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bjane
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Non-Plane Methods of Laying Chemtrails
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I am located north of Toronto, Ontario and the sky here is usually whited out for most of the day. Often in the morning you can see white streaks being laid in the sky.
Sometimes traveling south (in the direction of Toronto) I have seen columns just like chemtrails coming from structures on the ground located in industrial parks. These plants consist of a sort of boiler located on a lot with a small building and small parking lot with only maybe three vehicles or fewer. I haven't looked into this carefully, but I have the impression that there is a ground program to supplement the aerial program. Once these columns are in the sky they seem to be indistinguishable from chemtrails. |
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:36 pm
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I call it condensation!
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:40 pm
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Could be normal industrial emissions, but doesn't look like anything is being produced other than the emissions themselves. |
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:58 am
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Also reference ship tracks over the oceans.
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:01 am
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I don't think they're cooling towers. I haven't been over that way for quite a while, but I'll try to get some more info and pictures sometime in the future. |
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:03 am
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They couldn't get a particulate to disperse enough from a ground based facility. Too much fall-out residue. A cover up story would be harder to maintain, as well. Too many civilians at the plants.
Your facility might have a covert purpose in and of itself. How do they conceal the exponential increase in the demand for the chemicals used?
I'm not sure chemicals are used. I think we may be sharing a mass halucination/grand illusion. A co-worker and I witnessed a bizarre cloud formation about a year ago. What we saw isn't consist with the chemtrail theories. It defied all known rules of physics of which I'm aware. I'm grateful to God that someone else saw the same thing.
I ran across another account on the internet, describing something similiar. We saw ours first. I'll describe it if anyone is interested. I think it's a waste of time to talk about it, because it sounds absurd and makes me 'look stoopid'.
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 9:48 pm
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I am always interested, so go ahead for me alone if you think I am worth sharing it with. If it intrigues you enough to want to know what it is then I reckon it is worth sharing.
Who knows maybe it is explainable and someone knows more than me or you do about whatever it is....
Really I must look like a total fool on here the things I come out with each time I post, really I do not care one bit though what any one thinks of me or what I say.  Let them call me crazy, see if I care.
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We luv's you anyway, fool or no fool. |
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Ah shucks...I wish I could love everyone here, but someone has hacked my 'puter numerous times and my phone bill keeps showing calls I don't make (some of the calls aren't even charge calls). Somebody don't like me.
Here's my true freak cloud story (in full living Redneck):
Me and my buddy Mike were takin' a break from work in Lenexa, Kansus. Truth is we hadn't been workin' much at all for a couple days, but we didn't want our boss to find out. So anyway, we was sittin' outside and the sky was kinda overcast, with gray rainy lookin' clouds up high. We were in the open end of a freight container, sorta like an enclosed semi-truck tailer, 'cept it don't have wheels. Our field of vision was framed by the opening of the container. We was talkin' about fishing and kids baseball, when all of sudden a small cloud drifted in from behind us. The cloud was like a miniature cumulus cloud, perfect cotton ball with wispy edges. It was about 1000 feet up in the sky and traveling about 30 MPH. I was wondering how the wispy edges could remain intact even though the cloud was moving so quickly. Then the cloud came to an immediate full stop, dead in the center of our field of view about half a block in front of us. I says to Mike, "Did you see that cloud just park there?" He said, "Yeah, I guess the wind died down". No sooner than he said that, a second cloud similar in size and shape came sailing along the same path of the first one. It was moving the same speed the parked cloud had moved, and was headed straight for the parked cloud (the first cloud wasn't moving, the wisps weren't changing shape). The second cloud went full speed up to the first cloud, and stopped immediately with a small but noticable gap left between them. They (them clouds) nestled together and looked like they had been cut from one bigger cloud; like two pieces of a jigsaw puzzle that weren't quite snapped together. Now I started to get exicited, and said all scientific-like (with a rising influction in my voice), "Why didn't the wind push the first cloud away?" Mike was a little startled too, he said (real quote), "It's like they're magnetic". I forgot myself for a moment, and said to Mike, "How the hell could a cloud be magnetic, they don't have any iron in them"? I regretted sayin' this because Mike thinks I'm smarter than he is, and he don't like smart fellers remindin' him about this. Mike's much larger an' stronger than me, and sometimes he plain ole gets mad. This time, about this time, another cloud appeared and sailed up and parked all nestled up behind the second one, again jig saw puzzle with a gap. Remember this is low in the sky, mini clouds like the ones we used to see up high in the sky. More clouds came, the duration of time between appearances grew less each time, but the speed of travel for each was the same (about 30 MPH). I jumped up out of the con-ex (container) to look at the sky behind us. A mass of cloud was coming our way, it look like one of those new fangled, fish scale clouds been comin' around lately. Mike walked off without whoopin' my ass, not that he was really goin' to anyway. I ain't never seen that (the clouds) before or again since, and it's goin' on a year now. I could tell by the look on Mike's face that it had been news to him, too. Just so you know, 'Mike' really is his name. We sorta had a falling out later on, but it had nothing to do with chemtrails or what we saw that day, as far as I know. I don't think things like this can happen using conventional physics, the clouds I mean, not me arguin' with my buds.
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Double entry deleted by author.
Y'all most likely wisht you hadn't read it the first time, I just knew you didn't wanna see er twice
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I was wrong about my telephone bill being altered.
Kudos to the fine folks at U.S. Telecom for being patient with me and my paranoid rantings. I was just sure Mossad was comin' to get me. I had called the IRS with a tax question, and didn't realize I was calling Washington, D.C. The time of a day was wrong on my phonebill, but I had made the call.
Kudos to the IRS, too. They were very helpful, and I was able to get $112 back from the 1000's Sallie Mae has legally stolen from me.
It ain't over yet, Sallie Mae!
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Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:12 pm
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Hehe, not to worry, at least you found out.
I try to check often for spyware and viruses on my system, usually it is easy to notice without scans when system slows down at snail pace but that is a given with windows anyway, just be sure to remember to run spyware and virus scans weekly at the very least. trend micro offer free online scans and AVG free software all good. But I tried the trend mircro one on my system for a trial and it slowed my system down like crazy so best only using online free one I suppose until they fix the bugs it conflicts with other anti spyware software.
It is possible to get virus infections while browsing innocent websites such as Google. But AVG freezes web browser and isolates cache in such cases I find. Better safe than sorry then.
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Hmm, Interesting. So, these clouds you mention. Not sure if they were man made or not? You seem to think they are natural but you all know my opinion on that - the same as Scott Stevens of http://www.weatherwars.info
Well his site actually talks about exactly what your experienced and he even had science videos to prove it from some educational website. But I think those video links were removed by the edu. site unfortunately but I guess the articles on this tech are still on his site, if not then maybe read some material Tom Bearden - some books on weather warfare and its history.
And if the aerosols sprayed for chemtrails that form into clouds (because chemtrail aerosols are cloud making and not cloud seeding) are made using molecular engineered materials then they can also implement the technology to spy on us if you or anyone else was wondering why would they spray and cause poor visibility for satellites and military fighter jets in fog of war... The nanotech dust spying fibres have existed for over a decade actually and could be made usable for commercial uses at some stage most likely within a few decades at the government contract commercial level first.
http://www.foresight.org/publications/weekly0050.html
Ok, so I do doubt they are also using this nanotech aerosols/gases to spy on us all better than satellites would allow because we already have fairly efficient cheap technology that does the same work. Just saying it is possible, anything is now. And we know how much chemtrail aerosols are multi purpose orientated - also Homeland security funds research into nanotech gases for ozone depletion.
Plus we have DARPA defence agencies funding research into implanting chips into our brains and also nanotech foods and molecular engineered cyborg humans! They want to kill the humans species as well as all other species, not only that but are planning for a replacement.
Who needs remote viewers anyway these days - lets use nanotech dust!
Headline: Is Big Brother a cockroach?
Dear readers — When reviewing news for this digest, I often read about something that I think is cool, but it doesn't fit within the usual editorial categories of the News Digest. This section highlights a nanotech advance or idea that I think is especially cool.
Nanosurveillance issues are a real concern for many of us. This article discusses some of the issues in a cursory fashion, but it covers many key points. Also, the headline caught my eye and there is pretty cool graphic as well.
— Judy
News source: ABC Capricornia by David Anderson & Jodie van de Wetering
Next time you wander into the kitchen in the middle of the night and find a cockroach scuttling along the bench, look closely. It might be spying on you.
The next generation of surveillance technology could be hitching a ride on insects' backs, according to Doctor Lynn Zelmer from Central Queensland University's faculty of business and informatics. "I'm a science fiction buff," he admits, "and one of the standard themes in science fiction for years has been the use of spy devices of one kind or another, let's call it spy dust — fairy dust if you want to call it that. Something that you can sprinkle on, or touch on in whatever way, and it'll give you information back. What's happening more and more in recent science fiction is nanotechnology, 'nano' being so small being that you can't even see it through an electron microscope."
I mean this is an insane world we are living? in we now know well and truly.
So they have no fear of totally obscurating the skies and failing the use and effectiveness of satellites - they can use spy dust - thanks to nanotech and all those unethical scientists that have their own idea of the code of ethics not dis-similar to the ones that adminster drugs to torture victims for the US Government globally on US soil and off US soil. All illegally, so what is new...
Ask yourself what do you think star wars missile defence system is really being used for? And why is it linked up to the NSA and other foreign intelligence agencies? How many multi uses do all these have...
It is all old Soviet technology and the Russians know it back to front, they invented and handed it to the USA with Britain.
It the article is no longer on http://www.weatherwars.info try search function of www.cheniere.org EMF weather warafre and EMF weapon warfare including what Soviets and Germans class as mind control warfare
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=emf+site%3Awww.cheniere.org&btnG=Search&meta=
Talks of the long standing chemtrail program and Soviet history
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=chemtrail+site%3Awww.cheniere.org&btnG=Search&meta=
Scalar Wars The Brave New World of Scalar Electromagnetics
(bear in mind the tech is old and Soviets loved it - they tortured Germany with it for fun! in experiments for decades and this science has been suppressed from the mainstream for over 80 years as has Free Energy that is infinite as the Universe is)
http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/mind-kontrol.html
EMF weapons!
http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm
Some NASA Nazi scientists illegally disclosed details of such space weapons being deployed during the 1960's to several government and non government sources.
Why Russia does not want US NATO missile defence system, and yes they can crack it with their missiles. They invented the tech...could it be to do with the use of EMF as a weapon of mass destruction/control, it can control brain waves as can HAARP so some claim.
Note: not all of the info on corresponding sites is factual and appears to be a collection of foreign data from several authors and communities, which may not pertain to be factual based or scientific at all time, some accounts are of experiences of Germans and Soviet uses of this EMF technology - search google for more info if you find time. I can't say if it is real but I ca say it is all possible. And may well have all happened during cold war and ongoing...
As British and Russian scientists confirmed (several years ago- you need to find the source) for several minutes time travel is real - the elite and government sponsored terror agencies or private gov't are out to master the universe's energies to manipulate it all weather modification is s minor part, can we even imagine what is possible then...I think they are a long way from it yet, since mainstream scientists don't even understand gravity fully yet, they know it is invisible as most energies of the universe are. We can't go off mainstream science though.
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perverted_introvert
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Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:39 pm
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When was the last time you went to weatherwars.com?
That site is absolutely jacked. I would prefer to give Scott the benefit of the doubt, but it seems every time he gets his page working he posts wackier and wackier new age posts. Here, have a look:
http://www.weatherwars.info/index.php
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