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SuperSaiyan
Joined: 25 Jul 2002
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Newbie Question..
 Thu Jul 25, 2002 8:45 pm
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I'm not understanding the whole Chemtrail issue. I have searched and read topics and all I seem to read and see is about planes spraying something into the air. What is this chemical? Is that the question we are trying to answer? Please excuse my lack of knowledge on this topic and please enlighten me. Thanks.
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Dan Rockwell
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Thu Jul 25, 2002 9:00 pm
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Welcome SuperSaiyan.
There are many theories as to what chemicals are being sprayed on us. Barium Stearite, Aluminum Oxide as well as certain biologicals may be involved but we can not really be certain about the exact combination or composition of chemicals that they are using. All we know is that people are getting sick from mysterious respiratory illnesses and developing skin rashes and other serious health problems.
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PacerLJ35
Joined: 18 Apr 2002
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Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:20 am
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And keep in mind the thousands of aircrew who fly through the skies daily and haven't managed to get this "mystery illness". And my Learjet doesn't have any fancy HEPA filters on it.
C. Dickens
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canex
Joined: 26 Oct 2000
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Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:27 am
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SuperSaiyan,
The mysterious chemicals being sprayed are H2O, CO2, soot, and insignificant amounts of various trace elements found in jet fuel. |
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Location: Damnit...I'm a doctor jim |
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Sat Jul 27, 2002 8:31 am
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A/T, if pilots and stewardess' ground crews, baggage handlers, frequent flyers...if any of them were getting sick...the world would know about it...look what a big deal *they* made about the drunk pilots and the "3 gallon" beer tab one had at the bar before a flight...
I'd think it's a fair assumption that whatever aerosol components are up there, they are not making any of those folks sick in any way...and it would be serious news if it did...
if what's up there comes down as it's been implied...then it is not making anyone sick down here either...
and that debunks the "chemtrails make you sick" proposal....
strike one and next on deck for the traveling chemtrailers...
airborne aerosol innoculation theory
followed by
radar defense shield
global warming mitigant
and rounding out the line up in the bottom of the nineth....
weather modification...
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David
Joined: 20 Oct 2000
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Sat Jul 27, 2002 4:03 pm
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Wow, for a non issue this is sure drawing the debunkers. bonehead,pacer,seeker and now canex/minnis, who is one in the same. Really guys, you are tipping your hand in this cyber gangbang. |
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crazymomlady
Joined: 12 Jul 2002
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Sat Jul 27, 2002 5:47 pm
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SuperSaiyan, to become informed on a subject a person needs to research both sides of a subject and form their own opinion based on the information at hand. Do not swallow either side of this issue whole just because I or anyone else says so.
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[Edited 1 times, lastly by crazymomlady on 07-27-2002] |
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eyesopen
Joined: 25 Apr 2001
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Sat Jul 27, 2002 8:15 pm
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At one point MegaSlayerNews had an article about pilots getting sick. Anyone else see or remember that. It was exactly about what the debunkers are saying isn't happening to pilots. |
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Sat Jul 27, 2002 11:54 pm
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A/T,
I can in no way say wether or not possible chemicals in contrails or chemtrails make anyone sick.
I can't either but the testimony of numerous pilots here and there says they don't cause sickness..
maybe it would be interesting to take the subject of eastlund's patent, and discuss it point by point with a rule of *no cross-threading* in it's own thread....and do the same with all the other implied uses/explanations for chemtrails....
would be nice to read something like that without having to weed through david's paranoid gutteral utterances...
btw, deborah...taken from northwestern OK, ten feet off Oklahoma avenue with a $6.77 walmart special ! ...was you trying to make a point ?!?!?!
(changed the above pic due to it's size and loading trouble, link to the old image below)
http://www.geocities.com/theseeker_0714b/ctwo.jpg
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Chem11
Joined: 21 Apr 2001
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Sun Jul 28, 2002 6:49 am
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I'm curious, T/S... is there something noteworthy or otherwise out-of-the-ordinary in the picture you've posted? And if not, why are you burning film on it?
What... you've never seen a street-light quite like that one?
Eyesopen, we revisted the pilot sickness sydrome on the forum a while back... it'll take some digging on my part, and I believe the original link has vanished, but the short version is that the pilot's union was very much up in arms over this mysterious illness that was vexing aircrews.
Any professed pilot who proffers the arguement that all is well because nobody spending any length of time in the air is getting sick is sadly misinformed or uniquely oblivious to the facts of the matter.
In other words, how can a pilot be completely oblivious to a serious risk to their colleagues health (and the associated risk to passengers and crew) when even the pilots union is screaming bloody murder?
Two possibilites present themselves, and neither is very comforting. |
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theseeker
Joined: 25 Jul 2000
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Sun Jul 28, 2002 7:57 am
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I'm curious, T/S... is there something noteworthy or otherwise out-of-the-ordinary in the picture you've posted? And if not, why are you burning film on it?
summer 99' a tinge of doubt still dwelled within me...
drop by the site and check my pictures tell me if there are any chemtrails there...promise you won't have any *beta* trouble....
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PacerLJ35
Joined: 18 Apr 2002
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Location: Millbrook, AL, USA |
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Sun Jul 28, 2002 11:27 am
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"Eyesopen, we revisted the pilot sickness sydrome on the forum a while back... it'll take some digging on my part, and I believe the original link has vanished, but the short version is that the pilot's union was very much up in arms over this mysterious illness that was vexing aircrews.
Any professed pilot who proffers the arguement that all is well because nobody spending any length of time in the air is getting sick is sadly misinformed or uniquely oblivious to the facts of the matter.
In other words, how can a pilot be completely oblivious to a serious risk to their colleagues health (and the associated risk to passengers and crew) when even the pilots union is screaming bloody murder?
Two possibilites present themselves, and neither is very comforting."
Let me put it to you this way: I'm not sick, and unless the other pilots I've flown with in the past 6 years only get sick at home, and miraculously get well in time to go in to work, they haven't been getting sick either.
It's funny that the chemtrail believers talk about this illness that causes respiratory problems and has even incapacitated and killed people (allegedly), but the many pilots I've worked with have never had any serious problems related to any "unknown" disease.
Only one person can I say had a "mystery" illness...an American airlines pilot who also flew for the National Guard....he had dizzy spells and hot flashes, and the docs pretty much felt it was an auto-immune disorder. No respiratory problems...nothing like the "flu-like" symptoms.
No, I can't speak for other pilots, but I can sure note my observations. And unless nearly every pilot I know can "make the symptoms go away" while working, they haven't been getting sick.
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