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Richard Burgeson
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New theory
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Nation wide obestity is not and accident. Let's stop were the buck does because it's obvious. Big pharma. The question is how did they do it. It could be a food additive, chemtrail induced, or something put in the water.
It could be a combination of chemicals put in any item but, specifically I think we are looking at the result of a biololgical here. This all has the print of either a bacterial or virus infection. As true as that sounds there is another possibility, it could be a mold or fungii, that can be passed in the food undetected. One thing is for sure, they do enough stomach surgeries in this country that they should have enough samples to find it in a hurry if they looked. It's easier to pass out wieght loss medicine than to look.
If you don't think big pharama would do such a thing look at the disclosure of three chemicals in a flu shot adding up to a psychotropic drug.
Do you remember when they started the campain if your piss foams you need this treatment? Somebody had the goods on them and put a stop to that one.
These companies are producing vaccines for chemtrails. I look at side affects of vaccines produced now days, (like Gulf War Syndrome) and say ya, we really need thoughs psychos flying over our heads. Chemtrails also elevate molds and fungii, less sunlight, and they could be dropping it into the trail mix, labs have found partial cancer cells in chemtrails. Is that report still on the net or did the government delete it?
It's not like the FDA is going to protect you, remember they supported putting Floride in your drinking water. The whole country has a eating disorder, except for a few politicians and elite. This can't be an accident.
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Tally27
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Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:33 pm
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I don't like to be disagreeable, but truthfully, I think one only has to look around to see the reasons behind obesity. Too much processed, fatty food, sitting around watching tv or playing computer games all day and not getting any kind of exercise, of course it's going to lead to weight issues. Then there's all the labour-saving devices we have now...for sure I appreciate them, but it just makes most peoples lifestyle that bit more sedentary.
Going back to my parents generation, as kids they ran around all day long, climbing trees and playing sports...most children these days would rather be indoors with their Playstation, drinking fizzy drinks and eating junk food.
I don't ban my son from any of those things but I certainly make sure he gets plenty of time running around in the fresh air, and healthy food too.
There have always been obese people, I think some people are more prone to it than others, but it's definitely becoming a more common occurrence. |
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Richard Burgeson
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| What about people who tell you they just can't go to sleep,
Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:24 pm
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without a full stomach? I've had people tell me they have to completely fill themselves to go to sleep. That's not natural, being stuffed naturally should make you feel uncomfortable. As for the list of fizzy drinks an faty foods, that would be a good place to start looking. Scientists have identified a chemical in soft drinks that disrupts DNA it's a benzoate I believe.
It's definitely for the control of molds. They only worry about DNA? What is in our food that irritates the digestive tract. There must be a reason some people prefer to go to sleep so full there stomach doesn't have room to work properly, someone has to find out what it is.
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Tally27
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Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:30 pm
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"Being stuffed" makes a lot of people drowsy, especially carbs. It would make sense that people would get sleepy after eating a lot.
I'm no expert, for all I know they are putting all kinds of weird crap in our food, but one thing I do know for sure is that eating sensibly and keeping active is the best prevention of obesity. |
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Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:15 pm
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I would have to agree with Tally on activity and eating better is a big help.
With that being stated, I also see a side in Richard's discussion. More money can be made in treatment than in finding a cure.
I'm on a medication, damn expensive for a month, if I had to buy it out of my pocket, No doubt I would go without. I questioned about a generic, the pharmacist explained to me "not enough money in a generic for this, not enough people take it" After that I spoke with my physician, he agreed. He told me that he could see why patients would consider alternative treatments given that the "standard" is so costly.
Now, unless something comes along to cure this, I'm taking the medication pretty much for the rest of my life.
you tell me, would you make more money treating me or finding a cure for me and everyone like me?
Remember, when you find a cure, you are out of business. If you can keep new treatments coming, then you keep money flowing.
I hate to think of it like that, but I do.
By the way, I have crohn's, it really doesn't rank that high on the list of social problems, unless you have it.
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Tally27
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Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:32 pm
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Well they're for sure getting their money's worth with the amount of stomach-stapling ops people are having. It's kinda crazy, most people over-eat for a reason and I don't think those reasons are going to go away just cause you resort to only being able to eat a teaspoon of food every meal or whatever.
Sorry, makes me vexed. I agree though, there is a ton more money to be made in treatment than in cure. |
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Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:14 pm
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To have a staple go right, it takes an all around treatment, you do have to treat the reasons for overeating as well as have the surgery.
They should be an absolute last resort, any mistake is just too risky.
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Regards the attaining of good health, I heard a discussion on late night radio and the guest said "In the U.S.A. sickness is treated, not cured. If a natural sucessful treatment for a particular illness is used in Europe the FDA will keep it out of America. In this country if doctor has good success if treating, say cancer, he will be targeted and attempt will be made to discredit him or her or he will be taken to court on some trumpted charge or he will be run out of the country. Decades ago when some knowledgeable individuals spoke up about eating raw fruits, greens, unfragmented grains, organic foods etc. they were insulted, called quacks.
Today, we also have the consequences of modern scientific technology. TA DAAAAAAAAAA we have genetically modified foods. For example, I understand they put a fish gene in the tomato to make it cold resistant. You'll have to do your own research on that if your interested. Many feel these GM foods are not beneficial to our health. I read that if a monarch butterfly lays it eggs on a GM plant, it's off spring will be deformed and or die. That's a fact.
Most super market foods have their life giving properties removed to accomodate a long shelf life. T.V. commercials promote foods that lack life giving properties, have artifical flavor, artifical coloring, contain unhealthy fats and other ingredients that have no business in the human body. This all contributes to obesity.
I feed my dog better than that, she eats no canned foods. Instead I saute in water a ground turkey patty with no antibiotics, chemicals etc., I add Wellness kibble and sprouts, or other veggies. I also feed her fresh ground buffalo patties. You can laugh if you want but I love my little pug dog and will feed her the best I can buy, |
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Tally27
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Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:57 am
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Kind of going off track a little, but still thinking about additives in food, I sometimes wonder if all the additives in things are causing so many kids to be diagnosed with ADHD and becoming zombiefied Ritalin users before they even hit their teens. If my son consumes anything with E102 (tartrazine) in it he gets incredibly hyperactive and hard to control. Hate having to read labels before buying anything! |
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Richard Burgeson
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| Phen phen diet
Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:35 pm
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The additives are the only thing on my mind here, people don't just injest food, they injest medicines, they transdermally absorbe all types of chemicals. The interaction between chemicals can be 1000s of times more powerful than either of the parent chemicals. These combinations have not been studied by the FDA at all. What has been studied however, is on the shelf at your local drug store. These medicines in some cases have a side affect list longer than your arm. It's not unusual to see liver and kidney damage, seizure, and death on the list.
GM foods if I understand correctly are herbicide and pesticide resistent. Which means to me they thrive in a poisoned envioment. Since a plant absorbes nutrients and water through the roots I assume these chemicals end up in the fruit and seeds of the plant. So simple logic dictates I am eating herbicdes and insecticides. I do not think there is a flaw in this simple logic, prove me wrong.
More often than not the cure is worse than the disease, Tons of money in diet everything exercise equipement and all the related tennis rackets and sports cloths. Wouldn't you like a chance to retire on the money spent on sport sneakers last year. Diet medicines are usually bad for your health. I titled this Phen-Phen so lets get on it. Destroys heart valves. Did it from the beginning though, or did the formula for one of the ingredients change after the FDA investigated? I don't have the resources to investigate so I have to leave this unanswered. It doesn't do any good to ask, the government does entirely to much lying so you can't trust the answer.
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Richard Burgeson
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| Oil companies lying again
Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:24 am
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We might as well talk about all the major military-industrial complex companies here. The news report is here.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070830/pl_nm/usa_gasoline_investigation_dc
Now you have all noticed the price for all the oil companies has been stagering steadily up in a perfectly orchistrated concert. Every company seems to have the exact same timed oil reserves? Enron did it's thing and got caught. These oil companies had to have been in on it and they have had to been in bed together long before that. Check the history, observe the charts. This is the fact part.
I say they are gouging the public to the point they are wrecking the economy right along with the rest of them. I put government contractors at the top of the list but these oil companies have to be in the top 3.
Look at the oil industries income, it's literally obscene. And they keep the profit. The inflation they cause gives stock holders no net gain. Really analyze the data.Some people may argue the income from stocks, we haven't faced the full extent of inflation yet, give it a bit. Most people don't understand the ramifications of the trillions of dollars we have in circulation right now.We are in big trouble, we are rocking stock markets world wide.
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| Health
Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:07 am
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End of the Species:
Various plastic particulates generally break down into polymers resembling hormones. All plastic cups and canned foods have these chemicals inside them. Many animals are having trouble reproducing, this is one way our species could end. Have a listen, it's fascinating (this starts 1/2 way through):
http://chicagopublicradio.org/Program_WV.aspx?episode=12981
http://www.endocrinedisruption.com/
google: Bisphenol A
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Richard Burgeson
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| Sorry can't find the old post so I'll put it here
Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:01 am
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I had a post discussing top bio engineers and technicians having all died, most suspiciously with in a year and then we had the bird flu pandemic information force fed us. Well it is time for an up date of sorts. 22 scientists from the Star Wars research has commited strange violent suicides in a very sort period of time. This is very hot now type of news.
http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/323.html
http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/305.html
There is a much better list of the biological scientists somewhere, they were killing off the best of the best. I left a long talk about the government spending 50 times what the private sector does for the last 50 years putting them 2500 years ahead of us in every scientific field. They are covering their tracks unwisely. Scientist had better hide records to be released upon the event of their death. Looks like the only insurance policy option they have.
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