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PostWed May 02, 2007 9:43 pm  Reply with quote  

I read that thread, in fact I was the one who pointed it out to FUI. There wasn't anything all that revealing in there if memory serves.. The jist of it was all the mods giving their resignation notices because the owner thought people were getting banned without good reason and lifted the IP ban. I don't know the inside scoop, there maybe more to it than that, but thats pretty much all that was talked about in the thread in question. Hardly anything in there worth this amount of drama and obsession, if ya ask me.
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My Response PostWed May 02, 2007 11:18 pm  Reply with quote  

Yet again FUI is drawing attention to himself rather than the CT issue.

I have nothing but positive things to say about this site. They let me post things that other people would call me crazy for. They gather like-minded people together to talk about a common cause. They even put up with me when I get angry with Ellyn. I would definitely support banning of someone who consistently side-tracks threads with self serving posts.

Thanks to all the mods for your hard work in keeping this site running.
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PostThu May 03, 2007 1:09 am  Reply with quote  

What kind of sense does it make to continually claim that this site is fake, and then come in here and fill up threads here with all this continual nonsense? Actually I see it as just a continual distraction.
If you two gentlemen have the whole chemtrail mystery solved, then spill the beans, create according to your own standards, the worlds first really really real, chemtrail site. Hell, I'll even help you promote it. And if you really want to keep it real, moderate it yourselfs. You could then be the be all end all guy's you seem to want to be in the controversy.
If your really trying to be of service to others, maybe you should make it less about yourself's.
Argumentive dialogue follows you every where you go.
We are all aware disinfo abounds, and of the type's who spread it.
Remember, were all "tinfoiled asshats" here, so maybe you should just keep your endless time consuming rants over on those other boards.
Shoot there I go again, giving you the time, energy, and attention you so badly desire.
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Thermit, Where is the CTC Changes Thread? PostThu May 03, 2007 3:15 am  Reply with quote  

I asked a question to the three people that operate this site.

Where is the "CTC Changes" Thread?

No one answered.

I've sent two pms to Thermit; both ignored.

This simple question has resulted in insults; accusations, with lectures about the unimportance of the thread, with distractions. Even with an offer to another poster - that if he publically degrades himself, the thread will be made available. I'm accused of being an "instigator of chaos." I simply asked a question that could have been answered in a single post without all the unnecessary blathering.

"We deleted the 'CTC Changes' thread from public view because...."

The US Gov't removes public information on a regular basis, but at least they offer some semblance of reason. "Privacy," or "National Security." Meanwhile CTC offers no answer at all. In fact, they don't even address the question.

This is not about chemtrails, but it's about the removal of information at the whim of the website operators - no explanation needed. It's about secrets, when openness and honesty is so badly needed. Go back and read this thread. Go back and visit my posting history here to see if I really am an "instigator of chaos."

Meanwhile, Increase 1776's behavior has been abominable - unprofessional and a disgrace to this site. Thermit remains silent. I do not trust this site anymore. I don't delete my posts. Why does Chemtrail Central delete an entire thread? What are they hiding?

I expect this to be "answered" with more rudeness, accusations or distractions. I ask that the readers of Chemtrail Central look over this thread carefully and make up your own minds.

And if anybody can find a Chemtrails forum with integrity. One with operators that behave like adults; that don't insult/incite posters like kids on a playground; that don't keep secrets; hide threads; and attack the people who ask questions - if anyone can find a Chemtrails Forum operated by people that are honest and straightforward, please let me know.

I have lost all respect for Chemtrail Central. It is not an aboveboard website, imo. I think I agree with you, Socrates.



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This first link is where Daryl and his other brother Daryl,aka FUI and Mr. Kent State decide to leave ,once and for all. Excuse me but this crap wants to make me vomit.You want to be banned!BOY ! What do you think we can work for the twins starman1? http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/msg100179.html#100179 FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe 5/06/06 The day CTC was blessed with the arrival of FUI.The very next day 5/07/06 here comes Mr.Kent State aka may41970 . It took FUI 12days to show his true colors and it's been downhill ever since.See the quote at the bottom. Read up on all the interesting and educational, not confrontational, no they have good manners,research these two wannabees blessed CTC with.You two are professional Mud Slingers." Have dirt, will work "should be on your business cards
Mr.Kent State has posted these gems. , http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1658961571&start=30 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1658961571&start=15 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1658961571
FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe 5/06/06 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1805289971&start=120 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1805289971&start=105 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1805289971&start=90

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And old user, I'm not talking to you
If you check out this guy's comments he is a troll also and should be banned. Either a jackass troll or a disinfo guy, either way, a creep
May 18,2006 It took FUI 12days to show his true colors and it's been downhill ever since.
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CHANGES.......CHANGES.......Where are those CHANGES.....Not under here....Not over there... Laughing Laughing Laughing Very Happy Very Happy Laughing Laughing Laughing
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quote:
Originally posted by increase 1776
This first link is where Daryl and his other brother Daryl,aka FUI and Mr. Kent State decide to leave ,once and for all. Excuse me but this crap wants to make me vomit.You want to be banned!BOY ! What do you think we can work for the twins starman1? http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/msg100179.html#100179 FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe 5/06/06 The day CTC was blessed with the arrival of FUI.The very next day 5/07/06 here comes Mr.Kent State aka may41970 . It took FUI 12days to show his true colors and it's been downhill ever since.See the quote at the bottom. Read up on all the interesting and educational, not confrontational, no they have good manners,research these two wannabees blessed CTC with.You two are professional Mud Slingers." Have dirt, will work "should be on your business cards
Mr.Kent State has posted these gems. , http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1658961571&start=30 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1658961571&start=15 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1658961571
FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe 5/06/06 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1805289971&start=120 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1805289971&start=105 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_id=1805289971&start=90

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And old user, I'm not talking to you
If you check out this guy's comments he is a troll also and should be banned. Either a jackass troll or a disinfo guy, either way, a creep
May 18,2006 It took FUI 12days to show his true colors and it's been downhill ever since.


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"And old user, I'm not talking to you
If you check out this guy's comments he is a troll also and should be banned. Either a jackass troll or a disinfo guy, either way, a creep"

I remember posting that, but let's see take a quick look at "old user"

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/search.php?search_author=OldUser&sid=91cab3f077c07e50f8d40c3445313c02


The first quote made by OldUser made it seem like he was a chemmie, that's what pissed me off, because I remembered that he had made many a post making fun of those questioning the white-outs being deliberately produced by specific aircraft.

That's why I said what I said to olduser


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These guys on the Randi Rhodes message board think they know their stuff. Grrr....makes me sick to see the government can try to destroy conversations like that. Im trying to debunk them, but they seem to have an answer to everything. Anyone want to give it a try?.....

Do you guys honestly not realize winds are 60+ mph in the upper atmosphere? Do you have any idea what temperature inversions are? Do you have any idea how DIFFERENT the weather is at 35,000 feet than it is down on the ground?

These threads just keep getting funnier, and funnier........


NewGuest,

Ive had countless usernames on this forum, and they all have been banned. The moderators here are such f@#$% they have to ban anyone with a differing view. A view may I add that is supported by FACTS, not some $#@#! that is thrown together by a few morons who have nothing better to do with their time.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=23642&highlight=Chemtrail

Every single point you conspiracy theorists raise is disproven time and time again in that thread. The members of that site are mostly all airline pilots with more time spent in airplanes then you morons ever will.

Im not sure what it is, but conspiracy theorists have some kind of mental mind block that prevents them from seeing the obvious. Even when confronted with actual evidence, you shrug it off as being "disinformation". If you guys are so positive the government is spraying you, why dont you just move to some place that never sees airline traffic. Some country in the middle of Africa or something. I can asure you that you WILL NOT be missed.......


The grids are because of the way planes navigate! Think of airways like highways. Its not one thin line that they have to follow. They are a couple of miles wide. Airways intersect, and thats how you get the grids.

Call your local Air Traffic Control facility and take a tour. You'll notice just how many planes are in the sky at once, and how close they really are.

After that, go to your local airport and ask every single pilot you see about chemtrails. They ALL will laugh at you, and tell you its nothing more then contrails.

So whats wrong with the link? You guys can't trust people who actually have EXPERIENCE. The internet is amazing, you can actually learn more then people with first hand experiene.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=23642&highlight=Chemtrail

Here is the link again. Remember that these are REAL pilots. They are not some guys that just sit around at home and read stuff on the internet.

I really don't get it. This is the one conspiracy that completely baffles me. Common sense, and science all show that chemtrails dont exist. Why do you continue to believe in them?.....


Mark,

I really doubt you have spoken to many pilots and Air Traffic Controllers. If you have, you would realize these "chemtrails" are nothing more than frozen water vapor.

Open up your phonebook, and find the number for one of the Air Traffic Control facilities in your area. It should be under FAA. Ask to take a tour. They will be more than helpful. Take a good luck at the radar screens when you are there. You'll notice there are WAY more planes than you ever thought were in the sky. Probably 10x what that stupid FlightExplorer shows you.

I suggest you take another look at that thread again. THere is a lot of ridicule, but it is probably deserved. That guy has been faced with TONS of evidince that disproves the existence of chemtrails, but he still believes in them. Every claim you guys have ever made has been debunked in that thread.

Its interesting how EVERY SINGLE PILOT on that forum doesn't believe in chemtrails. Are they all sheep? They spend thousands of hours in the air each year, but none of them believie in the existence of chemtrails. Why not?



So why is Increase1776 saying I was a troll for calling out a troll?
Why is Increase1776 posting dead links?
Why does Increase1776 support fake debunkers??

Why you so desperate Increase1776 to keep making posts that make no sense?

Thermit, please, all that is being asked is that the CTC Changes thread{s} be made public again. They don't have to be a sticky, they could be put in free form or the debunking zone, but the longer this goes on, the credibility problems that your moderator has now will eventually start sticking to yourself.
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DELETED DUE TO THE POLICY OF CTC IN LETTING THE DEBUNKERS AND TROUBLEMAKERS LIKE "FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe" AKA, "MAY41970' OVERRUN THE SITE.

FOR THAT REASON I WILL NOT HAVE MY POST ARCHIVED HERE AND I NO LONGER WISH TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SITE


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Thermit, where is the "CTC Changes" thread? PostSun May 06, 2007 2:15 pm  Reply with quote  

Hi thermit. I sent you two pms last week. They're still in my outbox. You haven't even read them yet. I only asked you where the "CTC Changes" thread is.

Thermit, please stop ignoring me.

Thermit, where is the "CTC Changes" Thread? I will continue to press for a response to this fair question until you personally answer.

THERMIT, WHERE IS THE 'CTC CHANGES' THREAD?

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THERMIT, WHERE IS THE 'CTC CHANGES' THREAD?
At Gastros web site.
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Thermit, where it the "CTC" Changes Thread PostMon May 07, 2007 2:13 am  Reply with quote  

Hi Thermit,

This "Increase 1776" character you've got moderating for you is unflipping believable. He's rude and he's a liar. How can you sit there, Thermit, and do nothing while this offensive creep, Increase 1776, wipes out the last vestiges of credibiliy your website has?

Here are some of the "answers" your moderators have given.

1) I have to pm you (Thermit) to get an answer.
2) Your moderators can't find the thread.
3) It's a "moderators' only" thread.
4) We'll give you the thread, but only if a poster named "Socrates" publically degrades himself.
5) It's "at the Gastros web site"

I asked you a reasonable question, Thermit. Why are the two pms I sent still sitting in my outbox, unread by you? Why is it like pulling teeth to get an answer?

Please stop ignoring me. Do your job and address the question.

Thermit, where is the "CTC Changes" thread?



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I don't want this thread to fade away PostTue May 08, 2007 2:44 pm  Reply with quote  

and be forgotten. It's too important.

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PostWed May 09, 2007 6:43 am  Reply with quote  

http://www.debatebothsides.com/showthread.php?t=57875&page=10


Where are the CTC Changes thread{s}? Why has Thermit gone awol? How come one can find tons of whackjob AONN Secret Agent Fascist crap in the caches, but certain CTC threads seem to have vanished completely?

Well, a bit of it seems to have been located. I have located it from a fake "debunker" forum.
http://com1.runboard.com/b13thcentury.f6.t105398

"CTC implosion?"
LTC8K6:Actually, I hope not. I really don't like to see this and it brings back some bad memories.

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread10365.html
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread10351.html

{me-Socrates- the links go nowhere, even if you are a ctc member}

lu lu: well well well very interesting Bill
when i was mod/admin way back when i recall therm mentioning the ban ip thing was not so good an idea
and i had to agree with his reasoning always had a great deal of respect for captain therm

"I'd like to take CTC forward from here, and make it a place where people can discuss ideas of all sorts without fear of being banned, just because their ideas are different."

a very likable chap and true colors are shown with the other two unstable dudes

therm speaks:

"Swamp Gas, I understand that this is war to you guys. However, I'm not going to live my life in a virtual underground bunker constantly under fear. Good luck with your club."

it was bound to happen swamp is as vile as they come will never forget the slanderous hate-filled e-mail campaign he launched against me out of the blue

swampy spews: "Thermit, you simply are ungrateful. We clean up the mess, and you say you're not going to live in an underground bunker. If this is not an inforamtion war, than perhaps you have been leaned on or you are the paranoid one.And where is Ellyn, who kicked off this mess?
You could have emailed her, and got the IP from her machine, and unblocked that. You trade some damn AOL proxies for one of the best mod teams I have ever seen. You're not as smart as you think you are. You are exactly like George W Bush. the majority of Americans say Bush is wrong, and he makes fun of us. The entire mod team quits, and it doesn't phase you

I am breaking off my addiction to your site, and you are not going to get away with your half of the story. Unless you knock out this thread, we will keep coming back and setting the record straight." as always my hats off to mark sky never had a thing against him or poco

as big joe blunders:

"Thermit... Don't you think you could at least thank Swamp for saving CTC when it was hacked last fall..."

does he need glasses as therm thanks gas bag loud and clear folks:

"Well, it was my fault the site got hacked because I had missed installing a security patch and then it got exploited, but thanks to Swamp for having the latest DB backup at the time, the real damage wasn't too bad a hit."

not that therm didn't have his own back up as the world burns

not so big joe:
"The gate is wide open for professional dis-info's, debunkers and other professionals working for the "dark forces" to walk right in now."

bbwwwwwwahhhhhhaaaaaaaahhaaaaaaaaaaa who needs tv? not i

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread10351.html

what a trip dpwn the lane...

Lord seeker: know I read that whole thread a couple of hours ago and could not believe the arrogance of mech and gasbag... mark is a good guy...like what he does or not he is a solid fella...he has helped me with html issues and such for a longtime... people and places have their time...and function...
naturally *others* will probably take what I say as cooersion...or whatever but I could care less...he has certainly got more class than our dear boy maverick...

mark{Thermit/Mark Steadman} has always been fair to me....
and that's all that counts...


LTC8K6: Does Thermit expect those of us who were herded into the ghetto and summarily executed to venture back over there? I wonder.....

Lord seeker: he made a statement that he didn't like the way some things were handled...

I don't know bill...go back or not...I don't have the time anymore...this is bad enough here....these days I try not to carry grudges...unless we are talking about mav...

LTC8K6: Yeah, I read it.

I doubt I will post there.

I really don't try to change minds anymore about chemtrails anyway.

What do I care if somebody wants to believe it? So, let them. It no longer matters to me anymore.

I just try to make sure the other side of the story is heard, and don't bother to argue too much with believers anymore.

Lord seeker: I know...I laughed and snorted !

to add I always thought "big joe" and gasbag were the same person...

Reasonable people who read the boards can read what both sides say and decide who is telling the truth.

Unreasonable people aren't worth my time, and hard core believers aren't listening anyway.

Changes in beliefs really only come from yourself. In other words, there is no discipline except self discipline. You know that.

Lord seeker: you are very wise bill

and I thought the quote from therm about "not living hi life in a bunker"......one helluva dig !

LTC8K6: mech sure didn't like it....
End of Thread. [/quote]

Chemtrails are real: Chemtrail forums are not. It all looks scripted to me.


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PostFri May 11, 2007 2:46 am  Reply with quote  

Sorry for delay, but I've been busy with moving and making a living.

Now for the belated answer...

That thread and some related threads were grouped in a Changes subforum.

Then when everyone involved had had their say and it had sat there a while, I decided to remove the forum from public view.

Mistakes were made, it was painful, the dirty laundry had been sufficiently aired. No point in digging it up now, in my view.

Many thanks to Increase 1776 alerting me to this thread and other issues that required attention.
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