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Hi Lophofo, welcome to CTC.
Thanks for that first post which calls Fui Socrates. Is this name number 5?
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It's as if they are contributing/causing this in order to get the funding they want for a different purpose. But, people will buy it...because it's all about global warming right now...and Al Gore.
Hi Lophofo, long time, no talk since the Gastronamus days. Can't really get into this too much here. But yeah, Man&Nature, may41970, Don Smith, and myself made it over to the forum in my signature.
We were talking about all this almost a year ago. I remember you came up with the link showing how fog can be synthetically produced. Too bad chemtrails are portrayed as such craziness. But we have some solid threads. The new bill talks about "weather mitigation." so yeah, we figured it out. despite the spooks being all over the internet.
As for the new policies against trolling, it should be applied equally. So PI says I have 5 id's or whatever, even though I have always explained who I was and where. So does this mean I can respond to him and ask who but a spook would be named a perverted introvert?
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Maybe I'm not really an introvert, either.
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Can't really get into this too much here. But yeah, Man&Nature, may41970, Don Smith, and myself made it over to the forum in my signature.
Is this an admission of multiple ids?
I don't really have a problem with your content, I simply haven't liked you ever since you did the whole, "I'm leaving, and never coming back!" thing. Repeatedly.
I don't find you posting anything useful, usually you only stir up trouble. Keep posting, I like consistency 
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to not just the Russians but the Chinese on how to so spray chemtrails to manipulate and steer hurricane Katrina. Add to that your later bragging about punishing the folks in the south who voted for Bush do you really think I give a dam what you think? GET REAL lol
One word comes to mind when I think about that and it is MORON.
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Hi Lophofo, welcome to CTC.
Thanks for that first post which calls Fui Socrates. Is this name number 5?
Thank you for the welcome. Just because someone decides to finally post when seeing a familiar name doesn't mean this name is associated with that individual. 
I met Socrates over at Gastronamus, along with Mark Looking Up, (Lou/ Altitudelou) Louis Aubuchont, KnowThis, Swamp Gas, Thetaloops, Big Bunny, Halva and others. They had talked about Thermite and this board before.
Socarates (his ID at Gastronamus) had told us his ID over here was FUIwon'tDoWhatUTellMe. I assume it's taken from the Rage Against the Machine song "Killing in the Name" with those lyrics at the end, repeated over and over.
Any way, I have used Lophofo for many things...even have an XBox Live ID with it. It's the only name I use. It doesn't mean that this is Socrates's 5th ID or whatever.
When I couldn't register as a member here, I read. For some reason this forum was closed a year ago to open registration and then seemed to open up again this Summer. During that time, I was at Gastronamus, but even there I didn't do much posting. I read more than I posted.
Socrates,
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We were talking about all this almost a year ago. I remember you came up with the link showing how fog can be synthetically produced. Too bad chemtrails are portrayed as such craziness. But we have some solid threads. The new bill talks about "weather mitigation." so yeah, we figured it out. despite the spooks being all over the internet.
Yeah, I'll check out the forum invite you sent me. There were some good times at Gastro. And, it was a year ago...it was last November, indeed.
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It's not a crime; it's not even unethical. Unless that person uses his different ids as "sock-puppets" - like holding conversations with themselves at the same message-board.
Socrates uses different ids at different message boards. It's never been a secret; he's never kept it a secret. He volunteers this information freely. That's something which I consider honorable. He openly admits to his different id's, and he doesn't post as more than one id at any individual message board - as far as I know.
All these people that criticize socrates for posting under different ids - what's so wrong with it? Take a look at yourselves first. Can you honestly say that you only post under one id ever? And if not, then are you willing to volunteer all the different ids that you use?
There is nothing unethical about using different ids at different message boards. And there's nothing wrong with keeping that information private, if you so desire. AS LONG AS IT'S ONLY ONE ID PER BOARD. Kudos to socrates for having the integrity to admit who he is and who he posts as.
If it matters, I've only used two ids ever (with the exception of the old Yahoo Message Boards): "Will Kane" at wrh unofficial and "may41970" everywhere else. That's information that I shouldn't have to share, but I'm sharing it anyways.
The administrators here at CTC know my ip. They know what city/country it appears to come from. They also know socrates' ip, and where it appears to come from. Doesn't prove anything, but maybe it means something little. (Likewise the administrators here also know which single-ip addresses have multiple id's posting from them)
If Socrates has ever held a conversation with himself using his different ids; if he's ever used his ids as sock-puppets; if he's ever used more than one id at any message board - than please post evidence of it. Otherwise, maybe it's time to stop attacking the messenger, and listening a little instead.
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| Re: Coming from someone who bragged about providing intellig
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to not just the Russians but the Chinese on how to so spray chemtrails to manipulate and steer hurricane Katrina. Add to that your later bragging about punishing the folks in the south who voted for Bush do you really think I give a dam what you think? GET REAL lol
One word comes to mind when I think about that and it is MORON.
We have International airways any military airforce can fly in as we saw this year several times with Russian Air Force and NATO AF that accompanied them. We could have many countries spraying against each other, but what does the evidence suggest? Is it like that or do we have a global one world governmental agreement? There are only so many countries capable of this, several EU countries, USA, Russia and China. Are the main ones that comes to mind, the most robust Military Air Forces being US and European, UK and German. Russia has some great new Aircraft technology, China seems to be lagging behind still but has the largest Airforce in the world. Israel and Arab nations can do it though, they spend billions on aircraft as do some rogue states. So what is it?
It is debatable as to how many military units are needed for global or continent operations, I would say much fewer than you think, once enough blanket aerosol cover is established they can fly much faster above making more aerosol layers. Now with silent aircraft technology, we would not hear the noise if they are a few thousand feet up. Some radars have recorded speeds of several thousands miles per hour, including airforce radar centres, sometimes we question if these sources are genuine. This is why some think zero gravity tech exists, we cannot prove it either way.
This weather modification technology is so old and only now starting to become knwon to the mainstream in recent decades, the media use a blockage to deny its effectiveness and even whether it exists or not but now that is failing - about time, they do this with many things.
We used radar chaff during WWII, why not weather modification back then? We know weather modification existed during the 1950's because declassified documents exist to prove it, what we do not agree on is the exact technologies used and how advanced they are or the equipment and methods used. Maybe we got the idea of weather modification from aluminium radar chaff after WWII, or were the Nazis ahead of us as always and already experimenting.
My posts needs editing badly I know. 
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Originally posted by 57sweptside
I'm surprised nobody keyed on this yet.
Good find. And thanks may41970 for telling me about this one.
I posted this at our place and added the following.
link
A military link was taken down in which the US military admitted to the enmod techniques.
This link is no longer available:
http://www.dtc.army.mil/tts/1997/proceed/abarnes/
Here is all that I can find that is still available.
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TTS '97 - Potential Weather Modification Capabilities AF 2025
POTENTIAL WEATHER MODIFICATION CAPABILITIES AF 2025
DEGRADE ENEMY FORCES
Precipitation Enhancement
Flood Lines of Communication
Reduce PGM/Recce Effectiveness
Decrease Comfort Level/Morale
Storm Enhancement
Deny Operations
Precipitation Denial
Deny Fresh Water
Induce Drought
Space Weather
Disrupt Communications/Radar
Disable/Destroy Space Assets
Fog and Cloud Removal
Deny Concealment
Increase Vulnerability to PGM/Recce
Detect Hostile Weather Activities
ENHANCE FRIENDLY FORCES
Precipitation Avoidance
Maintain/Improve LOC
Maintain Visibility
Maintain Comfort Level/Morale
Storm Modification
Choose Battlespace Environment
Space Weather
Improve Communication Reliability
Intercept Enemy Transmissions
Revitalize Space Assets
Fog and Cloud Generation
Increase Concealment
Fog and Cloud Removal
Maintain Airfield Operations
Enhance PGM Effectiveness
Defend Against Enemy Capabilities
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“From enhancing friendly operations or disrupting those of the enemy via small-scale tailoring of natural weather patterns to complete dominance of global communications and counterspace control, weather-modification offers the war fighter a wide-range of possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary. Some of the potential capabilities a weather-modification system could provide to a war-fighting commander in chief (CINC) are listed” above.
“Technology advancements in five major areas are necessary for an integrated weather-modification capability: (1) advanced nonlinear modeling techniques, (2) computational capability, (3) information gathering and transmission, (4) a global sensor array, and (5) weather intervention techniques. Some intervention tools exist today and others may be developed and refined in the future.”
The above table and quotes are from ‘Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025,' Chapter 15, Volume 3, AF 2025
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TTS '97 - Treaty Issues
TREATY ISSUES
The U. N. Convention on the Prohibition of Military or any other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification, which went into effect 5 October 1978, applies only to “widespread, long-lasting or severe” environmental modifications.
Local, non-permanent changes, such as precipitation enhancement, hail suppression
Since 1978 the official Air Force position has been that weather modification had little utility or military payoff as a weapon of war.
The official Air Force position needs to be reevaluated:
In the light of 19 years of scientific advances
In the light of advanced weapon systems which are more environmentally sensitive
To prepare against technological surprise
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Air University's SPACECAST 2020 contains a section on Counterforce Weather Control for force enhancement which identifies the necessary prerequisites
“Atmospheric scientists have pursued terrestrial weather modification in earnest since the 1940s, but have made little progress because of scientific, legal, and social concerns, as well as certain controls at various government levels. Using environmental modification techniques to destroy, damage, or injure another state are prohibited. However, space presents us with a new arena, technology provides new opportunities, and our conception of future capabilities compels a reexamination of this sensitive and potentially risky topic.”
“The difficulty, cost, and risk of developing a weather control system for military applications are extremely high. However, the potential benefits for national security
I could only retrieve one picture from the Italian chemtrails forum which they had copied. Anything that looks good has to be copied from now on or else the fascists in power will just delete it at some point.
They don't play fair. Once we figure things out, they take down the links.
There were other ones. I remember one that talked about using black carbon for weather modification.
Thankfully, at least some of it has survived the censorship.
Chemtrails are real. I no longer have any doubts. Not one.
This is an open message to all in the military. Stop being fascist pigs and start enforcing the constitution.
You know the part where it says we the people? You can't all be gutless pigs, can you?
Is it here:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.dtc.army.mil/tts/1997/proceed/abarnes/
ENMOD?
Not got time to look myself. If not then we need to start our own archive engine. That spiders the net like Google does on topics we want archived.
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to not just the Russians but the Chinese on how to so spray chemtrails to manipulate and steer hurricane Katrina. Add to that your later bragging about punishing the folks in the south who voted for Bush do you really think I give a dam what you think? GET REAL lol
One word comes to mind when I think about that and it is MORON.
Yes, the south did vote for that moron in the white house. They also voted for a completely delusional reality based on Stlaintists principals of a "Social reality". As we seen today with the WH bashing FEMA for generating a fake news brief, with their own employees asking the questions. What a social deluded reality our government has become. All of these people were most likely Republican Political Appointies whose terms will expire when Clinton is put into office in '08. It's their one last grasp at some sort of power before they rightfully booted from office for being the completely incompetent and the sorryist excuses for people that they are. I have balls to stand up to world leaders and political leaders and obtain help however necessary to reach my disired outcome. A Democrat with balls, imagine that one.
The Chinese and Russians are heavily involved with weather modifcation. One of Beardon's main sticking points Starman, was "Russia did not need Chemtrails because they have Scalar", okay Starman, what's the latest excuse/lie for me debunking that claim in 2003? |
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It's why I say, "Obama o' yo mama 2008"
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Russia still needs to spray aerosols if they use Scalar - electromagnetic warfare. This have been known for almost ten years in the mainstream and talked about by some people since the 1970's. A few members of this site have questioned who Bearden really works for. I think some things are more important than proving whether scalar exists or not. If there is no scalar and all that is electromagnetic is EMP weapons then the US should be concerned even if this tech is not going to be used. China know all your secrets, everything!
Will Russia defend Iran? Or are they playing those funny friendly war games that try to create fear but fail, well the oldstyle cold war games were fun but IMO the US caused most of it. Although the Soviets had a plan to nuke every European country, strictly speaking the UK is not part of. And the UK sold almost all nuclear secrets to them from MI6 double agents. There has always been a love hate relationship I guess. I do hope Russia intervene if anyone invades Iran when they do not attack any other state. They can roll those tanks in, hopefully non of their new high tech missiles will be used that hold 4 nuke warheads per missile. Because they claim they get past any missile defence system. All seems like friendly war games to me. What will the elite controlled US make happen though?
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Russia still needs to spray aerosols if they use Scalar - electromagnetic warfare. This have been known for almost ten years in the mainstream and talked about by some people since the 1970's.
All weather modification back in the 60's and 70's and well into the 90's was short term weather modification. Only since 2005 or so has the weather models become good enough to venture into the 96hr period for fairly specific weather modification. The stats from the HPC spell it out and clueless people with no weather skills keep crowing and putting the Russians and US on a stair step for weather modification. I can kick their ass when it comes to weather modification and I was 21 y/o when I first did it. A 3rd yr Physics student in 2002, graduated in '04. They got slaughtered and these are the best of the best for meteorlogical talent. Here's proof enough, the RMS by computer models through 7 days.
Also a history of computer models going back to the 70's. Where oh where is this "great" meteorlogical talent that could manupliate the weather back in the 70's. Yeesh, these are facts right here not made up junk science. Keep in mind that the models run 4 times a day and that only the best solution is counted in the offical statstics. The other 3 solutions are discarded, so the model stats are skewed. They are much worse than shown here. Again, please tell me how the Russians could do this with precision as claimed by the Scalar Community. ESPCIALLY!!! When the Russians never had Super Computer to run weather models!
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| The end justifies the means?
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I have balls to stand up to world leaders and political leaders and obtain help however necessary to reach my disired outcome. A Democrat with balls, imagine that one.
Democrat with balls? LOL Thank God I am Republican...
How many of those poor black folk voted for Bush?
Have you ever heard of DIEBOLD?
Like I said anybody who would brag about sharing info with the Russians with the intended puropose of destroying life and property here in their own country is nothing short of treason.
Of course nobody here believes that you actually did this but if it makes you feel important just remember what goes around comes around.
You got your chemtrail thing happening here and you are good at that but once you step outside your "realm" of what is possible and what is not you could try being a little more open minded and less childish.
That last post about me being sexually interested in you about turned my stomach ok. So let's keep this on a more professional level why don''t we?
More links on visual ray and the psychic abilities of others who are able to use mind over matter methods to help bring balance to nature. Yup just like the Indians used to do it. Living in the Matrix never felt so good!
Here are a few links of interest regarding other uses for manipulating weather and people.
http://educate-yourself.org/db/chemtrailsandSWT04oct07.shtml
http://educate-yourself.org/dc/disablinghaarpicanes04nov05.shtml
http://www.borderlands.com/constable.htm
http://inventors.about.com/od/qrstartinventors/a/orgone.htm
http://montalk.net/science/109/scalar-superpotential-theory
Why some people believe so strongly in using small orgone generators in their homes cars and in their local communities.
The growing quagmire of microwave, elf, and electrical emf that we are constantly being exposed to is probably not very healthy. These portable devices are designed to absorb negative energy fields and convert them into positive life force energy.
Placing them near computers water heaters and for example copper plumbing in your home protects you from the constant bombardment of unnatural wave lengths that might cause your immune system to be weakend.
So to sum it up in this alternate science we have the traditional cloud buster (Reich) which very few people use or know how to properly. We have chembusters that ionize the friendly skies and then you have minature chi force generators. Each has a purpose and when used properly will not cause any negative consequences.
Thought I would edit this post and provide more info of a more positive note.
There are such things and remote viewing, remote healing and for those of us who concentrate on nature there is remote clearing as well.
Some call it magic that is ok but it does work and in my case I always try to means test what I am going to accomplish by asking myself is this for the greater good or for my own selfish reasons or agenda.
My personal belief is that if you stray to the later the negative karma impact could be quite profound so if you desire to engage in this kind of activity you might want to always keep it to the greater good.
Selfless acts of kindness to others without asking for anything in return is something we as a species need to engage in on a daily basis if we are to evolve in the fast approaching time of transition.
It is a free choice matrix so choose wisely!
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