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No Way Oligarchs

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Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth Destroyed in High Court Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:46 am

A High Court Judge has ruled that there are at least TWENTY inaccuracies in Gore's elite sponsored Inconvenient Truths video.

(MSM is not reporting these. BBC for example mentions NINE error and only discusses four of the least serious)

Here's the original thread (if it survives): http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_thread/thread/0e60cf7f5d7993e2#

And here are eleven of the criticisms:

1. The film claims that melting snows on Mount Kilimanjaro evidence global
warming. The Government's expert was forced to concede that this is not
correct.

2. The film suggests that evidence from ice cores proves that rising CO2 causes
temperature increases over 650,000 years. The Court found that the film was
misleading: over that period the rises in CO2 lagged behind the temperature
rises by 800-2000 years.

3. The film uses emotive images of Hurricane Katrina and suggests that this has
been caused by global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that it
was "not possible" to attribute one-off events to global warming.

4. The film shows the drying up of Lake Chad and claims that this was caused by
global warming. The Government's expert had to accept that this was not the
case.

5. The film claims that a study showed that polar bears had drowned due to
disappearing arctic ice. It turned out that Mr Gore had misread the study: in
fact four polar bears drowned and this was because of a particularly violent
storm.

6. The film threatens that global warming could stop the Gulf Stream throwing
Europe into an ice age: the Claimant's evidence was that this was a scientific
impossibility.

7. The film blames global warming for species losses including coral reef
bleaching. The Government could not find any evidence to support this claim.

8. The film suggests that the Greenland ice covering could melt causing sea
levels to rise dangerously. The evidence is that Greenland will not melt for
millennia.

9. The film suggests that the Antarctic ice covering is melting, the evidence
was that it is in fact increasing.

10. The film suggests that sea levels could rise by 7m causing the displacement
of millions of people. In fact the evidence is that sea levels are expected to
rise by about 40cm over the next hundred years and that there is no such threat
of massive migration.

11. The film claims that rising sea levels has caused the evacuation of certain
Pacific islands to New Zealand. The Government are unable to substantiate this
and the Court observed that this appears to be a false claim.
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High Court Judge Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:14 am

And what does a High Court Judge know about science of any kind? Have you ever been in any kind of trial in the United States of America? Our laws are based on days of old in England. We should be a free society. Justice in this country is spelled $$$$$$$. Want to do well in court? Hire expensive lawyers, more than one preferably. With very few exceptions Judges may not be put on a bench unless they have passed the bar, not the one at the corner either. Maine is one State which does not require a Judge to have been a lawyer. Our system of justice is sick. I went to a trial in Florida as a spectator, I was not allowed into the courtroom because I did not have long pants on, just shorts (in 100 degree weather). What a bunch of hooey. It was completely acceptable however to wear clown pants. As far as I am concerned we lost our last freedom when the Supreme Court of the United States ruled we no longer have the right to own property. It may be taken by eminent domain. We can no longer stand our own ground. As for global warming, we have weather modification. Where would the courts stand on hearing about citizens dying over a miscalculation which would bring Katrina ashore as a hurricane, or a tornado that killed children in their school? Let's please be serious, we still put innocent people behind bars for years at a time. How about making the Justice Department responsible? Why do we allow Supreme Court Justices to have a lifetime appointment, are we nuts? Don't get me started on cops with those electrocution devices.

No Way Oligarchs

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Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:31 am

That's a strange post if I may say so BrassRat, so I'm only going to address the issues that relate closely to my OP.

You said:

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And what does a High Court Judge know about science of any kind?

Well I can't speak for US judges, but here in the UK, where this judgement was made, the judge makes a ruling on the basis on the evidence presented. Read the eleven points recorded and you'll find that often it says things like "The Government's expert was forced to concede that this is not correct". In other words, the judge's findings were that the SCIENCE could not back the claims made in the video, whereas your post implies that the judge was bribed to make this ruling, ie with your "justice in this country is spelled $$$$". Now I'm not suggesting our legal system is free of such issues, (though it is somewhat better than yours) but simple common sense should tell you that the "real" money is pushing Gore's BS video, not seeking to prevent it being used to indoctrinate our young. That's why the government was trying to defend the damned propaganda in the first place! This was a real victory for real little people and I for one am very glad about that.

Ultimately your post is misleading and disingenuous and the simple fact is myself, and a great many others in this country, will resist this climate change BS with all our hearts - not so much that idea that it's happening of course, for the scientific evidence supports that, but the idea that Joe Public is in any way shape or form as responsible as the crazy bastards that exploded nukes in our atmosphere, put nanoparticles in our air and all that other stuff is simply ridiculous.

EDIT: Of course, we DO all share a responsibility for our environment. I'm not denying that, but in light of the propaganda and the ongoing attempts to hoodwink and recruit the ignorant against us with this corrupted doctrine I personally feel that this has to take second place for now - the primary goal must first be to start to clean the dirt and deception from our corporations and public offices - and this judgement, in it's own small way, reflects that.

PS: Here are some former Nobel Peace Prize winners: Henry Kissinger (Oh Man!), the United bloody Nations (Rockefeller's puppet), Shimon Peres and Yitzak Rabin (Jeez), Fredrik De Klerk (Hah!), Mikhail Gorbachev (Eek), Manachem Begin (ouch) and even the man who helped engineer the destruction of your republic, Woodrow Wilson.
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Court Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:11 pm

Please excuse me for the error I made in location of the court system. I apologize. One man or a team of scientist in a courtroom making a point of view to a justice is just as difficult in making a recommendation to the general public. That we have changes in the ecosystem of the planet is an issue difficult at best to describe, especially when weather modification is in full swing by governments around the world. Russia was one country which was seriously interested in weather modification in the late 1800's. In determining the voltage in the clouds, it was a Russian scientist who discovered the non-contact field meter for measuring voltage. He dug a pit in the ground and used a metal plate to cover and uncover the pit. In modern times when the space shuttle was struck by lightning, a series of field meters were placed around the space center and data collected daily for years. Some of that data (data was lost for a period of time supposedly due to computer failure) was used by scientist to see if it could be used to substantiate effects of global warming. The data available which was used in the report did not validate global warming. Weather modification in the USA has been going on for so long that classified documents regarding its use are becoming declassified. If you check the congressional record in the USA of the 109th Congress and look for a Bill introduced by a Congressman from Colorado you will find it refers to an oversight panel to monitor the governments use of weather modification. Later in the record an amendment to the Bill was made which strikes out an amazing amount (estimate 90%) of the written component. It appears the Bill went no further. The University of Colorado is very heavily involved in weather information. Consider also Bush's stand on Global Warming, it is very smug. If he is keen on Weather Modification and Chemtrails he may be of the belief we as a country have global warming under wraps. Also, the USAF has a document which is not popular "Owning the weather in 2025". Recently on C-Span I was listening to Bush's speech on global warming, in between my partner calling him a boob and other nasties, he said we had spent billions on the problem. Billions is a lot of money, where exactly did it go. He appeared no more intelligent on the subject than a caged rat. His speech was totally from a teleprompter indicating his complete lack of interest in the subject. He mentioned CO2 many times during the speech and was promoting clean energy. I hope many others beside myself were listening between the lines and trying to hear past the catcalls. As a President, he is quite the idiot. In closing, I think perhaps the courts might want to steer clear of an issue so tightly wrapped in secrecy by more than one country. I bought Al Gore's DVD and watched it. Yes there is a lot of spin to wind people up and likely a bit of truth as well. But we are dealing with a public who have all they can do to raise their families day to day. They depend on their government to deal with serious issues. Unfortunately the governments have in my opinion failed miserably. It will take all people everywhere to be aware and it must be done. All the best to you.
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iGore Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:36 am

You forgot to mention product placement. Watch this video again and count the apple products you see. Did you know that Mr. Gore is on Apple's board of directors?
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Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:06 am

Louis, I have some questions and/or observations for you:

1.You seem to be implying that the judge was employed by BP, or was a BP man. This would be illegal in the UK, so please provide evidence of this and I will take it up with the authorities concerned

2.You seem to be implying that the judge is not a servant of state but is in fact ruled or controlled in some way by corporations or as you put it, corporate masters. This would be illegal in the UK so please provide evidence and I will pursue it with the relevant authorities

3.You accuse the judge of making “corporate cheep” (sic) shots at Al Gore. In fact, the judge asked government scientists to provide evidence for the claims made in the Gore's propaganda video, which they could not. The reality is quite different from the illusion you have tried to create with your post and exposes the lack of scientific consensus backing Gore's nonsense once and for all.

4.You said “real science truth of human induced global warming is overwhelming”, but if that were the case, then wouldn't the government case have been able to demonstrate that in court? Are you suggesting they weren't trying hard enough, or that they too are in some way in league with what you call the mouthpiece lackeys? If you have evidence that the British legal machinery is resolutely anti-corporation I'd like to see it.

5.You said “The world scientific community is unanimous in agreement on this finding” (meaning the validity and reliability of Gore's propaganda). This is untrue. Among those who have checked the claims for veracity, the consensus seems to be that the central tenets are being deliberately confused and misused in order to achieve political ends. Your side makes a lot of noise, as it always does, but it is not unanimous – and as the court ruling shows – when the chips are down, the evidence of MM CC DOES NOT STAND UP IN COURT!

6.You imply that those who disagree with you are paid shills, so I guess I can expect to receive a check soon right? No, from my research I'd say the paid shills are on your side dude – as anyone who reads your posts clearly can see for themselves. (Care to repeat that crap you said about Amahdinejad recently for example?). Either you are a world government shill or a Zionist or something equally vacuous, self-centered and deceitful, but one things for certain, you do not represent the interests of what I shall call the “common man”

7.Al Gore's winning the Peace Prize doesn't affect the global energy monopoly's profits one bit. Why are you pretending this to be so? The climate change exploitation was “invented” by the Club of Rome in to create fear in order to allow for the creation of global government (tyranny), the suppression of individual freedom and consciousness. It is WE who will suffer and the corporations will be laughing all the way to the bank, as per always. Your apologetics are obscene.

8.You stated that “Bush that have been trying so hard to suppress the scientific findings of so many world climate scientist and researchers”, but I see no evidence of this. In fact, again it's utter BS. If not, then tell me how SoreThroat manages to find three of four pages of “elite agenda” supporting BS to post every day. I've given up reading that stupid thread because of the disinfo it contains, but the very fact that the thread exists shatters your point into dust; so for that at least I am grateful that you shills have a tendency to destroy each other with your lies.

9.Your proud assertion that “today we see that there is actually someone willing to fight for truth regardless of what the answers might be” is simply disinfo. Since when have government lawyers done that? The guy really fighting for truth was Mr Dimmock, who had the guts to take on your bandwagon in the High Court: not you, or your paymasters. That he won warms my heart. For once justice has been served – and all you can do is try to distort the facts.

10.Finally, you said “today is a good day for the people, not the corporations and the greed that drives them”. Yes it is, but the sense in which you use the phrase is simply another attempt to mislead. The “people” in this case, were being represented by Mr Dimmock, and he won. Your corporate/elitist/globalist shills were asked to put their evidence where their money is and they failed; just as you have failed to spin this story your way.

Now Louis, I didn't write this to start of flame war with you as I actually like your “character” on this site (and others), but as one who believes in chemtrails, don't you feel just a teeny-weeny bit guilty about your position? After all, in the context of daily spraying across the globe (pretty much), the idea that my car exhaust is a really important contributor to global warming in comparison is just ridiculous and you know it.

First stop the chemtrails, then we can talk about what we might do about the environment, should there be any need to once that catastrophe has been eliminated.

PS: Here are some former Nobel Peace Prize winners: Henry Kissinger (Oh Man!), the United bloody Nations (Rockefeller's puppet), Shimon Peres and Yitzak Rabin (Jeez), Fredrik De Klerk (Hah!), Mikhail Gorbachev (Eek), Manachem Begin (ouch) and even the man who helped engineer the destruction of your republic, Woodrow Wilson.
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Gore for President Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:00 pm

There's been a lot of chatter about Gore running for president, especially on Fox News today. I found this interesting:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/14/wgore114.xml
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There is global weather problems Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:37 am

Every planet in the Solar System is heating up, the sun has changed so much reclassification has been considered. Yes big oil big profits, and I agree the government is guilty of weather modification programs. Not to make your life better either, they intend to use it as a weapon. There is much more, big money is pushing other agendas into the chemtrail program. Big pharma is making vaccines, and other interests are involved too. The evidence collected and studied by true scientific method does not indicate man made pollution is causing global warming. It is however, causing Oxygen depletion in our atmosphere and much to the dismay of big oil means we must kick the oil habit. It is time to switch to Hydrogen power from water or resign from the remedial breathing club.
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Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:09 am

That may well be true Richard, but it doesn't get away from the fact that Gore's video (hah, as if he does anything but front for the damned thing) is NOT an appropriate teaching aid in British schools. Sure the teacher COULD point out all the errors but most of them won't - they'll just take the propagandistic pseudo-science at face value and spout it out. Raising political awareness is not on the syllabus - shaping the minds of our children into passive little Gaia worshippers is.

Here, look at this for example.

http://www.wwf.org.uk/core/about/cymru_0000002774.asp

The WWF - ahh, all those cuddly little aminals FFS!!
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Paganism Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:53 am

shaping the minds of our children into passive little Gaia worshippers is.

I define Paganism as, "worshipping the creation rather than the creator."

Do you know who is behind the WWF?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Fund_for_Nature

The group says its mission is "to halt and reverse the destruction of our natural environment".

How?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

http://www.panda.org/about_wwf/who_we_are/history/sixties/index.cfm

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One of the most important figures in WWF's early history was the renowned British biologist, Sir Julian Huxley.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Huxley

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Huxley came from the distinguished Huxley family. His brother was the writer Aldous Huxley

Have you ever read A Brave New World? Ever wonder where he got his ideas?

The organization was formed and registered as a charitable trust on 11 September 1961

Wow, September 11, 1961. 50 years to the date of 9/11. Coincidence?

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At times in their history, major donors have included Chevron and Exxon (each donating more than $50,000 in 1988), Philip Morris, Mobil, and Morgan Guaranty Trust.

Okay, Chevron, Mobil, and Exxon = Gasoline / Petrol.

Philip Morris = Tobacco

Morgan Guaranty Trust? Please see my posts on Chase Bank.

The moral of the story is this: Just because an organization has a cuddly panda logo, don't for a minute doubt their intentions.

I am an animal lover myself, but this scares me. All comments appreciated.
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This Explains Everything! Please Read! Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:29 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Fund_for_Nature

WWF has been accused by a number of environmental groups and campaigners, such as Corporate Watch and PR Watch of being too close to businesses to campaign objectively. Their own Corporate Club provides promotional opportunities for companies to use the WWF name and logo as a promotional tool. Currently WWF is cooperating with Coca-Cola, Nokia, Canon, and others.

Presidents

HRH Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands (1962–1976)
John H Loudon (1976–1981)
HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (1981–1996)
Syed Babar Ali (1996–1999)
Ruud Lubbers (2000–2000)
Hon. Sara Morrison (2000–2001)
Chief Emeka Anyaoku (2001–present)

1.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Bernhard_of_the_Netherlands

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He also established the 1001 Club:A Nature Trust in 1970 to fund the organization. He helped found the Rotary International and was one of two founders of the Bilderberg Group

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After World War I, Bernhard's family lost their German principality and the revenue that came with it.

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Bernhard joined the NSDAP, the SA and a special branch of the SS called the "Reiter SS" (SS on horseback). The Prince was not a Nazi by conviction; these memberships made life easier for an ambitious young man.

[b]Yeah, but he loves animals!

The Prince eventually went to work for the German chemical company, IG Farben. After a period of training, he became Secretary to the Board of Directors at the Paris office in 1935.

He made a point of wearing his medals in the English "Court style". The Dutch armed forces wear their medals in a manner that is copied from the Prussian Army. The Prince's deliberate disobedience of the regulations was not widely noticed but it is a clear sign of his allegiance.

In England, Prince Bernhard asked to work in British Intelligence but the War Admiralty, and later General Eisenhower's Allied Command offices, did not trust him

Queen Wilhelmina erased the word "honorary" (the exact words were " à la suite") in the decree that promoted Bernhard to General. In this unconstitutional manner she gave this Royal Prince a position that was never intended by either parliament or her ministers. The minister of defence did not choose to correct the monarch and the Prince took a real and important role in the Dutch Armed forces.

He was made a member of the board of supervisors of Fokker Aircraft, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, and within a few years was invited to serve as an adviser or non-executive director of numerous corporations and institutions.

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There have been claims about KLM helping Nazis to leave Germany to Argentina in KLM flights, while he was on the board of the KLM

in May 1954 he was a key figure in organising a meeting at the Bilderberg Hotel in the Netherlands for the business elite and intellectuals of the Western World to discuss the economic problems in the face of the then growing threat from communism. As a result of the success of this first meeting, it became an annual affair known as the Bilderberg Group. The idea for the European Union, first proposed by Robert Schuman on May 9, 1950, was encouraged at Bilderberg.

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More.... Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:43 am

This may deserve its own post.

I have purposefully left the best for you to read. This is a damning article, I hope it makes you angry. Please read this and comment!
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Heh, one more.... Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:03 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip%2C_Duke_of_Edinburgh

Originally a Prince of Greece and Denmark, Prince Philip abandoned these titles shortly before his marriage. At the time of his engagement he was known as Lieutenant Philip Mountbatten. In 1947, he married Princess Elizabeth, the heiress to King George VI. Prince Philip was a member of the German House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg, which includes the royal houses of Denmark, Norway and Greece.

Philip has survived his four elder sisters, all of whom married German princes

It has been reported by the BBC that inhabitants of some small villages in Vanuatu, an island nation located in the South Pacific Ocean, worship Prince Philip as a god. Islanders have been interviewed and pictured with portraits, sent with Prince Philip's permission

Controversial remarks

This is well worth a read. I can't quote them all. Here's one:

"If it has four legs and is not a chair, has wings and is not an aeroplane, or swims and is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it."
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Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:59 am

I remember a documentary on the BBC about 15 yrs ago on Vanuatu. Apparently one or other collection of scum-sucking leeches had offloaded a container ship full of toxic waste on an especially beautiful beach there - or more correctly a whole coastline. I think they gave some kind of kickback to government - or maybe even tried to, got refused and then dumped their crap anyway because they were tough and Vanuatu was not.

Either way, there were barrels and barrels of such loveliness as dioxin and worse piled up on the beach. Hundreds of 'em. Some containers were marked, some weren't and many were leaking or simply falling to pieces but there was no money to do anything about it other than sit and watch them rot. It was an ecological disaster on a huge scale and quite a key moment for me in terms of realizing that the world worked rather differently than I thought it did. I don't remember hearing about it after that, but if it drove them all nuts it might explain why the islanders have taken to worshiping Phil the Greek.

Check out these two stories I posted elsewhere too, about waste dumping and Mafia links. It's all related I suspect - and I also suspect it's merely the very tip of a gigantic iceberg.

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2007/10/09/mafia_probed_for_selling_nuclear_waste/1424
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2186640,00.html

Hey teacher, why don't you do something useful and teach those young minds about this instead of reinforcing Gore's BS?
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