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Unhappy Trails





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PostMon Aug 19, 2002 8:34 am  Reply with quote  

Bumping to present...I'd like to hear everyone's opinion of Will Thomas's work. I've heard good things and I've heard not so good things. I'd like to hear from you, what your impressions are. Thanks. U/T

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Lulu





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PostMon Aug 19, 2002 5:33 pm  Reply with quote  

I'd be interested to hear your opinion(s) U/T.


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chemical trails linger for hours, turning clear skies into milky haze in a process the U.S. Air Force calls “aerial obscuration”


The U. S. Air Force calls this process aerial abscuration? Really? I'd like to see the source for this statement as Art "it's all normal" Eggleton categorically denies such a claim ~

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"Your e-mail concerning condensation trails over Canada was forwarded to me by the Office of the Prime Minister.

I am advised that the phenomenon you describe is normal and that the Department of National Defence is not delivering any foreign substance int the atmosphere. Condensation trails are formed when water produced by the combustion of jet fuel cools very rapidly as it comes into contact with
cold air and, in effect, forms a cloud. Typically, condensation trails form at higher altitudes where the air is much colder. When the air is stable and there are no strong winds aloft, these vapour trails are persistent, and tend to spread slowly over a long period of time rather than dissipate rapidly.

Although United States military forces and Canadian Forces often conduct combined training, there is no activity called "aerial obscuration," nor is there any activity that resembles your concerns. All military activity is planned with the utmost safety in mind, especially for the civilians and the environment.

I hope the foregoing allays your concerns.

Sincerely,

Art Eggleton

MCU2001-03173A-H"



I have a problem with this statement:

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According to NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, contrails can only form at temperatures below minus 76 degrees, and humidity levels of 70 percent or more.

But atmospheric studies by NASA and NOAA - including TARFOX, ACE-Asia, ACE-I and II, INDOEX and Project SUCCESS - confirm that artificial clouds and contrails can be manufactured under conditions of low humidity by dispensing particles from aircraft.

Photographs of heavy aerial gridding over Santa Fe, New Mexico and B.C.’s Sunshine Coast also contradict official weather data showing high altitude humidity at the same times and locations to be less than one third the moisture needed for contrails to form.
INTERESTING!!!

I've seen trails persisting when RH readings at altitude should indicate the opposite--no persistence.

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Originally posted by Lulu:
Trails seen all day long persisting for hours, drifting S/E, yet I checked every altitude for RH using ADDS and no readings were above 40%, most below 30%. So therefore there is something in the atmosphere which causes trails to persit regardless of the RH readings, or they are CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!! Of course, further study is warranted...


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Originally posted by 3T3L1:
LULU, THAT'S HARD EVIDENCE!!!!! I checked the readings over Kelowna myself just to be sure you hadn't forgotten where you live, or maybe that you had read the ADDS maps wrong. So, if those weren't chemtrails, you Kanucks have somehow figured out how to make persistent contrails at low humidity.

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000876.html

BOLD emphasis mine.



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“The truth is there’s an entire program in the Department of Defense, ‘Vision for 2020,’ that’s developing these weapons,”


This idea doesn't seem that far-fetched to me.


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In Houston, Texas, Mark Steadham conducted a 62 day survey of jet traffic over that busy hub. Using a computer program called Flight Explorer, Steadham identified commercial and military aircraft sharing the same sky. The contrails from commercial jets dissipated within 22 seconds. The plumes left behind at the same time by big military jets persisted for four to eight hours.


Thermit's Trail Research Report says a lot...as does the grounding of commercial flights during 9-11 and the subsequent reporting of chemtrails during this time. Out of curiosity I would like to see Thermit's study/survey repeated and the results posted here.


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Caldeira believes the U.S. government will publicly admit to chemtrails this spring.


Personally I don't see this happening--ever.


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A scientist working at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base


And the name of this scientist would be?


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One involves creating clouds to cool global warming.


I've never bought into this 'claim' and I'm not about to now.


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Chemtrails are also being deployed by the Pentagon to suspend a mixture of barium stearate and fine iron particles as a temporary atmospheric antenna for conducting radio and radar waves over the horizon.


Seems logical to me.


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HAARP’s inventor Bernard Eastland told this reporter that the principal purpose of this multi-million watt weapon is to “steer the jet stream” and change the weather.


Funny thing that jet stream is...what is normal?
http://virga.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_pac_init_00.gif http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html http://www.stanford.edu/~dmiller/namjetstream_modelsml.html



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Unhappy Trails





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PostMon Aug 19, 2002 11:32 pm  Reply with quote  

I've bumped this because I am seeking information about this guy. I've been to his website a few times. I've learned a lot about the chemtrails through his website as well as Carnicoms and Chemtrail Central. I am still seeking answers. I have heard that he is losing his credibility. I have heard that he wants to do an in-situ sampling of a plume. I am also interested in doing that. I have no opinion as of yet, it's still too early in the game for me to give one. I do want a chemical analysis of a plume though in my area. If I were to finance such an endeavor....my question is....would this be the best person to hook up with?
I gather from your response Lulu that maybe he's not.

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Lulu





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PostMon Aug 19, 2002 11:35 pm  Reply with quote  

Why don't you hook up with Thermit, Unhappy Trails?
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Unhappy Trails





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PostMon Aug 19, 2002 11:42 pm  Reply with quote  

Tell me more Lulu, Thermit? What have you got in mind?
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