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marklookingup
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Just for the heck of it, I e-mailed Richard Gage yesterday, to get his opinion of the core issue. Here is his response:
From: "Richard Gage" <rgage@ae911truth.org> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: marklookingup@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Core columns
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 06:10:46 -0700
Mark,
Very few people in the 9/11 Truth movement, if any,
agree with Christopher
Brown. I believe his thesis is a dead end. The
construction photos are
clear that the core columns are steel all the way up.
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No Way Oligarchs
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Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:53 am
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You think that's proof? Then I guess you'll be able to post a pic to confirm what he says. Ask Mr Gage. He'll have one right? Just one will do. I have no vested interest here. I'm just trying to sort the evidence from the belief systems that have been constructed to hide the truth. One pic and I'm converted. Until then, I'll keep looking for the video.
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marklookingup
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Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:22 pm
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All I'm doing is passing on information. Mellow out. |
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No Way Oligarchs
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Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:37 pm
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Is there any evidence that I'm not mellow marklookingup? I think not. You on the other hand made a big deal about the fact that I got your name wrong - and now you're upset because I'm not prepared to accept the hearsay you have presented as evidence.
You want to prove me wrong regarding ANY claims I've EVER made ANYWHERE on the 'net and I'll be pleased to deal with them. politely and through the use of verifiable evidence. I've already explained that I have no vested interest in relation to this matter, so until then, you mellow out kiddo.
And please don't bother wasting a post to call me names or point out that I don't have evidence of the concrete core. That fact is implicit in the post.
Peace and love dude
x
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No Way Oligarchs
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Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:16 pm
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Look. I want to know the truth as much as I hope you do. I believe Richard Gage is sincere and I suspect you are too. I did watch the video you presented and I agree, in terms of his assumptions he makes a VERY good case - combining as it does most of the best evidence others have brought to the table. I'm not knocking him, or you. Personalities are not my game. I couldn't care less. The plain fact is, none of us can present evidence of a steel core above 80ft; apparently because there isn't any other than those suspect blueprints. Chris Brown may never get hold of the video or anything else to prove the concrete core - and if that's the case then we'll have to proceed with what we have, ie the steel core - after all, there's nothing to disprove it right? As I think you said earlier in the thread, it OUGHT to be enough anyway. But what about if it does turn up? It could cause irreparable damage. You see today, if a concrete core can be proved then, as I mentioned before, suddenly the complicity is absolutely undeniable. But supposing 911 truth became HUGE, then 6 months later the video turned up. People would forget about the complicity as things were spun to make us look stupid for not being clever enough to even understand the basic design of the building. You know how these "things" work.
The truth is, as I watched Richard's video I kept thinking how little he'd have to change his presentation if the vid turned up tomorrow. He's right to proceed as he has this far and I commend his video highly, but if you are stating that he will ignore the concrete core if and when the proof turns up then I hope you are mistaken for all our sakes.
I seek the truth MLU, same as you. That's all.
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pirate118
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:13 am
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I'm posting this link simply because I found it while just browsing, I'm still trying to search the pages more, not sure one way or the other right now, but I do know that the documentary has been talked about by others for a bit.
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2854
Seems the video is the hot topic of this whole deal. Pick apart the discussion as needed. It's something to do here and there till the video surfaces. Somebody has to have a history buff relative that has this in a closet.
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:25 am
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Thanks for that Pirate. To be honest I'd deliberately avoided linking out to the BFN forum, but no worries. I've been lurking there regularly and posting very occasionally for quite some time. The debate is often very high level and informed but It's a dangerous place for the unwary. There are some ridiculously overblown (and well trained) egos present. That said, host FD is a truly brilliant political analyst on his day and he does knock out some good radio shows when he's on top of himself. Here's the one he did with Chris as guest. It's about an hour long and it's quite informative for anyone interested.
Broadband version: http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel070628a.mp3
Dialup version: http://www.breakfornews.com/audio/NextLevel070628.mp3
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pirate118
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:53 am
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I'm not really big on posting from one forum to another, but I liked the breakdown of the discussion on the page, not just a link to an audio file. Looking around there, mehhh, its like most places, good and bad mixed with the egos, like you stated. To be honest, I've come across a few good pages simply searching the title of the video that is being looked for.
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PAK
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:51 pm
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Time is on their side, yes it is.
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pirate118
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:54 pm
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glad I like that song, just wish the rest of it would play, not just that part! hahaha |
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No Way Oligarchs
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Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:54 pm
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Thx for that marklookingup. I'd forgotten about this post.
I think Chris argues that the pic shows additional steel framework around the core, rather than the core itself. He calls them "box columns" (to support the concrete floors) and lift shaft reinforcing rails IIRC and says that the core is inside that ring of steel and out of view.
I'm fairly certain he believes what he says and as a result I hope he finds his video, but as before, I shall continue to work with the assumption of a steel core until a concrete core can be proven. I agree with you that a steel core is what the best evidence currently supports - and I think Chris's position has started to look weaker, rather than stronger recently, so I fully expect it to stay that way.
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lester
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:27 am
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Nobody will ever know the truth of what happened and im pretty sure anyone that was involved is now dead or missing. But i think by now most people know that is is a coverup and something very strange happened that day. Those that believe are christian extremists or just plain dumb.
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