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Nirvana
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Chemtrail Reports (temporary)
 Sat Jul 06, 2002 9:07 pm
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I'm seeing more of those 'falling' kind of chemtrails here today. (image titled as 'Heavy chemtrail' at [url=http://nirvana2112.50megs.com/photo.html)]http://nirvana2112.50megs.com/photo.html)[/url]
Otherwise, it's a pretty warm and sunny day here.
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Nirvana
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Sat Jul 06, 2002 9:49 pm
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They seem to have a new chemtrail substance that is less oily and more strand-like for lack of better terminology. I'm not seeing as many sundogs or chembows.
The sky is becoming more of a general hazy white and the temperature has dropped somewhat. A small eastern breeze has begun.
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KrissaTMC2
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Sat Jul 06, 2002 10:35 pm
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There's been a lot of activity here in Greenwich with the whole sky covered with similar trails to the one in the picture that Nirvana posted yesterday. Right now I'm looking at a really weird looking dim, red/orange sun that looks like a 5 watt light bulb because of the thickness of the haze. It doesn't even look real. It's just so dim that you can look right at it. I just hope someone takes a few pictures of it. |
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Dan Rockwell
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Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:58 am
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Thanks for starting this thread Nirvana.
Krissa's right about the activity here. We got chemmed real heavily Friday and there were trails that looked about the same as the one in the picture and the chem-jets were making trails the whole day.
Saturday, I didn't see any chem-jets but the haze was so thick by 5:00 pm that the sun was so dim looking that I could look directly at it without hurting my eyes. It was really weird looking, like a little reddish orange dimly illuminated ball.
For the last two days, the temperature here has been in the 70's which is a relief because we had 3 days with temps between 98 and 101 degrees. Right now, the temperature is a comfortable 64 degrees with 73% humidity. |
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roman
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Sun Jul 07, 2002 2:00 pm
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The Ohio Valley got a good dose of every type of trail yesterday.There was a large crowd in town for Power Boat races on the river.roman... |
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Sun Jul 07, 2002 5:22 pm
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A little off topic but here goes anyway.
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I’m going to tell you a true story that took place on Tuesday of this week. This happened in my home county in N. Calif. NO newspaper, radio reports or photographs that I can find. But witnessed by many residents including many of my friends and my brother, but damn it, not by me.
Our county is the home of a large natural lake, surrounded by several communities. There is a large mountain, 4200’ above sea level, sitting on the south shore. I live on the N. shore and my brother lives on the South shore on the lower slope of the mountain facing the lake.
Tuesday he was in the shower when he began to hear a high pitched whine, like a screaming turbine. The noise grew in intensity and the house began to shake or vibrate slightly. He jumped out of the shower and went to the deck that looks across the lake. Out from the right side, at just above the level of the mountain came a large 4 engine jet, he said that looked like a 747 or similar. Silver with no markings that he could see.
He said the jet heeled slightly to it’s right and started a shallow dive towards the lake. BELOW the level of the mountain!!! He and the neighbors were stunned, thinking it was going to crash into the water. As the plane passed his deck, the sound was deafening, the house shaking. It sounded like the pilot was giving the engines all they had. The plane pulled up slightly, leveled it wings and proceeded towards the west, just clearing the hills west of the main city. Hot on it’s tail was another plane of similar size with 4 engines and also silver, but at a higher altitude, going in the same direction.
I also talked to a friend living near there and he said he heard it, looked out the kitchen window and seen the plane coming right at his house at very low level. He thought it was going to crash into the house and ran for his life.
Nothing on the local news or paper so far.
If the plane was below mountain top level, it would be in the 3000 to 3500 ft altitude range as the lake sits at 1250’ ASL and the mountain is about 4200’ ASL.
What in the hell were they doing flying that low is anybodies guess but is one of the strangest things to happen here in a while. We have had many large and small planes drop in the lake for one reason or another, but have never had this close a fly-over by such a large plane.
And for the debunkers saying it was not that large a plane….My brother is a pilot, private lic., has flown overseas on large aircraft and knows what he sees. Many witnessed this incident and all have very similar stories, and all say they were very large planes.
And no, I haven’t called anyone with inquiries. It would do no good as nothing but lies are coming from those in the position to know of such things.
Let the debunking begin.
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David
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Sun Jul 07, 2002 6:51 pm
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Also, we are being chemed to death today. Long chemtrails with spreading tendrils that also spread and intermingle to form a very effective white covering that will soon blot the sky from view. High wind every day now for weeks and weeks, very unusual for this time of the year. Temps lower than norm for July but the suns intensity or ability to produce burns, seems greater.
A look here will explain a great deal>>>> http://nimbo.wrh.noaa.gov/satellite/1km/Sacramento/VIS1SAC.GIF
See those 4 clouds just above San Francisco Bay, they came in from the coast a while back and are still in the same relative formation and size despite the high winds.
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FLKook
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Sun Jul 07, 2002 7:00 pm
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Wow David! That sounds like an extremely stressful experience. What a description. Hope you get some answers or at least some lies as acknowledgement (TPTS and all)Thank you for sharing that here.
Did you see any smoke? Were you (or an neighbor maybe?) at an advantage where you could view any follow through of the flight path?
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Nirvana
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Sun Jul 07, 2002 7:03 pm
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Hi David,
That's quite a story about those planes. Thanks for sharing.
Is Clear Lake the lake of which you are speaking?
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David
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Sun Jul 07, 2002 7:21 pm
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FLK I did not see it my self but those that did said it/they went straight west towards the coast 60 miles distant.
My brothers vantage point is elevated enough to allow him an unubstructed view over the western hills and he said that it continued west until out of sight. No smoke or other obvious signs of trouble.
Nirvana. Bingo!  Been here? A small slice of paradise, at least for now...
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Dan Rockwell
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Sun Jul 07, 2002 7:26 pm
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That's some story David and not really off topic either. It would really be interesting to see who would take responsibility for the incident, but I doubt that anyone in an official capacity would come forward since the jet was unmarked.
A few days ago, I just happened to be in the right place at the right time to see a silver chem-jet spraying. This was unusual to me since, up until then, I had only seen the usual white chem-jets.
Today, we have a ground level have here and our eyes are burning and our noses are running. At first, I thought I was seeing things, but I soon got confirmation that the haze is at ground level. It's sort of a smoky powdery haze and probably not good for us to be breathing.
Whatever it is, it is real nasty stuff and we're going to start setting up remote surveillance equipment so we can limit our exposure to it if we get hit with it again. Right now, we're trying to limit our exposure to it the best that we can without having to resort to bio-hazard suits and air packs. |
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Nirvana
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Sun Jul 07, 2002 9:13 pm
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Hi David, yes I have been to Clear Lake several times. I know someone that lives near Mt. Konoctai close to the lake. I visited last summer. I saw chemtrails over Lakeport. I like the Clearlake area. I will ask my contact if they saw/heard anything last Tuesday. If anyone is interested, this link has a picture of the resort on Clear Lake with mountains in the background. http://www.konoctiharbor.com/ You can see/hear some good bands there, http://www.konoctiharbor.com/ampha.htm.
Dan, I've been noticing the silver jets here too vs. the standard white. Yesterday, I saw a silver jet that had a rectangular black stripe painted the length of the bottom of the fuselage. It was moving fast and I did not hear any engine sound. That may be because of the altitude or maybe they are muffling the engines well.
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KrissaTMC2
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Mon Jul 08, 2002 12:48 am
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I knew I saw a silver jet. Silver does show up better in the haze than white or gray does.
That haze was brutal here too today. For a minute I thought someone sprayed some mace somewhere. My eyes were watering in less than 30 minutes after I went outside. I heard a rumor that they were trying to blame it on fires burning in Canada or something like that but I didn't smell anything burning and I haven't seen anything on any of the news wires either.
Right now the sky is sort of a pinkish gray in color and the ground level stuff seems to be thinning out a little.
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Dan Rockwell
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Mon Jul 08, 2002 7:06 am
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Here's the latest reports on the fires in Canada. I'm sure that the smoke particulates mixing with the chem-crud doesn't help the conditions any.
Quebec forest fires blanket eastern United States with smoke
Sun Jul 7, 8:08 PM ET By MICHAEL KOVRIG, Associated Press Writer
MONTREAL - Firefighters battled dozens of raging forest fires in Quebec as smoke and haze from the blazes blanketed the northeastern United States and stretched as far south as Washington, D.C.
At least 85 fires — 10 of them out of control — were burning Sunday, the Quebec forest fire protection service said. They have destroyed more than 250,000 acres (100,000 hectares) of forest.
With no rain expected before Thursday, the fires will likely grow, the service's spokesman Eric Santerre said.
Lightning and dry conditions sparked the fires that have been burning since July 2 in two separate regions southeast of James Bay between 200 and 400 miles (320 and 640 kilometers) north of the U.S. border.
More than 500 firefighters — some in planes dropping water — worked to control 45 fires in a region above Lake St. Jean about 150 miles (240 kilometers) north of Quebec City, Santerre said.
"For part of them we are doing nothing for now because they are too big," he said. "These are really big fires. We are using firebreaks, sprinklers, hoses and motorized pumps."
In the Nemiscau region south of James Bay, about 40 fires were burning. Some 75 firefighters dug firebreaks and poured water on the flames, but dense smoke prevented use of aircraft to drop water.
The fires in Nemiscau have led to the evacuation of two Cree Indian villages, Nemaska and Chisasibi.
Rising to 10,000 feet (3,000 meters), the plume of smoke blanketed Montreal and reached New York City.
Propelled by strong winds from the north, the fires have created a plume of smoke and haze stretching from Michigan to Massachusetts visible as far south as Washington, D.C., U.S. meteorologists said Sunday.
The Pennsylvania Department of Environmental protection advised residents of 20 counties, especially those with respiratory conditions, to stay indoors until Monday afternoon.
Wally said the plume probably will shift north and east by Monday morning, moving off the New England coast.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020708/ap_wo_en_po/canada_forest_fires_7&printer=1
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Quebec Fires Prompts Alerts in U.S.
By Michael Kovrig
Associated Press Writer
Sunday, July 7, 2002; 9:45 PM MONTREAL –– Firefighters battled dozens of raging forest fires in Quebec on Sunday, as smoke and haze from the blazes blanketed the northeastern United States and stretched as far south as Washington, D.C.
New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania advised residents with respiratory and heart conditions to stay indoors. The New York and New Jersey alerts were statewide.
Pennsylvania's covered 20 counties.
At least 85 fires – 10 of them out of control – were burning Sunday, the Quebec forest fire protection service said. They have destroyed more than 250,000 acres of forest.With no rain expected before Thursday, the fires will likely grow, the service spokesman Eric Santerre said.
Lightning and dry conditions sparked the fires that have been burning since July 2 in two separate regions southeast of James Bay between 200 and 400 miles north of the U.S. border.More than 500 firefighters – some in planes dropping water – worked to control 45 fires in a region above Lake St. Jean about 150 miles north of Quebec City, Santerre said.
"For part of them we are doing nothing for now because they are too big," he said. "These are really big fires. We are using firebreaks, sprinklers, hoses and motorized pumps."
In the Nemiscau region south of James Bay, about 40 fires were burning. Some 75 firefighters dug firebreaks and poured water on the flames, but dense smoke prevented use of aircraft to drop water.
The fires in Nemiscau have led to the evacuation of 630 inhabitants in two Cree Indian villages, Nemaska and Chisasibi.
Propelled by strong winds from the north, the fires have created a plume of smoke and haze stretching from Michigan to Massachusetts visible as far south as Washington, D.C., U.S. meteorologists said Sunday.
Downtown Baltimore experienced haze and a smoky smell Sunday, said meteorologist Dewey Walston of the Sterling, Va., office.
The Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection advised residents of 20 counties, especially those with respiratory conditions, to stay indoors until Monday afternoon.
The New York Health Department urged those with respiratory conditions to stay indoors and turn on their air conditioners to reduce exposure to the smoke.
"It's quite evident something is in the air," department spokeswoman Kristine Smith said.
The plume of smoke, which blanketed Montreal, also affected air travel in New York.
"All of our major airports are reporting smoke and haze and visibility restrictions of two miles," said David Wally of the National Weather Service in New York City.
Wally said the plume probably will shift north and east by Monday morning, moving off the New England coast.
The smoke had moved from north-central Pennsylvania to the southeastern part of the state by Sunday afternoon, said Peter Jung, a National Weather Service meteorologist in State College, Pa.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36628-2002Jul7.html |
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FLKook
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Mon Jul 08, 2002 12:03 pm
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Ditto on the silver chem jets. Have been noticing them on and off the last month or so.
They seem larger than the white ones, or maybe they are just flying lower?? |
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