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Thu May 30, 2002 2:03 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Duncan Kunz:
.stpecnoc eseht fo emos ta wols rehtar ma I ;naiga ti nialpxe dluoc uoy spahreP .t’nod I oN
You had me worried for a minute Duncan. - LOL
Reverse speech is an interesting concept and one that I am quite familiar with and also one that I have used once rather successfully.
David John Oates Interviewed
By Kenneth and Dee Burke http://www.leadingedgenews.com/reverse.htm
quote:
LE: David, exactly what is "reverse speech?"
David: Essentially, I have discovered another form of human communication. I believe that I can validate and prove that the process of language is twofold. The human brain is constructing the sound of speech in such a fashion that it delivers two messages simultaneously. The first message is forward, and obviously that is how I am speaking to you now.
The second message is in reverse, and mixed amongst the gibberish of normal reversed order, you can hear precise phrases as clear as I am speaking to you now. I term this "speech reversals." They are normally five or six words long, are grammatically correct, and relate directly to what is said forward. I believe speech reversals are a reflection of what the person is really thinking or feeling at the time of speaking.
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Duncan Kunz
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Thu May 30, 2002 2:12 am
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Dan Rockwell
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Thu May 30, 2002 2:21 am
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I've tried it and was rather surprised by the results. I had to go to a meeting once that a few of the ranking members of my fire company had with a few city officials and just happened to have a tape recorder with me to take notes. - One of the officials kept making comments about his wife and wanting to not be involved with the meeting and wanting to just go home when I played a few of his comments in reverse. - Less than a year later, he went looking for a better job so that he could spend more time with his wife. - The mayor had him working some rather late hours and he just got tired of it and had enough.
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Bonehead9
Joined: 08 May 2002
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Location: suburb of Chicago, IL US |
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Thu May 30, 2002 3:07 am
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All of this is besides the point. Is there anyone here who believes that carnicom's "research" is anything other than the total $#@#! that it is?
I agreee with Duncan. This guy worries me. Isn't this how cults get started? He reminds me of that guy in San Diego that thought the "mothership" was coming so he and all of his followers commited suicide. At the very least, I have no doubt that some of his paranoia is justified, He is starting to fit the looney/ domestic terrorist profile. |
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Location: Damnit...I'm a doctor jim |
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Thu May 30, 2002 3:21 am
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it's $#@#!...I'm surprised he did not pull out the *afro~sheen*...lol..
This guy worries me. Isn't this how cults get started?
bonehead, he's been at this *weird science* 3 years....hardly a start...in fact his milk has even gotten sour with art bell...always liked art...
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