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blookanoo
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My thoughts on the election
 Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:12 pm
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Have you seen how pathetic the choices are for the next president of the USA?
Senator McCain is totally insane. Haunted by his POW nightmare and his own conscience, he has developed giant jaw muscles from clenching his teeth. He will simply push all the buttons in a giggling fit if he ever gets in.
If Hitlery wins she will rule with an iron wang. It will be a well ordered police state. Too bad the first women prez will be a Nazi psycho bitch.
Ghoulliani, the hideous vampire mobster, will be a debauched Caligula type, ever willing to do the NWO's bidding. He understands gang hierarchy.
That white man Obama is just too tame and boring.
Libs can't abide Ron Paul's anti-abortion stance so he'll never get enough support from the left. But if he does pose a threat he'll be killed. They'll shoot him or crash his plane. Just watch.
Kucinich seems like a good man but he's too wimpy to survive amongst those snakes and scorpions. I like him though. Him and Ron Paul together? Wow. America might just survive. But it'll never happen. It's already been decided who will be the next president. It'll probably be back to the ol' Clinton dynasty. But, who knows... |
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mr. jones
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Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:02 pm
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"there is a govt. inside the govt. and I don't control it" Bill Clinton.
what's up with that?
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perverted_introvert
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Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:22 pm
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If voting changed anything, it would be outlawed.
You can cast ballots all you want, but you will never pick your overlords.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College
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The United States Electoral College is a term used to describe the 538 President Electors who meet every 4 years to cast the electoral votes for President and Vice President of the United States; their votes represent the most important component of the presidential election.
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The nature of the process and its complication have been critiqued, with its detractors raising several alternative means of electing the president. This issue was revisited following the Presidential Election of 2000 when Democratic candidate Al Gore won the plurality of the national vote, but failed to win the majority of the Electoral College.
The electoral college SHOULD match the demographics which they represent, but they have no legal need to. Plain and simple, the elites will ALWAYS control who's running the show. I like how we're bringing "democracy" to the world....
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Free World Order
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Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:43 am
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quote:
Originally posted by mr. jones
"there is a govt. inside the govt. and I don't control it" Bill Clinton.
what's up with that?
Hahahah.
Do you need a permit to protest or to collect signatures for a petition? Even if we don't have a fascist leader we have laws that take away all freedom and industry to pollute us and the world. In some countries people get to vote on laws.
I just hope we are going to come through some New Age soon the elite cannot suppress or control us/this world by then. It sucks that we may never see a better world in our life time.
Can't more people just sue the government? Oh, no you have no human rights. I almost forgot about that. When we look at law though we barely have any right if any at all, even if there are human rights. Government has it all tied up so we cannot rule, they rule. Wrong way round...government is only needed there to do a few small things. No need for anything more. If we wanted we could have a government completely full of civilians and same for police. it would be like nothing we have now and so much better, much less corruption if any at all. Surprisingly most seems against it according to some polls. over 50% were...(you think government, military and police are civilians - they are not, they have their own laws and agenda and not interests of the population at all).
Yes they already decided who the new president is: true. Still worth a try though to give them a good fight IMO. Why bother doing anything if we think it is all futile. It wouldn't be if enough acted. They know this. But they could declare martial law then if they thought justice was about to happen.
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Disclaimer: all my posts are thought crimes and only IMO in the police state we all live in...
http://www.europeantruth.co.uk/index1.html UK is history, USA to RESIST?
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shatoga
Joined: 23 Nov 2002
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Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:50 pm
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1996, at a NY Democratic fund raiser
Reporter Helen Thomas asked Bill Clinton one of those "why don't you...." questions.
Reply: "You don't understand Helen.
"There is a government within the government, and I am not in charge."
(see Clinton's Executive Orders below to understand context)
quote:
Originally posted by blookanoo
Have you seen how pathetic the choices are for the next president of the USA?
Senator McCain is totally insane. Haunted by his POW nightmare and his own conscience, he has developed giant jaw muscles from clenching his teeth. He will simply push all the buttons in a giggling fit if he ever gets in.
If Hitlery wins she will rule with an iron wang. It will be a well ordered police state. Too bad the first women prez will be a Nazi psycho bitch.
Ghoulliani, the hideous vampire mobster, will be a debauched Caligula type, ever willing to do the NWO's bidding. He understands gang hierarchy.
That white man Obama is just too tame and boring.
Libs can't abide Ron Paul's anti-abortion stance so he'll never get enough support from the left. But if he does pose a threat he'll be killed. They'll shoot him or crash his plane. Just watch.
Kucinich seems like a good man but he's too wimpy to survive amongst those snakes and scorpions. I like him though. Him and Ron Paul together? Wow. America might just survive. But it'll never happen. It's already been decided who will be the next president. It'll probably be back to the ol' Clinton dynasty. But, who knows...
--Guilliani had the debris of the WTC removed to a dump in Jersey before any Cops or Fire Investigators could examine the evidence and determine exactly what did happen there on 9/11.
That was a felony Obstruction of Justice.
---Most black civil rights leaders support Hillary because Obama is both unelectable, and they don't trust him.
-Ron Paul, to peel off Constitutionalists from backing another candidate. - -Obama, to peel off blacks from backing another candidate.
Both fit the advice the RNC takes from one of their' own NWO prophets:
quote:
"The best way to handle the opposition is to control it ourselves." VI Lenin
--McCain, when he was first running for Senate.
Said 'those POW's who broke and read propaganda statements, proved,
by so doing, that they were alive'.
They, and those photographed by Jane Fonda, during her Hanoi visit,
were listed as "alive"
and thus got returned home when Nixon signed the Paris deal.
Those 860+ POWs who were not documented as "alive" did not come home as heroes.
I like John McCain for telling that truth, but I always think of the movie "Manchurian Candidate" when his name comes up.
I sincerely hope there is no link between the movie and real life.
Hillary as a "nazi psycho bitch"?
Rule with an iron wang?
The NRA warned "Clinton will take away your guns"
Like most NRA members I bought more guns during Clinton's term.
Many states passed Concealed Carry legislation and we ended up with more gun rights at the end of eight Clinton years than before.
Talking point from the RNC advises to always blame Clinton for the Assault Weapons Ban, because the cosmetic portions of it were extended by Bill Clinton. (bipods, folding stocks, bayonet lugs)
RNC advises media to not mention it was Reagan who ordered the BATF to outlaw home defense shotguns
("alley sweepers: large magazine, folding stock, etc.)
nor to mention it was George HW Bush who signed the Assault Weapons ban.
History shows the NRA was lying about "Hillary showing up at our doors with Jack Booted Storm Troopers" (Wayne LaPierre's words)
Think about...
Why would a NWO controlled media attack Bill and Hillary, if they were the NWO.
Why didn't the media that ranted about how Mr Bill wanted to take away our freedoms, get excited when
George W Bush did sign the usapatriot act that suspended our Constitution and Bill of Rights?
How does kneejerk hatred of liberals explain why a Republican dominated One Party Rule government made America a "legal" dictatorship?
The extreme court
-had refused to let Clinton have even the Line Item Veto,
--didn't allow Slick legal authority to fight against a spendthrift R dominated Congress,
--(yet) still allows the Bush administration to spy on ALL phone calls, internet communication, and keeps track of even our book buying and library borrowing.
---(yet) still allows thousands of people to rot in prison without even a chance to call a lawyer.
Question:
How do you blame Hillary for the current rightwing police state?
Here are links to the Executive Orders Clinton issued, trying to make the government obey the Constitution:
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html
(actual documents, not propaganda)
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/clinton-subjects.html
Federalism: EO 13083; EO 13095; EO 13132
(a) There should be strict adherence to constitutional principles.
(changed the wording after Waco, when he found the professionals he'd inherited from Reagan and Bush were often more thugs than cops)
EO 13132
(a) There shall be strict adherence to constitutional principles.
Only one President in the past century that supported our Constitution, and the NWO media hounded him from the day he declared he was a candidate. Now the NWO media hounds Hillary.
If there were really no difference between the two sides... why would the RNC spend a hundred million every 4 years to keep a (R) in the White House...
if there is reallly no difference....
But there has never been a greater difference!
Take the votes on the act to suspend our Constitution and Bill of Rights:
Note: H.R. 3162, the USA PATRIOT Act, passed the House on 10/12/2001; and S. 1510, which passed the Senate on 10/11/2001.
H.R.3162 Became Public Law No: 107-56
[GPO: Text, PDF]
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ056.107
On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll398.xml
Republican: yeas 211, nays 3 not voting 5
Democratic: yeas 145, nays 62 not voting 4
A 356-65 margin of victory for the police state
But, on renewal, more politicians stood up on their hind legs and said "NO!" to the police state:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/22/politics/main710879.shtml
(CBS/AP) The House voted to extend indefinitely the anti-terrorist USA Patriot Act,
By a 257-171 margin, lawmakers who earlier Thursday had watched reports of attempted terrorist bombings in London, agreed to renew key provisions of the Patriot Act that were set to expire at the end of this year.
Forty-three Democrats joined 214 Republicans in passing the bill, which dropped 14 of 16 expiration dates on provisions initially drafted into the law shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
Differences shown by these votes?
One party learned from their mistake, the other increased thier support for "the Conservative Vision" : a police state.
2001 Republicans': yeas 211, increased to 214 by 2005 = increased support for the police state
2001 Democratic: yeas 145, decreased to 43 by 2005 = stronger opposition to the police state
"Just the facts m'aam." |
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PAK
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Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:36 am
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The Clintons and Bush's work for the same international banksters. They play the left against the right, always bringing in more and more totalitarian government, slowly but surely. The bankers fund them both. Bush Sr. and Clinton have their "foundation" to help the poor unfortunate victims of disastor - wonder where the money went.
William Jefferson Clinton quote:
"You can't say you love your country and hate your government." - Bill Clinton, 1995 (After the OKC bombing)
"You know the one thing that's wrong with this country? Everyone gets a chance to have their fair say."
President William Clinton addressing the people of Philadelphia, May 28, 1993 in the Courtyard, City Hall, Philadelphia, PA.
"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans to legitimately own handguns and rifles"
March 1, 1993, Remarks by the President In Discussion With National Service Volunteers, Learning Center New Brunswick, New Jersey
"The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people."
May 28, 1993 - from a speech at Philadelphia city hall
"I heard that call clarified by a professor I had named Carroll Quigley"
Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University history professor (deceased), in Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, 1966, made this claim:
"There does exist and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for 20 years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret record.
"In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups.''
pp. 950 and 324
Carroll Quigley was the historian for the Council for Foreign Relations and the Royal Institute of International Affairs - he had access to their secret historical meetings. He recommended Clinton to the Rhodes Scholars.
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blookanoo
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Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:23 am
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Seems like a lot of people are thinking about the can'tdidates.
http://www.rense.com/general79/opne.htm
Ron Paul and the seven dwarfs...that's a good one. |
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shatoga
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Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:46 pm
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Not to argue, but to express that my opinion is different, and why.
Ron Paul
quote:
Originally posted by PAK
Libs can't abide Ron Paul's anti-abortion stance
I've actually talked to and listened to Liberals.
What they cannot abide is anyone trying to impose their' religious beliefs on everyone else in violation of the 1st Amendment.
They believe "Freedom OF Religion'' must include ''Freedom to not have someone else's religious beliefs crammed down your throat by government.''
What so called "anti abortionists" are really against is allowing any woman to obey the law and be guided by her own religious beliefs.
quote:
Originally posted by PAK
The Clintons and Bush's work for the same international banksters. .
We are ALL owned by those same international banksters. Our mortgages, car loans ultimately are paid to them. Our taxes go to them.
Chavez of Venezuela is challenging the IMF (international monetary fund) and the US government is trying another coup to stop Venezuelan democracy reducing the profits of those same international banksters.
Clinton DID issue Executive Orders to the Executive Branch in a vain attempt to get them to obey the Constitution.
I already posted the links to the actual government documents.
Bush DID suspend our Constitution and entire Bill of Rights when he signed and implemented the misnamed patriot act.
About those quotes:
I never claimed Slick was perfect.
IMHO he took the education the NWO gave him (Rhodes scholarship) and then stabbed the NWO in the back by trying to restore Constitutional government to the USA.
So far, Clinton haters' have either quoted out of context or made up many statements attributed to Bill Clinton. Fallwell's Clinton Chronicles for example blamed Clinton for every crime committed within 50 miles of his location and also blamed him when his friends were murdered.
eg: Vince Foster.
Murdered to break the link between Governor Clinton and Pres Bush, regards Mena airport Iran Contra drug imports. Which allowed RNC surrogates' to continue accusing Clinton;
Killing Foster broke the link to Bush (the first)
Without Foster alive to testify to the call the Gov had gotten from the Pres ordering the guv to call off the ABI (state) investigation of Mena because it was "National Security".
source document introduced in Oliver North's Iran Contra (televised) hearing referred to Atty Foster who had warned Reagan/Bush that they were committing a felony by violating the Boland Amendment.
Document seized by FBI warrent served on North's NSA office files. Have to reread my copy of "Taking The Stand" (complete transcripts of Olliver North's testimony before the select committee of the House and Senate) to provide a page reference.
Everyone has a right to believe whatever they want.
"You can't say you love your country and hate your government." - Bill Clinton, 1995 (After the OKC bombing)
Treason is defined in our Constitution:
US Constitution, Article III Section 3 Clause 1:
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
Bombing a federal building IS treason by that definition.
BTW, despite propaganda from the rightwing, Clinton did have a job other than in politics:
Bill Clinton taught the Constitution in college before entering politics.
George W Bush looking at www.GWBush.com in 2000:
"There oughta be limits to free speech." Bush imposed those limits with the patriot act.
Clinton just groused about the oughtright lies from repubs but imposed no new limits.
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