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The Vatican exposed! PostWed Sep 12, 2007 9:14 am  Reply with quote  

Labarum - a military standard eh? Oh the irony - and I can't help noticing how the word comprises Al (reversed) and Ba - along with a drop of RUM, an intoxicant sometimes used in cocktails and long associated with the Navy.

Funny what one finds in Baal too, don't you think?

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PostWed Sep 12, 2007 2:00 pm  Reply with quote  

And Rum-Baal, like a rumble, a battle. Also, one of the videos posted, The Pharmacratic Inquisition, it shows how this symbol, if you slide down the X will make what is used by the Pharmaceutical Industry today, the Rx. It does seem they are conquering the people with these symbols. The spraying is so low, it is more than weather modification. Yesterday, it was incredible how thick, low the spray was. Personally, I think they are spraying drugs, and if affects people in different ways. Yesterday at work, people were coughing, sneezing, their eyes burning. But hey, must be a coincidence. Twice now, on my way to work, I had cars come at me driving on the wrong side of the road. It was like the driver woke up when I honked at them. They weren't drunk or swerving, nothing like that. It was weird.
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Re: How can these be classed as real or natural? PostWed Sep 12, 2007 3:00 pm  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by Free World Order
http://snipurl.com/1qi6b

http://snipurl.com/1qi6f

http://snipurl.com/1qi6c

http://weatheroffice.pyr.ec.gc.ca/clouds_f.html

Do natural clouds really exist?



OMG are you serious? Of course these are natural clouds! But by trying to make out that everything but Cu and SCu is somehow unnatural you just undermine any attempt to determine whether some clouds could be manmade. Or is that the point?
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Anything But Natural PostMon Dec 03, 2007 3:49 am  Reply with quote  

Isn't it amazing what the masters of our skies can accomplish with their fiendish scientific brains. Yikes !!!

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2326.html?theme=light
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PostThu Dec 20, 2007 12:47 am  Reply with quote  

Wondering what caused this strange cloud formation.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2350.html?theme=light
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PostThu Dec 20, 2007 2:34 pm  Reply with quote  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallstreak_holes
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PostThu Feb 07, 2008 1:16 am  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by Cloudy Skies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallstreak_holes


I have seen these.

http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa2/uploads/galleries/thumbs/gallthum_5_circles_1small.jpg

http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa2/uploads/galleries/thumbs/gallthum_5_2smalljpg.jpg

http://cloudappreciationsociety.org/version2/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/blair_heald_high.jpg
cloud of the month...?
http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/74/
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Re: Anything But Natural PostThu Feb 07, 2008 1:35 am  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by Jeanie
Isn't it amazing what the masters of our skies can accomplish with their fiendish scientific brains. Yikes !!!

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2326.html?theme=light


Ask Cloudy Skies what the natural observation of this is, there is always a scientific explanation. I suppose even ones scientists claim to have man made have a natural explanation - they are copied from nature after all - like almost everything man made.
http://www.livescience.com/technology/050202_light_show.html
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread10776-60.html

http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/13/are-man-made-tornadoes-the-answer-to-global-warming/

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FWO:
quote: Originally posted by Free World Order
http://snipurl.com/1qi6b

http://snipurl.com/1qi6f

http://snipurl.com/1qi6c

http://weatheroffice.pyr.ec.gc.ca/clouds_f.html

Do natural clouds really exist?

Cloudy Skies posted:

OMG are you serious? Of course these are natural clouds! But by trying to make out that everything but Cu and SCu is somehow unnatural you just undermine any attempt to determine whether some clouds could be manmade. Or is that the point?




Did I ask you to say you believed they were/are man made? Did I try to make anyone on here believe that? No, are my opinions or thoughts that are not opinions a crime, have I expressed thoughts or opinions, you can work that one out by yourself as you do with every other post on here. I like opposing posts of any form or kind. I did not register on this forum in 2006 to change anyone's thoughts, ideas or opinions. I have previously posted why several times. Do you think it bothers many or any if several hundred thousand or several million think chemtrails may exist?

I asked a question. Do old now unclassified documents from the 1940's on weather modification conclude that all weather is man made? (I will answer this one) No, did I say that, No.

And your point being here? Have you found out anything any of us do or not not already know?

You never know. This forum may be fortunate enough to not have me post after today (western time zones), Chinese New Year.

FYI: The word natural has no legal definition or obligation. Ask a Solicitor if you are not sure about this, or think why is it companies often use the word natural when 99.9% of it is unnatural. It makes the customer feel happy though...why else use the word if it is not true. Sad
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Photos PostThu Feb 07, 2008 1:47 am  Reply with quote  

Explain this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/perverted_introvert/sets/72157603304797428/

We'll start small then get to the bigger things. I'd like your explanation of these.
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Re: Photos PostThu Feb 07, 2008 7:05 pm  Reply with quote  

quote:
Originally posted by perverted_introvert
Explain this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/perverted_introvert/sets/72157603304797428/

We'll start small then get to the bigger things. I'd like your explanation of these.


http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/images/20071213213545_1374-cotswold-con-trails.jpg
http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/images/20071211160301_iridescent_allen.jpg
http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/images/20071210104630_p1130755_1_1.jpg
http://cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/images/20080206231552_23dec2007%20fog%20041.jpg
Well, PI. Don't you know those are man made contrails, NASA call these aerosols. And they are man made because they are contrails. Now that is a concern to me, it ought to be for many people if it affects climate change that has been known to possibly do this for over 50 years now. There were contrails caused by planes even before the jet plane, a bird may even make a contrail. Now explain to me how a contrail can span over 10,000 miles over more than one continent? There are more unexplained things we could go into. All we see are more names for clouds or clouds caused by trails - I can accept that. It still fails to explain many things. And scientists knew hundreds of years ago that only several types of clouds caused rain but this is no longer the case.

I am waiting for several U.S. government departments to respond to some of my questions they fail to explain, not sure how they will respond but expect them to tell me nothing new. Even though I explain to them how I understand conditions necessary for contrails to form, I do not use the word chemtrail in any of the letters, emails to them.

So, natural is not natural and is man made. Even the Society confirms this is true!

I am confident that at least over 90% of all aerosols or clouds are formed from so called contails. Are they chemtrails though...some aerosols you do not see the spraying of before the cloud forms because they are sprayed offshore over the ocean. Remember the word natural has no legal meaning or definition at all.

http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/index.php?x=browse&category=18&pagenum=1

Look at this "natural" cloud.
http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/index.php?showimage=3374

Some of my favourite ones are mountain top aerosols-clouds. Check more out to see trails morph into sheeted clouds or complete cloud cover. Beautiful really. You won't read that from me often about them.
http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/index.php?showimage=3369
http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/index.php?showimage=3566

http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/index.php?showimage=3467
Check out the contrail section, surprising how many clouds formations there are.
http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/index.php?showimage=3411
http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/index.php?showimage=3408



http://www.cloudappreciationsociety.org/gallery/index.php?showimage=3082

Have to love these low oceanic sprayed aerosols? They must just fall down from the sky. Unless, straight from the sea or ship tracks Laughing


Hopefully someone will post some scientific data on here from their samples that were tested or something.
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UK science - for free! PostFri Feb 08, 2008 10:54 am  Reply with quote  

FWO: Did you know you can ask your local water company for the results of their tests? My local (rather better than average) water co was happy to send me a summary when I asked them last year and I think it's written into their contract.

Annoyingly I mislaid the data within about ten days of receiving it so I can't quote anything here, but the data was quite revealing, if not exactly a smoking gun. For example, there was evidence to show that levels of aluminium in drinking water had breached the upper limit by more than a factor of twelve on at least one occasion - and there were other apparent anomalies too.

It's not really a substitute for getting your own tests done and the sceptic will always dismiss the link with the CTs in any case, but it's legal and free and I certainly found the exercise informative.
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We had our water company come out to us once, not a lot of use it did us. I did not ask for the test results but they did send us them, we do have some of the best water in the country and world, shame on the government that want to poison it and us with fluoride. Water is treated to reduce chemicals, bacteria, heavy metals and some elements already but has good in it as well. When we filter or use reverse osmosis or distillation all that is taken out, something we may need to do soon if we wanted to remove most of the fluoride.

I was surprised by the list of the test results that were sent to us that lead was not serious, I mean it can never be got rid of ever! And it has been used for long enough that it has polluted the whole planet, in soils of the earth, atmosphere, air, food even. We have advanced enough in science now though that tests show pesticide traces in crops that are organic from generations ago of spraying, so minute traces but still exist. Chemical industry and its legacy survives and still plagues us all daily.

And about the CT's we're sceptics about the sceptics, don't we know. History only gives us reason to.

I know some of the images I linked in my posts could easily be non suspect at all. After reading some posts on here from (more than one) others that had collected samples and paid independent labs to test them I thought possibly we may hear of some results. That is still okay though, if not.

Thanks for letting me know though Wink
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02-08-2008 PostSat Feb 09, 2008 3:52 am  Reply with quote  

I caught this beauty today:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/perverted_introvert/2251677718/

Does it freak you out that the sky suddenly looks like a giant oil slick?
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PostSat Feb 09, 2008 11:28 am  Reply with quote  

FWO: My info could be out of date but as I understand it only two water companies in England actively add fluoride, as part of an ongoing "trial": the rest do not. One company was South West Water, the other I'd need to research but I think it served the Birmingham area (which, IIRC gets most of its water from Welsh reservoirs).

Good point about filtering and distillation. I'm can't remember how long it takes, but it's true that humans cannot survive on distilled water indefinitely.

Nice pic PI. Here's a similar kind of thing I shot recently.

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/album_showpage.php?pic_id=1444

In real life the colours were about twice as strong as they appear in the photo, especially when viewed through polaroid sunglasses. We seem to be getting sprayed constantly nowadays and only very rarely does a blue sky last beyond 2pm. Solar mitigation happens virtually EVERY day and seemingly every incoming weather front gets heavily modified - usually by slowing it down (by spraying across the front of it), steering it in a particular direction (spraying on an angle) or by just destroying it. I've seen this so often that there's now no doubt whatsoever in my mind that our weather is subject to almost total human control these days - to the extent that I can often predict the aerosol events over the next 48 hrs with a reasonable degree of accuracy, especially over the winter months. Easiest of all are those days when the weather forecast says rain and because of the spraying you just know it's going to be a dry white out. It's interesting to see how the media modifies its reports during the day. They seem chemtrail aware, but in a very reactive way.

I'm drifting off-topic (again), but what if, I mean, just what if, Alzheimer's becomes endemic among our generation and beyond. What's the betting our morally relativistic children will celebrate the introduction of widespread euthanasia programmes to save the planet?

Keep up the good work guys.
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CHEMILUMINESCENT AEROSOLS PostSun Feb 10, 2008 7:14 pm  Reply with quote  

Thanks for the photo PI and NWO. I have not seen many of the examples you are both showing. I did see one like it end of last summer.

NWO: You're right about it being England. There are government plans to fluoridate more of our water supply and has been for many years, the last time the water company came out to visit us I asked about this and was told it is likely to happen in the future where I live. I started a thread about this relating to recent news and consultation which is several years old, it is illegal to fluoridate water in Scotland and Europe. Apparently against human rights.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread12962.html

Yes, I think this forum tolerates a lot, even off topic veering off into other threads...that and trading forums most friendly forums around IMO. I am one of the worst for this. A few posts on these forums suggested hiring a plane to take samples while filming this, just curious if we would need a second plane to do the filming of this or not, which way is best. If flying lower than 10,000 feet no flight plan is needed in UK to my knowledge. We may still be able to get enough samples taken.

The luminescent aerosols:

http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Colored_20Contrails
We already have them.

LUMINESCENT AEROSOL MARKER
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3744718.html
United States Patent 3744718

Application Number:
05/048591
Filing Date:
05/20/1970
Publication Date:
07/10/1973


Razz CHEMILUMINESCENT AEROSOLS
A method for forming a 3-dimensional marker for long range detection which comprises releasing an aerosol spray into the atmosphere consisting of a mixture of compounds whereby the reaction of the mixture produces a marker of light visible from any angle.



http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap031014.html

Want to see more?
http://snipurl.com/1ze60
http://snipurl.com/1ze6j
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread756-120.html
http://www.orbwar.com/solar-photon-trap-rainbow-beam.htm
Nature Trails...
Other links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_cloud
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridescent_cloud
Said to be natural occurring under different atmospheric conditions.

Just clouds....look more - find some say they come from contrails....
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