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Ellyn
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Disinformation and Conspiracies
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http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd336.htm
DISINFORMATION AND CONSPIRACIES
By: Devvy
January 14, 2008
© 2008 - NewsWithViews.com
Presidential hopeful, Congressman Ron Paul, issued a statement on January 12, 2008 stating the reasons he will not pursue a recount of the votes cast in the New Hampshire primary. His statement is here. My email box is full of angry responses from Ron Paul supporters. There is going to be a recount which begins January 16, 2008. This is a grass roots recount effort started by the 'Granny Warriors,' and funded by Americans who do not believe we have accurate elections counts. Only the candidate can request the recount. Dr. Paul's top advisers have assured him the count was accurate, therefore he should not challenge it. The Granny Warriors, approached another GOP candidate, Albert Howard, who has filed and paid the initial fees for the recount. Democratic hopeful, Dennis Kucinich, has also indicated he is requesting a recount.
As someone who has been on the vote fraud issue since 1993, I fully support this recount and have made a donation to the fund. I hope you will also support it with a donation that's comfortable for your budget. Let me say a couple of things here:
1. Someone is out to hurt this effort by spreading around via the Internet, that this recount by the Granny Warriors is a scam because "they know the costs up front." They do? Even the Secretary of State's office isn't sure: "The Secretary of State's office could not immediately provide an estimate of how much the recounts would cost or how long they would take, though it could possibly be weeks." The Granny Warriors are up front about everything they do and are real American patriots.
2. There are pitfalls regarding a recount, i.e., chain of custody of the ballots for one thing. Bev Harris (Black Box Voting) outlines a number of them here, i.e., "Ballot Chain of Custody War Stories: "Patriot Richard Hayes Phillips, while writing his brilliant upcoming book "Witness to a Crime," uncovered evidence that an Ohio County took delivery on 10,000 off-the-books ballots in 2004."
3. The integrity of the Office of Secretary of State for New Hampshire is now in the spotlight, one I'm certain they wish would go away. Their goal will be to come out with a vote count that matches last week's. It will be up to Mr. Howard and trust worthy people involved with the recount to see there are no shenanigans.
I believe the Granny Warriors will do everything in their power to follow good advice from people like Ms. Harris who have been in the trenches. This is a serious effort that means the difference between having fair and impartial elections or the fraud continues. You can find out more about these dedicated Americans at their web site here. Without question, they are going to need help on the ground in New Hampshire, but they also have to be very careful about trust issues and sabotage.
As for Ron Paul's statement, it is a very carefully worded production. I'm not making excuses, but having run for Congress, I know what it's like and what a candidate goes through, never mind at the presidential level. There isn't a minute in your 16-hour days that isn't filled. The candidate relies on his/her senior staff to handle major problems and then brief him/her. No doubt in Dr. Paul's case, his upper level people had their polling and election people look at numbers every which way from Sunday and decided the vote was accurate. They pass this along to Dr. Paul who has now gone from primary night (Tuesday) down to South Carolina in time for the GOP debate on Thursday night without skipping a beat.
Congressman Paul states, "My campaign staff and I have analyzed the numbers in New Hampshire and I have reached the conclusion that it was the high turnout -- not vote fraud or counting errors -- that left us with eight percent of the vote." So, he believes his staff has done due diligence, even though the 31 vote "error" for Sutton, New Hampshire, is not mentioned in this polished piece of word smithing. The text about vote tallying and "watching," is all well and fine, but millions of us know it's what happens inside the machines. If you haven't seen it yet, please do take 10 minutes to watch this voting counting machine during a test where 6 no votes and 2 yes votes are fed into it. The demonstrator confidently hits the button to get the vote tally. The results: 7 yes and 1 no. Additionally, one might want to click here and look at this hand recount because it clearly shows there is a serious problem with the vote count and that's why I support the efforts of the Granny Warriors.
I believe that Ron Paul believes his advisers. You can agree or disagree. Many of you have written to express your disappointment. You're not alone. Tomorrow is Michigan and more machines; I'll be watching from my hotel room. I have no doubt there will be lots of precinct "watchers" and exit polling going on, but the only thing that counts in the end is a true count of the votes which is determined internally with machines. That will not happen with any flavor of machines being used in Michigan despite assurances from the state. Also, please understand that I cannot answer thousands of emails per week; I have no staff. The best way to keep up to date on the recount effort is to check in here as the process goes forward to conclusion. We the people should not have to go through this, but unless we stop the vote fraud it will continue to put the wrong people in office.
Disinformation
Back on December 2, 1999, I wrote a column titled, 'Conspiracy addicts and the little boy who cried wolf.' I hope you'll read it because the problem only continues to escalate, wasting people's precious time and resources on unverified information. The date of that column is important because Y2K was the big scare people to death event thanks to the deliberate hype by a lot of people writing books. Some took it so seriously, it turned into a very bad situation and I'm talking about two guys here, Kevin Ray Patterson and Charles Dennis Kiles. These gents were so convinced Y2K was it, they decided the best way to combat the complete collapse of this country would be to blow up a couple of 12,000 gallon propane tanks located in a residential area about 30 minutes from my former home in Sacramento.
Patriots immediately came to their defense, so I went down to the federal court house, copied the arrest warrants and affidavits and all the paperwork available. These two geniuses got themselves into deep trouble and in the end, their own words on tape from undercover federal agents is what got them convicted. I wrote about their trial and what they were planning was wrong. Had they blown those propane tanks, it's no telling how many innocent people would have been killed or maimed - people who have nothing to do with the UN, the central bank or passing laws.
On January 2, 2008, my mail box filled up with a hundred of this: Henry Paulson has died after being shot in the chest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Henry M. Paulson, the Secretary of the United States Treasury, died today from gunshot wounds suffered as described in this report. The State Department have confirmed this to sources in touch with this service. We do not know, and it may never be known, whether Paulson was shot dead 'in the course of duty' given that he had continually committed gross treason in time of war and had repeatedly (we are informed) been warned of the consequences if he did not cease and desist.
"We have received separate confirmations from military sources that the figure of 127 stated below for the number of 'targets' in the United States (excluding Europe) is ACCURATE. We have also just learned that the fire at the Bush Family property in Odessa, Texas, was associated with a further Special Forces operation to retrieve Bush Family documents hidden there...Informed sources state authoritatively that the official intention is to claim that Paulson died of a heart attack. The way that he died has been verified by intelligence, official, diplomatic, military and personal sources. A separate source close to the Paulson family has also confirmed that Paulson died on 2nd January and that the cause was precisely as stated in this report and Updates..."
Odessa is 50 miles from where I live. The fire damaged this junker, but no signs of special forces on location! I have taken the trouble to "look up" Mockingbird, just as I have taken the trouble to read hundreds of books and millions of words on the grand planning of the Masters of the Game and their diabolical schemes over the past 18 years. This garbage email refers me to this web site where I can get the truth!!!! Does anyone really believe that the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury would be shot and killed and not a single media source covers it? Let's check Paulson's official schedule available at the time of his death:
Treasury Secretary Paulson to Deliver Speech on Capital Markets and Economy
Washington, DC -- Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson, Jr. will deliver a speech on Monday in New York City at an event hosted by the New York Society of Security Analysts. He will discuss the recent developments in the capital markets and their impact on the economy.
* What: Speech on Capital Markets and the Economy
* When: 2:00 p.m. (EST) Monday, January 7
* Where: New York City - Location TBA
* Note: Media interested in attending should RSVP to press@nyssa.org.
I waited until January 7th and called his office. I was told he was out of town for a speech and would I like to speak with the media folks for the location? I followed up; click here to read about this dead man's speech on January 7, five days after his "confirmed" death. People actually believed this trash. Sending out this type of nonsense ruins your credibility. Investigative journalists get lots of requests and tips for a story, but sending out this kind of baloney will get a valid inquiry deleted because of past junk filling our mail boxes....sort of like the little boy who cried wolf.
Real conspiracies
Anyone who doesn't live in la-la land knows there are real conspiracies and one of them is the silencing of courageous Americans like Sybil Edmonds, an FBI whistle blower who has been threatened unless she remains silent about what she knows regarding 911.. Her web site is here. Ms. Edmonds isn't the only one who wants the American people to know the truth, but they under threat of losing their freedom if they talk. We the people have the right to know what she does, yet not one single "mainstream" media outlet including cable networks will touch her story. This woman is willing to risk what most people wouldn't even dream of because she believes the truth has not been told about 911. Earlier this month, she approached the Sunday Times (London) because of being gagged by the Bush Administration here in America. You should read the comprehensive coverage here.
What about Osama Bid Laden - dead or alive? This short video clip (3:16 seconds) is an interview of the late Benazir Bhutto by Sir David Frost. Notice how casually 2:58 seconds into the clip she names the man "who murdered Bin Laden." Mrs. Bhutto spoke this sentence as if it's something everyone already knows. Keeping Bin Laden alive has always been worth more politically for Bush to continue selling his endless wars based on mountains of lies, but I believe Bin Laden is dead and has been for years. Those involved in keeping this from the American people and the world are involved in a conspiracy. Oh, those tapes of Bin Laden? Not even good propaganda work with such high tech resources available. I especially like the one where he's chubby with the boxer's nose. Clever.
Higher ups in the Bush Administration (FBI and others) have conspired to keep the truth from the American people asking reasonable questions about 911 and the pathetic racket operating as the "mainstream media" in this country are co-conspirators for not pursuing valid areas where the government's version of events do not match credible research. The gagging of individuals like Sybil Edmonds who has the truth is criminal and reprehensible.
A new set of DVDs has come out from Pilotsfor911truth.org that I highly recommend because I have watched them: "Chapter Two of the Pandora's Black Box Series produced and supported by Professional Pilots. This feature film follows the flight as it happens in real time throughout the Air Traffic Control System on September 11, 2001. Analysis includes The Flight Data Recorder, The money and cover-up, Air Traffic Control and Radar, NORAD response and the shocking conflicts/possibilities based on information provided by the US Government."
These DVDs cover data received under Freedom of Information Act requests. Based on the flight recorders and other solid documentation, computer simulations prove Flight 77 could not have hit the Pentagon and so much more. The individuals you will see and hear on these DVDs aren't a bunch of armchair conspiracy theorists, they are professional pilots, aviation experts and others in their field who know the Bush Administration has lied and continues to lie about what really happened that day. The material and analysis on these DVDs is critical, so I hope you'll get them and share with others. It is our duty, our obligation to fight for the truth about what really happened that day and yes, it is a conspiracy.
I'll be on the road beginning tomorrow for about two weeks and with such a tight schedule, I'm not certain I will be doing any columns. HOWEVER: what should we all be doing this week and for however long it takes? I called Rep. Virgil Goode's office last week. Both of his bills are still active to stop the NAU and the get us out of the destructive NAFTA treaty; see this web site. We must continue hammering on Congress to get these bills out of committee and brought to a vote. It is critical. Our survival depends on it. Please keep calling your congress critter and demand a yes vote on these two bills. This is a highest priority. Check the aforementioned site. If your state has not passed legislation to refuse to participate in this NAU - get on the phone to your state rep and senator. Many of the states are only in session 120 days. Time is of the essence to stop the NAU and the NAFTA Super Highway to Hell.
Tonight I'm speaking about the NAU/SPP at Howard College, Big Spring, Texas; doors open at 6:30 pm. Flyer is here with details.
Important links:
1 - There is no real Social Security trust fund
2 - Tax free tip act introduced
3 - Skousen - Election Manipulation In Full Swing
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Devvy Kidd authored the booklets, Why A Bankrupt America and Blind Loyalty; 2 million copies sold. Devvy appears on radio shows all over the country, ran for Congress and is a highly sought after public speaker. Devvy belongs to no organization.
She left the Republican Party in 1996 and has been an independent voter ever since. Devvy isn't left, right or in the middle; she is a constitutionalist who believes in the supreme law of the land, not some political party. Her web site (www.devvy.com) contains a tremendous amount of information, solutions and a vast Reading Room.
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perverted_introvert
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Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:57 am
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fascist much?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsWithViews.com
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NewsWithViews.com is a far-right American website with advertisement, news analysis, and opinion articles. It is based in Merlin, Oregon. It has well-known politicians for columnists. It has a Christian right and anti-government political orientation.
Is this a trustworthy source, Ellyn?
You also quote the intergalactic brotherhood, NESARA, and a variety of other scams. These two views are irreconcilable. Tell me, do you believe in the bible or messages from matthew? Either way you answer, half of your posts are discredited.
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Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:16 pm
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quote:
there is a govt. inside the govt. and I don´t control it
Bill Clinton.
It doesn´t matter who wins, they´re just there for the photo op.
Let´s stay focused my friends, it´s all about chemtrails. Everything else is secondary.
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perverted_introvert
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Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:12 am
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I disagree. It is all about chemtrails, but there's a lot to be learned here from the distraction techniques used by various posters.
You're right to assert that we need to remain focused, but we also need to be aware of who is in our midst. It's time for logic and critical thinking.
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Ellyn
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| Devvy Kidd's articles on chemtrails from News With Views
Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:04 am
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Although this is the “Conspiracy” forum where threads concerning conspiracies are posted, it might be of interest to note that Devvy Kidd, the author of the above thread: "Disinformation and Conspiracies," originally written for News With Views, also wrote the following two articles concerning chemtrails for News With Views as well. Both of these articles were posted in the "Chemtrail" forum at the time they were written.
CHEMTRAILS NEWS ITEM: MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE
By: Devvy
December 25, 2004
NewsWithViews.com
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd84.htm
AEROSOL SPRAYING WILL KILL POLITICIANS, TOO
By: Devvy
April 16, 2007
NewsWithViews.com
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd263.htm |
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stitcherman
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Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:11 pm
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The television is truly amazing 
Last nights "programming";Charlie gibsons half hour could have been written right from Alan Watt's perspective.
You are bad for owning a big house, sell your big house, move to the cities. Live on less.
Who the hell are you suppose to sell your big house to 
Cars that run on air will be here shortly.
The technology to save you is right around this next corner. See  This won't last long.
They ussually pedal the worship of the traditional american success image, but what I saw was the total opposite. A subconcious message of contempt being downloaded to america, of big homes and big cars. "they" really want to get us fighting amongst ourselves.
And the mention of UFO sightings.
And then there was some Glen Beck
He is doing a series on the end times.
He sure is speaking a lot of truth inside his made up world  .
What's with that
I guess when a country is takin' it, there is no satisfaction unless they know who is stickin' it to them, or that they are even being had.
Truly amazing times we are living in; if you are awake to see it.
And the worst is yet to come.
http://www.barefootsworld.net/constit1.html
"A popular government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy, or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives." -- James Madison letter to W. T. Barry, August 4, 1822
". . . that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God." -- Thomas Jefferson's Last Letter, June 24, 1826
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PAK
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I saw some of that Stitcherman last night cause my husband always watches the news. It was unreal and Charlie looks so sincere when he stares into the camera. I try to stay away from the TV as much as possible, except for movies. Now our local TV stations are hitting us hard with "Greening" of America. It is unbelievable propaganda at it's best or worst depending on one's view. One show was showing how this young couple was being so efficient with their lawn, the size of a postage stamp, they were composting and using a non motorized grass cutter. But, hey, they were going "green". As cost of basics soar, food, gas, water, housing, etc., it is going to start turning people against each other.
Occasionally one of our local weathermen will let a little out of the bag by claiming that the jet stream is just acting in an unusual manor. Must be global warming.
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stitcherman
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Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:44 pm
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And his .."Hope you had the best of day, and a very good night"
The sincerity is so over the top
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PAK
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:10 am
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News with Views has a lot of good articles and information. All sites to some extent have been infiltrated but that doesn't mean all the information is suspect. You must use your own judgment and I suggest read older books by the movers and shakers of our world. They have written in the past about culling back the population, about having to establish the rule of law, in their favor of course, because they are of asuperior stock to the bulk of the population. It is often difficult to comprehend the lengths that the Elite have gone to in order to dominate and control others. It is their nature. We suspend our disbelief because it is difficult for us to walk in their shoes and understand their mindset. Americans particularly live in fantasy land, we grew up with fairy tales, where the good guy wins in the end, or we "think" the good guy has won but we really didn't understand the esoteric meaning of the story - we only took it on face value, viewing it from our own perspective. Once you start to view situations, stories, and books from a different angle, you start to realize we've all been had, that good and evil are just judgment calls in the Elites point of view. Like Clinton stated, it depends upon what the meaning of is is.
I may not agree with Ellyn's posts on the Intergalactic brotherhood nonsense, NESARA, as I have investigated it thoroughly and discovered its connection to the Lucis Trust, which is the spiritual arm of the UN. It's all the same old rehash of the ascended masters, those enlightened and waiting in the wings to save humanity from itself, only it's just the Elite neverending story of creating a Utopia for themselves.
At the same time, even though I may disagree with the NESARA thing, I do believe Ellyn has put up some very good posts and information.
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