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Unhappy Trails
Joined: 10 May 2002
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FAA Claims Air Force Jets Leaving Seattle
 Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:46 pm
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In a phone conversation with tha FAA Military division an aid told me this morning that the Special Air Force jets are leaving the Seattle area next week. They stated they had been on a Top Secret classified mission and it was nearing completion. Of course they couldn't elaborate as to what that mission was, they did say they had been doing a lot of 'work' off the coast.
The FAA did mention that this was a special division of the Air Force and they had come from various areas of the country and would be leaving shortly. Sigh of relief.
She did say though that part of the 'exercises' involved simulating hijackings and response time. I very politely inquired if that was why they were painting clear skies white and putting black haloes around the sun with giant Xs. She laughed and told me I needed to talk to ROC Headquarters about that and gave me a number to call. It was disconnected. |
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PacerLJ35
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 12:03 am
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The FAA has a military division? That's a first. I guess you called the FSDO up in Seattle...maybe I ought to give them a call and ask for the "military division".
Hey, and regarding "Top Secret classified" missions....I'm just chuckling here, because if it was "Top Secret", the FAA certainly wouldn't know about it, and if they did happen to know, they certainly wouldn't acknowledge to some Joe on the phone that a mission existed. |
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Unhappy Trails
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 2:55 am
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A real nice lady did just that. Feel free to call them. Auburn Washington. Air Traffic Control Tower. Ask for the military desk. Want the phone number?
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Unhappy Trails on 06-10-2002] |
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PacerLJ35
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 3:10 am
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Ummm, is it the Auburn Airport? They don't have a tower there...and I have a book that has all the phone numbers to each airfield anyways. And they don't list a tower frequency, just a CTAF. The airport identifier that I'm looking at is S50, Auburn Municipal Airport. And they have a 3,400 foot long runway...I doubt they would even need a "military desk"... |
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Unhappy Trails
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 3:41 am
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I just typed a long reply to your questions, but first...let me ask what you plan on doing with it? Why is it important to you? |
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PacerLJ35
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 3:45 am
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I'd like to talk to this "military desk" myself and ask them some more specific questions that you probably can't ask because of a lack of a security clearance. |
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Unhappy Trails
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 5:31 am
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More specific in what regard? What do you hope to accomplish? |
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PacerLJ35
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 5:47 am
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First, to verify that you did indeed talk to an FAA employee who works at a "military desk". Second, if you did indeed talk to them, I'd like to ask them exactly what kind of operation it was, and whether or not you took it out of context.
In short, trails, I'd like to verify your claim. |
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Unhappy Trails
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:17 am
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Hey pacer, you've got all the manuals...look 'em up. I'm sorry if you're having trouble finding them. Maybe there's a typo in your book. Call information, I'm sure they'ld be glad to help you. Anyone living in or near the Seattle area, they're in the new phone book pg.60, lower right corner. Just ask for the 'military desk' to verify my claim. Sorry pacer, I won't give you anymore than I already have. |
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mark sky
Joined: 14 Oct 2000
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:37 am
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sigh
opps |
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PacerLJ35
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 3:30 pm
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Oh, now you're going to back down, Trails? I thought you were going to give me the number? Let me get this straight...you called the CONTROL TOWER at the AUBURN MUNICIPAL AIRPORT in Washtington state, correct? Or was it a different number?
I've got all the numbers for the towers that actually exist, but Auburn is an uncontrolled field, basically a runway with a few hangars, and a place to get fuel. Maybe I'll call the FBO (Auburn Flight Services) and see if they've heard of this military desk. Maybe they can check p. 60 of the yellow pages for me.
Alpha, the FAA does regulate military traffic insofar as when that military traffic is flying through the National Airspace System. But they do not have a seperate "military" division. If a military aircraft breaks a FAR (Federal Aviation Regulation), the FAA reports the violation to the aircrew's command, which then deals with the problem.
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PacerLJ35
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 4:10 pm
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"...I needed to talk to ROC Headquarters..."
Just out of curiousity, what is ROC? |
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PHANTOM911
Joined: 31 Oct 2001
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:33 pm
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You are being Paced!
Unhappy you're still faily new,
So I have some advice for you,
On this you can depend,
Your words you must defend,
Illuminated can read too!
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(The following is a joke, or attempt thereof.)
Yo Pacer,
I remember when ROC was The Republic of China. Maybe they run the FAA. They got enough forces in country right now!
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Unhappy Trails
Joined: 10 May 2002
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Tue Jun 11, 2002 11:55 pm
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My claims are the claims of the FAA. I merely stated what they had told me. I thought my fellow Seattlites and Washingtonians would like to know that the jets are leaving.
The information I got was miniscule. After 15 minutes on the phone 6 tiny pieces of information were thrown my way to appease my concerns. What is there to defend? I'm reluctant to post a phone number as this would trigger an onslaught of calls, which in turn would cause them to disconnect. I might just want to talk to them in the future.
If you are who you say you are pacer, how come you're not privy to the FAA having a military desk? It only makes sense that there would be someone coordinating flights between commercial aircraft and military. Especially when they're as close as McChord AFB and Seatac airport. It makes total sense to me.
What prompted the call in the first place is that when the military have been in the air, the commercial airliners have been grounded untill they leave. Then one after the other takes off. My friend who is a retired Airforce pilot said if anyone knows whats going on it would be the Auburn branch of the FAA. He was right. They did know but couldn't really talk about it. And the ROC? I've not a clue who they are. The number was disconnected.
I'm done with this thread. Anyone in the Seattle area is welcome to look up the information I gave earlier and call and verify. Maybe we can all get together and celebrate. A salute to our Armed Forces as they fly away wondering what the hell it was they were spraying us with.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Unhappy Trails on 06-11-2002] |
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Chem11
Joined: 21 Apr 2001
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Wed Jun 12, 2002 12:38 am
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If by some miracle the chemjets are vacating Puget Sound, I will fly back to SeaWa and buy everyone in King County who posts on this board drinks at Polly Esther's for an entire night.
You gotta dance to every ABBA track the Dj's spin, though... |
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