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Dave Gale
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scanner freq.s for possible chem-sprayers
 Fri Jul 12, 2002 8:23 pm
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Anybody in the NW N.C., SW Va.,NE Tn. area who has a scanner that covers 225-400 Mhz can hear air to air conversations between tankers and other aircraft on 235.100. also check 11.175 and 11.232 Usb on shortwave. |
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Thermit
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Fri Jul 12, 2002 9:23 pm
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Hi Dave. Have you heard anything interesting? |
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PacerLJ35
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Tue Jul 16, 2002 4:58 am
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Try the following frequencies on your scanner:
255.4
282.8
122.2
122.6
122.8
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Thermit
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Tue Jul 16, 2002 4:12 pm
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What are those frequencies? |
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PHANTOM911
Joined: 31 Oct 2001
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Tue Jul 16, 2002 10:53 pm
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Consider the source. |
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PacerLJ35
Joined: 18 Apr 2002
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Wed Jul 17, 2002 12:40 am
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Are you saying they aren't legit frequencies used by air traffic? Do your research, Phantom. |
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PacerLJ35
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Thu Jul 18, 2002 5:32 am
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Since no one bothered to look them up:
255.4: UHF Flight Service Station common freq.
282.8: Alternate Guard freq.
122.2: VHF FlightWatch freq.
122.6: VHF Flight Service Station common freq.
122.8: UNICOM |
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Dave Gale
Joined: 12 Jul 2002
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Location: Mountain City,TN USA |
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Thu Jul 18, 2002 1:59 pm
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When I posted the subject of POSSIBLE scanner freq.s for c-trailers I was looking for anyone else who might have more knowledge and confirmed these or other freq.s so far its produced insults and my sincerity questioned. We got enough to deal with and not enough people to effectively resist these problems so lets work together and find solutions not attack each other. If you know the answers let us in on them but never question my sincerity or honesty or patriotism!!! |
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Thermit
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Thu Jul 18, 2002 4:33 pm
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quote:
my sincerity questioned
I believe that was Phantom911 questioning PacerLJ35, not you, Dave Gale. |
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PacerLJ35
Joined: 18 Apr 2002
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Thu Jul 18, 2002 11:50 pm
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I figured the scanner community would get something to listen to on those frequencies. Thanks Alpha, for pointing out the obvious. No, a "secret" operation isn't going to communicate on a common frequency that all the other aircraft are using.
There are a number of ways to communicate without letting anyone listen it. Encryption is one, but that's a slower process. There's also channel-hopping.
Anyways, even if the aircraft is conduction a secret operation, they have to have a way to talk to the ARTCC controllers and the tower and approach/departure controllers too. And those frequencies aren't secure. |
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PacerLJ35
Joined: 18 Apr 2002
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Thu Jul 18, 2002 11:53 pm
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Here's an interesting list of most of the military callsigns out there. This guy has done a great job compiling them. Although some of the information is a bit dated, it's pretty accurate overall. Some of the unit designations may have changed slightly. For example, it's got our callsign, Pacer, listed still as a C-21 callsign, but it's user, the 1402nd MAS no longer exists. It's now the 457th AS. |
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PacerLJ35
Joined: 18 Apr 2002
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Thu Jul 18, 2002 11:55 pm
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I guess it would be helpful to actually post the link!
http://www.the-guide.nl/callsign/
PS- I was also suprised to find they had the JOSA callsign! |
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Fri Jul 19, 2002 12:29 am
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The airforce is keeping an eye on you pacer.
"Criticize me if you like, but DO NOT take my quotes and say they are "USAF lies". I may be in the Air Force, but I am NOT an Air Force spokesperson. Let me make myself perfectly clear: My posts are of my own opinion, and not official USAF sentiments in any way.
I don't know WHAT you were trying to do there...perhaps get me in trouble? It doesn't matter whether what I say is true, not true, or simply incorrect...but you running around saying that I'm speaking on behalf of the Air Force would result in the perception existing that I am using my office as a PR tool.
The times I have mentioned that I fly for the Air Force have been for background information only, NOT to insinuate that I'm some kind of "unofficial" spokesman for the military"
Hmmmmmm, you better hope THEY feel the same way otherwise your new call sign might be Prisoner #___________. 
[Edited 4 times, lastly by David on 07-18-2002] |
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PacerLJ35
Joined: 18 Apr 2002
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Fri Jul 19, 2002 1:16 am
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Oh, go away David. I'm sure they would get upset because I posted some frequencies that nearly every pilot in the US knows by memory. Not. |
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PacerLJ35
Joined: 18 Apr 2002
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Fri Jul 19, 2002 3:07 am
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The problem with not communicating with ARTCC is that ARTCC controllers will talk to each other over the land line to develop a sequencing plan. Some rogue aircraft plowing through their airspace would create havoc, and would present a certain danger.
Even when I did operate in a military operations area, we still talked with Houston Center. The idea that controllers can simply "clear the way" for some strange formation of military aircraft is a stretch. Even if a controller told me to descend out of my normal cruising altitude, they have to tell my why they are doing something out of the ordinary. They just can't say "descend and maintain..." just out of left field, leaving us wondering why.
For those of you with ideas that the military launches the fleet, doesn't talk to anyone except their own command structure, and goes sailing through the national airspace system, you obviously don't appreciate how complicated it is to keep all of that flowing even with everyone talking to each other. |
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