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Free World Order
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Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:11 pm
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Yes, you make some really good points. I feel that what were cleaner but not pristine areas are now more degraded near local smaller commercial centres. In some cities and towns while central areas have better regeneration we still do have segregation. Where I live though we are not affected as much by this. Crime is higher but I am not afraid of that unless it got out of hand. Earlier this year mid year the government advised us to tackle criminals by defending ourself if we thought we were capable. I have to say it beats being kicked to death by youths. I don't think there is prejudice between us when we talk about these things. Some people do fear people that have been put into groups though - such as younger people all being criminals. I think a lot of them feel like outcasts than anything if we got to the root of it, that and being neglected by their families. I do not have anything against gated communities if it helps people feel safer, but looking at America crimes now thrive in those communities as well if we include drug addictions.
As funny as it may seem I feel that high class and low class is responsible for the cause of segregation along with poverty caused by the two extremes. If we all had equal money it would not help us because for one it would not work economically and two it would fail and fall back as it is now. In middle class towns that have an average income across all families I find there is better social integration. I could be wrong of course but it seems that way.
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/summary_0199-2268663_ITM
We have a diverse culture where I am but not an overwhelming amount of diversity. Including some Asians, few African but plenty of Jewish and Christian. I don't mean to group people but they are just common labels. Anyway each group has sub groups that are divided themselves. I think immigrations does add to some segregation but not always the case. We seem to have more segregation of classes and also when Asians take over whole cities 70%-90% of them making up the population in some towns and cities now. Which is a good example that these people are not all criminal at all, some are super high class areas where white people once lived. the quality of clean streets and buildings remained the same with low level of crime, but other cities with majority of white people in that has Asian communities seem to have higher crime rates. White trash may be to blame more for our crime problems than we admit.
I know things don't change if houses look better cosmetically but they soon show signs of degradation and dilapidation when poverty is mixed with crime.
I have to agree with my American friends that it is mostly white trash on social welfare causing crime and not Asian or Africans. I think when we have white and other ethnics mixed together it caused clashes and imbalances, not enough is done to prevent this. Not to say they do not dabble in similar crimes, I know they do here with cannabis factories with is considered a victimless crime. Just as not all groups are guilty or innocent. Either way most victimless petty criminals are in the overcrowding jails. I am not saying this needs to be made legal just what it is.
I may be wrong about the symptoms of who is to blame (the system?) but I think there are effective ways to combat crime and increase prosperity for all it means cutting poverty.
I think if I was born into poverty I would have a 80% likelihood of becoming a criminal. Sorry for the confusing post. Its not easy topic.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6333299.stm
quote: Hate crimes
The survey found the level of crime in the UK was decreasing - from a 1995 peak - but not as fast as in the rest of the EU.
It also found a high level of hate crimes, and a high risk of theft from cars and personal theft.
The UK was one of only three countries, along with the Republic of Ireland and Estonia, to be above the EU average for both pickpocketing and personal theft.
The study also found the UK had high rates of burglar alarms and special locks, that British people were not over-concerned about burglary or safety on the streets, and that they were reasonably happy with police performance.
quote: Across the EU, the survey found that the level of common crime had fallen significantly over the past 10 years.
However "crime hotspots" were identified as the UK, Irish Republic, Estonia, Netherlands and Denmark, which all had rates 30% higher than the European average.
If only they did better cross analysis to see what the causes were.
In the 1980's we went out and left our homes unlocked with no alarms at all....remember those days...just a matter of time for the UK to become identity theft crime capital of the world...well lets hope not. _________________ http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/PoliceState.html
Disclaimer: all my posts are thought crimes and only IMO in the police state we all live in...
http://www.europeantruth.co.uk/index1.html UK is history, USA to RESIST?
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raze78

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Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:07 pm
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FWO, ya know, in fairer societies, such as in scandinavia, their is very little of this kind of street problems. Why? you walk on the street and you can't tell the difference between rich and poor. The Taxi's are mostly new Mercedes Benz's.
But then again, the level of control their governments have on the individual is unbelievable.
So pick which, the semblance of freedom and chaos or peace and complete control.
I chose freedom anyday, even if some hoodies assault me. But blood, do they scare me. _________________ "Hikow mamtaqiym wkulow mahamadiym zeh dowdiy wzeh ree`iy bnowt yruushaalaaim."
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Free World Order
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Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:24 pm
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Yes, hehe. I know of a few in those countries. Never heard any complain about it though. Scandinavia and Switzerland being some of the few so called pristine places where people live. Well I'd rather be shot in the head than no freedom. _________________ http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/PoliceState.html
Disclaimer: all my posts are thought crimes and only IMO in the police state we all live in...
http://www.europeantruth.co.uk/index1.html UK is history, USA to RESIST?
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Tally27

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Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:21 pm
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White trash make up the most part of this area. You know, spending all the benefits they get paid for their 6 kids on scratchcards, junk food and cheap booze. Winds me up no end. |
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