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PostThu Oct 25, 2007 1:26 am  Reply with quote  

Here are a number of different areas of the country. All the visibility is listed at 10 miles or less.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USMN0208?from=search_city

Duluth, MN - Clear, cool, medium humidity, visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USIL0344?from=search_city

Peoria, IL - Clear, cool, 49% humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USOR0146?from=search_city

Grants Pass, OR - Fair, cool, clear, 57% humidity - Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USAZ0166?from=search_city

Phoenix, AZ - Clear, 89 Degrees, 29.94% humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USCO0200?from=search_city

Idaho Springs, CO - Fair, 43 degrees, 50% humidity - Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USID0025?from=search_city

Boise, Idaho - Sunny, clear, 65 degrees, 49% humidity, Visibility 9 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USAZ0068?from=search_city

Flagstaff, AZ - Clear, 56 degrees, 25% humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USFL0372?from=search_city

Orlando, FL - cloudy, 72 degrees, 79% humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USUT0225?from=search_city

Salt Lake City, Utah - clear, 54 degrees, 67% humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USVT0233?from=search_city

Stowe, Vermont - partly cloudy, 39 degrees, 92% humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USME0265?from=search_city

New Portland, Maine - cloudy, 45 degrees, 72% humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USMO0460?from=search_city

Kansas City, MO - clear, 52 degrees, 48% humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USAL0375?from=search_city

Montgomery, AL - partly cloudy, 49 degrees, 88% humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USCO0078?from=search_city

Colorado Springs, CO - Clear, 52 degrees, 43% humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USCO0114?from=search_city

Durango, CO - clear, 60 degrees, 23 % humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USMD0313?from=search_city

Phoenix, MD - rain, 57 degrees, 87 % humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USMN0619?from=search_city

Red Lake Falls, MN - Partly cloudy, 47 degrees, 60 % humidity, Visibility 10 miles

http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/local/USNM0215?from=search_city

Nageezi, NM - Clear, 57 degrees, 25% humidity, Visibility 10 miles
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Maybe PostThu Oct 25, 2007 1:31 am  Reply with quote  

I have to say that I live 20 miles out of Chicago and I can frequently see the Sears Tower on the horizon.

Maybe that is the default maximum recording which that site provides.
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PostThu Oct 25, 2007 3:35 am  Reply with quote  

I will admit that I just looked at 10 separate locations on Weather Underground...and they all listed visibility at 10miles...maybe that is default definition for clear nighttime skies- as all places I looked would be dark now- I will check tomorrow...


definitely odd...

More so because I KNOW that is not the case....I can clearly see much farther than 10 miles almost daily...here in San Francisco where I live and Montana where I visit often...

So- trust your eyes- not what you read on the internet. I know there are days YOU can see farther than 10 miles...
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PostThu Oct 25, 2007 5:04 pm  Reply with quote  

There is no doubt that you can probably see farther than 10 miles, but it is no longer CLEAR or CRISP lines as in the past. I have traveled all over the US and the odd thing now, is that visibility is not clear, it is like looking through a veil. This is evident when flying and looking out a plane window, as well as just looking at the downtown while on my way to work. Even on a clear day, when trails are not evident, the view is not crisp anymore. It's very subtle, a bit blurred. It is as Carnicom has posted on his website, the Grand Canyon on a clear day, it is definitely not clear. I went to Crater Lake in June - I had been there maybe 18 years ago. It was a beautiful day, clear, sunny and cool. The lake looked different somehow, the mountains in the distance were visible, but again, like looking through a slight haze or veil, the lines were not sharp or crisp. There was no reflection in the lake this time, as I remember, and although it was a clear day, there was a definite haze, not fog. I know our atmosphere has been altered dramatically since I was a child. I traveled to the Grand Canyon back in the late 60's and it was sharp and intense, the colors, the mountains. I notice this now just about everywhere. I think because I am older I notice it more. Even beautiful days now, the scenery is just not crisp; it is even evident in photographs as many times there's just so much reflection in the pictures taken outside.

It also goes along with the fact that respiratory illness, allergies, asthma have dramatically increased in people in the US, along with increase in strokes and sudden heart attacks. My vet even told me that allergies in pets has increased dramatically and they can't really account for it.

Remember, we do not have the factory pollution that existed when I was a child. Most plants now are assembly only, they're not producing anything. Cars are cleaner and more efficient. What would universally, across the whole US account for this change except the atmosphere. And the only change to our atmosphere is the stepped up, relentless spraying.

It was like yesterday, driving back from Wisconsin on the highway, the sunset was spectacular - the whole sky was pink-orange, with other colors like a rainbow, and the sun was bright orange, but unfortunately it was not natural. The colors, the cloud lines, etc. were definitely man-made and the colors the result of the chemicals that linger in the atmosphere. It's just now the new normal. I was with family that do not believe me and they were amazed at the sight, knew it was unusual (they are old enough), but accept it as a natural phenomenom. It's too scary to realize that we are being sprayed like bugs and our atmosphere is being altered on such a huge scale.
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PostFri Oct 26, 2007 4:45 pm  Reply with quote  

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Originally posted by PAK
http://www.sat24.com/frame.php?html=view&country=de

Jasy posted this on the Satillite forum. Looks like scalar to me. Something is moving these clouds, in a symetrical pattern that is not natural.

I have been around a lot longer than most of you and KNOW FOR A FACT, without any fancy degree, that clouds, storms and the atmosphere has been altered dramatically since the late 50's early 60's. When I fly today, clouds are too even, evenly spaced out, gridded off, cirrus clouds below cumulus clouds, and the whole of the US is now enveloped in a perpetual haze. Visibility is 10 miles or less EVERYWHERE, EVERYDAY across the whole country. Storms appear out of nowhere, now we have "microbursts" a new term created in the late 90's by some Japanese scientist. It acts like a tornado but technically isn't a tornado, even though it does damage like a tornado. The technology exists, to pinpoint an exact place and take it out with satillites and HAARP. Cell towers have gone up everywhere, millions of them, and these are not just for your phones. The Elite scientists do not give us anything without a string attached. Just looking at the satillite photos Increase posts and others have posted in the past and the Jetstream is not moving naturally anymore. I am witnessing today, thunder storms that are incredible, with lightning flashing endlessly for hours, sometimes without any thunder, in a strobe light fashion. This is not natural, and it is not just being caused by the chemical spraying.


Non existing clear visibility anymore: There is always a chemhaze on the horizon, to get a clearer image of this LOOK AT SATELLITE IMAGERY! Best way as always, you see how they spray the globe -- with one single trail spanning whole continents. Even on clear blue sky days there is always a chemhaze or mist now on the horizon. Only have to fly very low to see it is not clear as it seems at all, or look ahead if you live where it is flat land and not obscured by buildings, could always try going up 20 floors to see what it looks like.


I suppose we can deny the Soviets used scalar technology, Germans know all about it though. Anyway what are those aerosols that are all rippled or as though I have been blowing them with a huge fan? Maybe only certain types of clouds go that way but I beg to differ.

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=scalar%20wave%20cloud&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

I am not saying I am right either way, just keeping options open on this age old technology!

I agree with you on the instant storms - I see cloud cover - and I mean total cloud cover instantly or within a very short time period from when the sky was totally clear or 70% clear with clouds that were dispersing not building up. I have considered offshore aerosol sprayings that may come inland from the sea because it can get windy up in the atmosphere even when not on the ground, I don't know. I just know I see total cloud cover within short time period when no spraying is happening.

Is it not possible to move objects and matter using EM waves? When it is possible to manipulate particles...if not then can't ionospheric heater be used to make storms more intense by allowing more radiation. I am sure the ones working on it know the answers to this, they can do this in isolated areas focused on storms or anywhere they want at any global position. Using this with nanoparticles would be more effective.

Didn't find exactly what I was looking for but Scott Stevens used to have some articles and videos from university sites on this. On his old site.

I was going to post links but search for yourself, nanoparticles and microfluids, magnetic nanocomposites are real and being used in experiments in humans in drug delivery systems and open environments. Atmospheric physics is another keyword. A few Swiss publications came up on those.

US and UK education sites have details on Soviet electromagnetic weapons. Not so sure they have anything on the side of manipulation of particles in weather weapons though. USGOV sites have some info on electromagnetic weapons but mostly on electronic warfare such as EMpulse, etc.

Try deleting and adding different keywords, such as weather or engineer. I don't think there is much to find but when looking at old publications that were declassified on NASA site they are no longer available.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=soviet+electromagnetic+weapons+site%3A.ac.uk&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=weather+electromagnetic+weapons+site%3A.edu&btnG=Search&meta=
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=weather+engineer+electromagnetic+weapons+site%3A.gov&btnG=Search&meta=



http://www.terraresearch.net/articles/earthquakeclouds_article1_file.html

http://netowne.com/environmental/contrails/willthomas/index.htm

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Located in Gakon, Alaska, an experimental U.S. Navy and Air Force
ionospheric heater known as the High-Frequency Active Auroral Research
Program (HAARP) has been projecting tightly-focused beams of intense
radio-frequency energy into the atmosphere for the past several years.

Bernard Eastlund, the inventor and original patent-holder for HAARP,
notes NATO interest in modifying the weather for military advantage.
In May, 1990 a NATO paper, "Modification of Tropospheric Propagation
Conditions" detailed how the atmosphere could be modified to absorb
electromagnetic radiation by spraying polymers behind high-flying
aircraft.

Absorbing microwaves transmitted by HAARP and other atmospheric
heaters linked from Puerto Rico, Germany and Russia, these artificial
mirrors could heat the air, inducing changes in the weather.

U.S. Patent 4253190 describes how a mirror made of "polyester resin"
could be held aloft by the pressure exerted by electromagnetic
radiation from a transmitter like HAARP.

A Ph.D. polymer researcher who wishes to remain anonymous told this
reporter that if HAARP's frequency output is matched to Earth's
magnetic field, its tightly-beamed energy could be imparted to
molecules "artificially introduced into this region." This highly
reactive state could then "promote polymerization and the formation of
new compounds," he explained.

An 18 member U.S. Weather Modification Advisory Board established in
April, 1977 has sought in vain to introduce a national weather
modification policy. The board's efforts have been hampered by
continuing uncertainties in weather prediction and weather's
trans-border aspects which have already sparked lawsuits from
litigants claiming to be harmed by floods resulting from weather
modification.

According to testimony before a House subcommittee on Science and
Technology in October, 1977 more than 60 countries were enagaged in
active weather modification at that time. A discussion paper released
at this early hearing called for "introducing perturbation energies to
redirect the atmosphere's 'natural' energies" using infusions of
chemical and electromagnetic energy.


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PostSat Oct 27, 2007 1:26 am  Reply with quote  

Thanks for the post FWO. Today, clouds moved in from the South, yesterday was clear, no spraying, no clouds, except on the southern horizon. Yesterday our weather man told us the front would move in from the South and showed it on the map as coming up in a complete 90 degree angle. Anyway, as predicted, today these clouds moved in enmasse from the south, except for this one odd thing I witnessed. The clouds were moving, low, from the South at a very good clip, but, on the ground the wind was moving from North to South - it was evident as a flag, among other things, moved with winds coming out of the north. Just another weird occurrence.
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Yep PostSat Oct 27, 2007 1:39 am  Reply with quote  

Funny how you post that, Pak.

I was observing the same thing yesterday. Usually our winds blow West - East, the prevailing winds. Yesterday, the winds were strong out of the East. I think I can explain it....

While a storm may circulate and seem to move east / west, the entire system is actually still moving to the east. We had some weird clouds yesterday, lots of right angles as seen from the ground. I posted a pic on the reporting thread if you're interested.

I would like to keep this thread clear of anything not related to Mr. Stevens, however. I have a lot of respect for this guy, and I'm dying to see where weatherwars will go next. Thanks for the interest!
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PostSun Oct 28, 2007 11:38 pm  Reply with quote  

The sad thing is PI, most of you who are young have no true knowledge of weather prior to 1980. While I do believe that Mr. Stevens posts a lot of very good information, I e-mailed him about my concerns, he directed me to a New Age website where we will all be beamed up at some point in time, those of us who believe anyway, kind of like the Christians, I realized he was a disinfo agent, I have no way of knowing if he himself is conned or a part of it. I just know, from my own experience in a lot of different areas, that the rabbit hole is very deep. It was well over more than a year ago, and he directed me to some mystical website, where the followers believed, at a certain time and place, they would be saved from all the horrors that the Elite have planned for us. We would be beamed up to a safe place in a space station. Kind of like Alex Jones, who does give you some of the Truth, but he profits off your fear and anxiety. He will not make a stand.

At the same time, much of his information is accurate - he is not your hero. The tragedy is that most of us have been led to believe we have to have heros, someone else whose an expert, knows more than us, to validate our own observations.
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Well, well it has been evident for some time Mr Stevens has been caught up in the *false religion of the New Age Movements. Too many theories and beliefs they have to go into it but lets just say for one moment their friendly occult side of things were true, I would be happy, let that Christ energy flow Very Happy Oh, no that can't be! No, Christ is gone according to vatican in the new age, a golden age awaits us all. To be fair though it is the Christ energy that will open up the new age or allow us to live it if we use the love energy as truth and freedom, a golden age may come about. Or it will in any case if the stars are any part of it...resulting in deconstruction/destruction of this world ready for the pure new golden age. Something the Nazis were preparing for so some say. All seems very dark occult science.


I don't think we need to look at Stevens personal views unless we think it effects his perspective on science, it may well do, but then we cannot prove all of the unseen is not real, everything is based on energies and forces in the universe, science is flawed/incomplete observation until it realises all of them. American scientists believe time travel technology splits time and matter into multiple universes or worlds when used.

*Who is anyone to say false religion exists, especially me, but the idea of only one genuine one is part of popular belief system. At least until we go back to occult side more the elite see it as progressing rather than going back into dark times.
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Yup PostThu Nov 01, 2007 2:28 am  Reply with quote  

If you can dispute his science, please do. I'm all ears.
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PostFri Nov 02, 2007 8:24 pm  Reply with quote  

Don't get me wrong PI, I think his website has a lot of good scientific information. I was just telling you what happened once, it was quite a long time ago, maybe a few years, that he directed me to a very strange website. That's all. I was trying to find it but did not save it at the time. I think it might be a part of Patrick Belringer's website, it was very much like that. Some woman was receiving messages from her ascended master as to the time when those in the light would be beamed up onto a space station to safety. Anyway, I was disappointed because I was hoping he would give me other, more relevant information. It doesn't matter, as I have now read tons of documents showing that weather modification, HAARP technology, scalar technology, and chemical spraying for population reduction is a reality.
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Thanks for the hearsay. After reading your latest posts, I find what you have to say suspicious at best. You warp things to serve your own views. I find you passionate about your views, but I think sometimes this is your Achilles heel.

I am in near complete disagreement with your posts on language. I have been keeping my mouth shut out of respect. I think you're right about some things and dead wrong about others. Would you mind citing sources from where you've heard these things?
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PostSat Nov 03, 2007 2:45 pm  Reply with quote  

PI


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Thanks for the hearsay. After reading your latest posts, I find what you have to say suspicious at best. You warp things to serve your own views. I find you passionate about your views, but I think sometimes this is your Achilles heel.

I am in near complete disagreement with your posts on language. I have been keeping my mouth shut out of respect. I think you're right about some things and dead wrong about others. Would you mind citing sources from where you've heard these things?


Is that meant for me? I'm confused as to what you are talking about.
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Yes, Pak.

I was referring to many of your posts on the English language lately. I appreciate you taking the time to comment, but I question the validity of many of these claims.
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