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The UK has been part of the US missile defence system for several years now but only last year did some politicians become aware of this.
Now Poland and Czech Republic are gearing up for WW3! Russia says they are at risk of being attacked by Russian missiles if they accept US missile defence systems.
We have known these missile defence systems do not work for many, many decades, Russian scientists always find better ways to engineer rocketry missile systems. The UK is still maintaining its nuclear power and upgrading its nuclear arsenal to 21st century WMD because the elite masters of power want more wars. We are using 200 year old science here still. Very strange. Yes, I know how long we have had nuclear technology and how long it was possible for.
Everything the world does is still surrounded by death and war.
WARSAW (AP)--The Polish government has officially told the United States it is interested in opening negotiations on the possibility of hosting a U.S. missile defense site, officials said.
The Polish Foreign Ministry issued a statement late Friday saying it had delivered a formal diplomatic note to the U.S. Embassy in Warsaw earlier in the day - a formal step that followed expressions of interest by Polish Prime Minister Jaroslaw Kaczynski.
The statement said that whatever agreements are eventually reached "should contribute to the strengthening security for Poland, the United States of America and international security."
Officials at the U.S. Embassy weren't immediately available for comment Saturday, and it wasn't immediately clear when talks would begin.
The U.S. is seeking to set up a site for 10 missile interceptors in Poland and a radar base in the Czech Republic, a system that U.S. officials say would be geared toward detecting and destroying missile attacks against the U.S. and Europe from the Middle East.
Two other bases - at Fort Greely, Alaska and Vandenberg Air Force Base in California - would protect the U.S. from threats from North Korea, U.S. officials have said.
Russia, however, is strongly opposed and a Russian general warned Monday that Poland and the Czech Republic risked being targeted by Russian missiles if they agreed to host the U.S. bases.
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http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/other/display.var.1217246.0.0.php
Why UK is secretly lobbying for son of StarWars
as if the prospect of a new generation of nuclear weapons was not bad enough, the revelation that Tony Blair and Gordon Brown have been discussing the possibility of siting a US missile defence system, the so-called "son of Star Wars", on British soil was bound to incense the anti-nuclear lobby.
According to an article in yesterday's Economist magazine, the Prime Minister has been discreetly waging a campaign since last autumn to secure America's interceptor for Britain. The campaign could only be discreet as Poland and the Czech Republic, both recently granted membership of the European Union, are hoping to secure the interceptor for themselves.
Downing Street did confirm that the Prime Minister had been involved in discussions with the US but, apart from saying that negotiations were not as far advanced as the article implied, gave away few details.
A spokesman said: "The objective of these conversations was to make sure that the UK is kept in consideration to be one of the locations for the system should the US press ahead with the system. It is purely about being part of the conversation. These discussions are at a very early stage."
The Prime Minister believes that hosting the interceptors would make Britain as well as America more secure, and it is also possible that he believes its very presence would keep Britain at the top table in both Washington and Brussels.
Whatever his reasons, he, or his successor - most likely Gordon Brown - can look forward to a battle royal with Labour party colleagues and anti-nuclear protesters if the Americans decide that Britain can have it.
High-profile protests over nuclear-armed cruise missiles at Greenham Common galvanised the anti-nuclear lobby in the 1980s and 1990s. In the early 21st century, an even more sophisticated lobby could be organised at home and abroad as experts predict a new arms race with Russia and China.
Paul Ingram, senior analyst at the British American Security Information Council (Basic) defence policy think-tank, said the proposal to site the interceptors in Britain was grossly premature.
"If there is any suggestion in future this is aimed at Russia, they are going to want to swamp these defences with more missiles so it does drive a missile race," he said.
Vladimir Putin, the Russian President, perhaps smarting that he is not in a position to finance a missile shield system of his own, has already complained that US plans to extend the shield to Europe would trigger an inevitable arms race, and a Russian general has let it be known that Russian missiles would target any interceptors in eastern Europe.
It is unclear if Russia is worried about having such a strategically important US presence in its midst but Poland and the Czech Republic believe Russia is on the defensive, trying to scare or blackmail them over the hopes of attracting the interceptor.
The development of the anti-ballistic missile defence system has been haphazard. For the past four years, the US has been improving a limited shield to protect itself and its allies against missiles from terrorists or rogue states, principally Iran and North Korea.
Interceptor sites already exist in Alaska and California and, although there is still doubt about its capability, the Pentagon is now considering the placement of silos with 10 missile interceptors in Europe. The Americans believe this deployment will greatly enhance the chances of destroying any long-range missiles fired from the Middle East.
In 2003, the US paid for the upgrade of Britain's early-warning radar station at an RAF base at Fylingdales in Yorkshire so that it could play its part in the missile defence system, but today it appears that Britain is trailing in the race to host the interceptor.
No sooner had David Johnson, the US deputy chief of mission in London, told the BBC that the US was primarily looking at the Czech Republic and Poland to locate the system than Rick Lehner, a spokesman for the US Missile Defence Agency, confirmed the best location to defeat long-range missiles from Iran was in eastern Europe.
"Those are the best locations, the ones that best meet the technical requirements. We can defend Europe and the US from that site," he said.
Gordon Brown elected not to comment, but his aides said all costs of installing an interceptor on British soil would be met by the US. MPs were caught on the hop, having had no idea that discussions were taking place behind the scenes.
The Tories kept the door open for further discussions. Seeking confirmation the system would be applicable and practical, Liam Fox, Shadow Defence spokesman, said: "We would want to be involved in discussions about the abilities of the technology, the potential benefits and to look at the potential risks coming from increased defence programmes in countries like Iran and Russia."
Ian Davidson, Glasgow South West Labour MP, said: "I am astonished that we have gone so far so fast in complete secrecy. It seems to indicate that we are in Bush's pocket. It seems we're in competition with Putin and China to be a missile silo for the US without any debt or discussion. I see no justification for us adopting this position."
Sandra Osborne, Labour MP for Ayr, Carrick and Cumnock , admitted she was instinctively against the system but added it should not be considered without widespread public consultation.
Kate Hudson, chairwoman of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, said: "The system threatens to provoke international instability, arms proliferation, a space arms race and will fuel the ideology of first strikes. The system is a threat to peace and security, not a path to it."
According to sources on both sides of the Atlantic, a decision is not expected immediately. However, it may be that the US has decided it will site the interceptors in eastern Europe, not least because it would provoke less of a reaction.
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SEE VIDEO: BY VISITING THE URL BELOW AT EURONEWS
UK IS UPGRADING NUCLEAR TRIDENT WMD SYSTEM AND INSTALLING STATE OF THE ART NUCLEAR MISSILE DEFENCE SYSTEM EUROPEAN AND MID EAST WIDE READY FOR THE UPCOMING NUKEM WARS!? EITHER WAY RUSSIA CAN BYPASS ANY MISSILE DEFENCE SYSTEM. LETS HOPE THEY ARM THE REST OF THE FREE WORLD IN DEFENCE OF THEIR INDEPENDENT SOVEREIGNTY THAT HAS NOT GIVEN IN TO US-UK TERROR-WORLD GOVERNMENT!
http://euronews.net/index.php?page=info&article=408267&lng=1
UK may get involved in US missile defence system
Britain has confirmed it has had talks with Washington over the possibility of cooperation on a US missile defence system. Satellites and radars would be used to help intercept enemy missiles. However, opposition is already being voiced about the prospect of a missile-interceptor site on UK soil.
Labour MP Phyllis Starkey is one of those expressing doubts: "Even if it worked, I don't think it would protect Britain against the sorts of risks we face over the next two decades. As to views within the parliamentary Labour party, obviously this issue hasn't been discussed for some time, but I would guess that those concerns are widespread."
Poland and the Czech Republic have already been approached about hosting parts of the US defence shield, despite objections from Moscow. On Friday Warsaw formally agreed to begin detailed negotiations with Washington. Russia says it is worried the system will upset Europe's balance of power.
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UK TRIDENT PROTESTS AGAINST NUCLEAR WMD IN UK
Hundreds of Trident protesters take to streets
HUNDREDS of protesters were today set to take part in a Bin the Bomb march in Glasgow.
They were to include church leaders, union chiefs and politicians from several parties, with a rally in Glasgow's George Square demanding the Trident nuclear missile system be ditched.
The event is tied in with a rally in London's Trafalgar Square calling for troops to be brought home from Iraq, as well as an end to Britain's nuclear capability.
Prime Minister Tony Blair set out plans late last year to replace Trident, based on the Clyde at Faslane, at an estimated cost of up to £20 billion. He said retention of the nuclear deterrent was "crucial" to national security.
The Right Reverend Alan McDonald, moderator of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, and Cardinal Keith O'Brien, head of the Catholic church, were due at the rally.
Reverend McDonald said: "For 25 years the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland has consistently argued that nuclear weapons are morally and theologically wrong and I have always strongly supported that decision.
"As the government prepares to make the decision about renewing Trident it is now make-your-mind-up-time for all of us."
Other speakers included former Labour communities minister and Edinburgh North and Leith MSP Malcolm Chisholm, who quit office after voting against the Executive on Trident. SNP leader Alex Salmond, Solidarity leader Tommy Sheridan, Matt Smith of Unison and CND vice-president Bruce Kent were also speaking.
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In other NEWS:
GREENPEACE BLOCK TRIDENT WEAPONS SYSTEM AS THEIR BOAT IS RAIDED BY POLICE:
45 held in Trident base protest
Feb 23 2007
Forty-five people have been arrested after a blockade of Britain's nuclear submarine base.
Seven Greenpeace vessels, including the 164ft former icebreaker Arctic Sunrise, attempted to gain entry to Faslane Naval Base on the Clyde as part of an anti-nuclear protest.
With six inflatable speedboats, the vessel breached the base's restricted area at around 8am on Friday, sparking a game of cat-and-mouse with up to 18 police boats.
The day culminated in the storming and seizure of the Arctic Sunrise by police after a five-hour stand-off.
Faslane is home to the UK's Trident nuclear submarine fleet and frequently the scene of demonstrations. Greenpeace timed its action to coincide with the visit of a delegation of Labour MPs to Faslane.
45 held in Trident base protest
Feb 23 2007
Forty-five people have been arrested after a blockade of Britain's nuclear submarine base.
Seven Greenpeace vessels, including the 164ft former icebreaker Arctic Sunrise, attempted to gain entry to Faslane Naval Base on the Clyde as part of an anti-nuclear protest.
With six inflatable speedboats, the vessel breached the base's restricted area at around 8am on Friday, sparking a game of cat-and-mouse with up to 18 police boats.
The day culminated in the storming and seizure of the Arctic Sunrise by police after a five-hour stand-off.
Faslane is home to the UK's Trident nuclear submarine fleet and frequently the scene of demonstrations. Greenpeace timed its action to coincide with the visit of a delegation of Labour MPs to Faslane.
Within two hours of arriving in the restricted area, the six rigid inflatables had been rounded up and a total of 16 people arrested.
Some people were picked up from the sea, Ministry of Defence Police said.
The Arctic Sunrise, commanded by a former Argentinian naval officer, meanwhile carried on trying to manoeuvre towards a boom protecting the nuclear submarines.
It eventually dropped anchor just outside the boom, with its crew refusing a series of police requests to move.
Around 20 officers armed with battering rams eventually clambered on board, smashing their way into the bridge and seizing control of the boat. A total of 29 people were arrested when the boat landed and were remanded in custody until Monday.
http://icberkshire.icnetwork.co.uk/chronicle/uk/tm_headline=45-held-in-trident-base-protest&method=full&objectid=18668196&siteid=106484-name_page.html
who is willing to risk going to jail in fight for a free fair peaceful world?
45 held in Trident base protest
Feb 23 2007
Forty-five people have been arrested after a blockade of Britain's nuclear submarine base.
Seven Greenpeace vessels, including the 164ft former icebreaker Arctic Sunrise, attempted to gain entry to Faslane Naval Base on the Clyde as part of an anti-nuclear protest.
With six inflatable speedboats, the vessel breached the base's restricted area at around 8am on Friday, sparking a game of cat-and-mouse with up to 18 police boats.
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Trident protestors target Ilford
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PLANS to replace the UK's aging fleet of nuclear submarines drew the wrath of protestors in Ilford Town Centre on Saturday.
The south west Essex Greenpeace group joined forces with Redbridge against the war to collect signatures for a petition demanding that Ilford South MP, Mike Gapes, lend his support to their campaign.
The House of Commons is voting on replacement next month but campaigners say that any replacement of the weapons will make a nonsense of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty which the UK signed in 1970.
Greenpeace campaigner, Simon Clydesdale, said: "Building new nuclear weapons is against international law. And deciding to build new nuclear weapons now, at a time when the UK faces no foreseeable military threat makes no sense at all. Our Government needs to lead the world towards genuine disarmament, not fuel a new arms race.
"If the Government is serious about security, it must devote resources towards tackling climate change now instead of spending £76 billion on building and servicing new nuclear weapons."
Speakers including Leyton and Wanstead MP, Harry Cohen, will be at a public meeting of the Redbridge stop the war coalition on Thursday at 7pm at Barking Methodist Church, London Road, opposite James Street. For more information call 07999 961 717.
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Ukraine still whoring out to the USA, when they a part of the Totalitarian NEU Soviet Union aka EEC (Nazi founded EEC Europäische Wirtschaftsgemeinschaft) EU. They seem to think they are independent and free under a Federal Totalitarian Dictatorship.
World government unravels: http://ec.europa.eu/comm/external_relations/ukraine/intro/memo05_106.htm
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KIEV (AP)--Ukraine's main opposition leader warned Saturday that the ex-Soviet republic is at risk of sliding back under Russia's influence, and is particularly vulnerable to energy pressure from its giant neighbor.
But Yulia Tymoshenko said that she heads to the U.S. on Sunday to reassure U.S. leaders that the Orange Revolution team that set Ukraine on its pro-Western path is reunited and ready to provide tough opposition to Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych's more Russian-leaning government.
On Saturday, Tymoshenko's bloc signed an agreement to work as a united opposition force with the party of President Viktor Yushchenko, giving them more than 200 lawmakers in the 450-seat parliament. Uniting will help them ensure that Yanukovych's parliamentary coalition cannot override presidential vetoes of legislation.
"We came through many tests, through many mistakes ... our union today is not due to circumstances, it is not a spontaneous decision," Tymoshenko told The Associated Press after the signing ceremony in parliament. "It is a decision dictated by those Ukrainians who want to see Ukraine European."
Tymoshenko was one of the driving forces behind the 2004 Orange Revolution, which helped bring the pro-Western Yushchenko to power. The Kremlin had openly backed Yushchenko's opponent - the man who is the current premier - and his defeat was seen as a major blow to Moscow's efforts to keep this nation of 47 million under its sway.
But Yushchenko's hesitant governing style has proved a disappointment for many Ukrainians who expected quick change and a strong embrace from Europe, and last year, Yanukovych's party triumphed in parliamentary elections.
Yanukovych put together a governing majority and returned to power as premier, governing jointly with Yushchenko.
But Yushchenko has become increasingly sidelined, and Tymoshenko said that under Yanukovych, Russia's influence was growing. "I don't want to be silent about this," she said, noting that pressure was particularly strong in the energy sector.
"Really, there is energy pressure on Ukraine which can be used and is used today for political control of the country," she said, recalling the bitter 2006 natural gas dispute between Russia and Ukraine and recent talks about transferring some control over Ukraine's pipelines to Russia.
Tymoshenko said that she wanted to use her visit to the U.S. to tell U.S. leaders what is happening in Ukraine. She is scheduled to meet with Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
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Illegal nuclear weapons in the UK: breaking international laws.
Q&A: Trident replacement
Tony Blair has outlined plans to update and replace the UK's Trident nuclear weapons system.
Why is a replacement being discussed?
There are three parts to the Trident system - submarines, missiles and warheads. Although each component has years of use left, they cannot last indefinitely and would begin to end their working lives sometime in the 2020s. A replacement system would need many years of development, so it is being debated now.
Which option has Tony Blair backed?
Tony Blair says the UK must keep a nuclear weapons system. It will do this by joining a US programme to extend the life of the American-made D5 Trident missiles into the 2040s and by building a new generation of submarines in the UK. A decision on new nuclear warheads is not needed until the next parliament, the white paper says. If they are needed they would be made in Britain.
How much will it cost?
Tony Blair said the new submarines would cost between £15bn and £20bn over 30 years and take up 3% of the entire defence budget each year.
When will a decision be taken?
There will now be three months of consultation on the white paper before MPs are asked to vote on the plans to renew/replace the Trident system.
Do these plans need a vote by parliament?
Legally, no. The Cabinet could decide by itself. However, the prime minister has committed himself to a vote by MPs on the plans in March 2007.
Is Tony Blair likely to win a vote?
There are three months to go before the vote, so things may change. But at the moment it would seem likely that the plans would be backed in the House of Commons, although the prime minister might need to rely on Conservative votes to get it through, given opposition from a number of Labour MPs.
Has Mr Blair given any ground to critics?
Mr Blair says he wants a study to look at whether the nuclear submarine fleet could be cut from four to three. He also says he wants to see the number of UK nuclear warheads cut by 20% to about 160.
What is the case for UK nuclear weapons?
Tony Blair said in an uncertain world with places like North Korea and Iran seeking nuclear weapons, it would be "unwise and dangerous" for the UK to get rid of its weapons. He said "it is not utterly fanciful" to "imagine states sponsoring nuclear terrorism from their soil. We know this global terrorism seeks chemical, biological and nuclear devices". Although the Cold War is over, he said no-one could say whether any new threats would emerge.
What other options are there?
The government ruled out unilaterally scrapping the UK's nuclear weapons. Once that decision was taken it also ruled out using air-based, or land-based nuclear weapons systems. There was also an option - suggested by the Commons defence committee and Lib Dem leader Sir Menzies Campbell - to postpone a decision until later. But the government said it would be "imprudent" to assume that a new submarine could be designed and built within the 14 years. Indeed, the white paper says the design and build process for new submarines will take 17 years.
What are the arguments against?
The main one is that the old threat from the Soviet Union no longer exists and therefore the need for a nuclear weapon no longer exists. It is said that nuclear weapons are useless in that they could never be used and would not combat the new threats from international terrorism. The issue of cost - estimated at up to £20bn for the submarines - is also raised. So is the question of Britain's obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (see below).
What about its legality?
Some argue that under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Britain should not be re-arming but moving towards total nuclear disarmament. Article VI of the treaty says: "Each of the Parties to the Treaty undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control." Critics also argue that using Trident would break international law since such a weapon would not be able to distinguish between combatants and civilians.
What is the government's response?
It argues that the treaty does not commit member states to total disarmament but to negotiations on effective measures and that it has fulfilled this pledge. It has cut its nuclear weapons explosive capacity by 70% since the end of the Cold War. It has given up bombs carried by aircraft and has reduced the operational readiness of its four Trident missile submarines. Only one submarine is on patrol at any one time, it needs several days notice to fire, its warheads have been reduced to 48 and are no longer pre-targeted. The government argues that its nuclear weapons are designed as a deterrent and would only be used as a last resort in self-defence and that therefore they are no different in principle and international law from other systems.
Could a new warhead be tested?
Britain signed the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty in 1996 and is observing a moratorium on tests though the treaty has not come into force yet. So the testing of new warheads by explosion is in effect banned. However, there have been reports in the Sunday Times that Britain has been developing a new warhead which does not need testing by detonation. Called the "Reliable Replacement Warhead", it could be tested by computer instead. The work for this would be done at Aldermaston for which major new investment was announced in July 2005.
Is Trident independent?
Tony Blair was at pains to say that firing Trident does not require the permission, the satellites or the codes of any other country (i.e. the United States) and that therefore it is fully operationally independent. However, critics say that Britain is technically so dependent on the United States that in effect Trident is not an independent system. For example, the British Trident missiles are serviced at a US port in Georgia, the missiles are to have their lives extended by the US and Tony Blair has said the UK will work with the US when the US develops a replacement for the D5 missile in the 2040s. The critics also argue that the British warhead design is based on an American one and that warhead components are also from the United States.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4805768.stm
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