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Human-Animal Hybrid Embryos now Approved

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Human-Animal Hybrid Embryos now Approved PostWed Jan 23, 2008 9:42 pm  Reply with quote  

Of course, this is RE-Search because they've already been doing this stuff illegally, now they can do it legally. All for your benefit. The Human Race is at a race to the finish line - can't wait to see the newman to come.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7193820.stm

Green light for hybrid research
Regulators in the UK have given scientists the green light to create human-animal embryos for research.
The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority granted permission after a consultation showed the public were "at ease" with the idea.

Experts said it was vital for research into life-threatening diseases.

Two centres, King's College London and Newcastle University, will now be able to begin their work under one-year research licences.

Any other centres wishing to do similar work will have to apply to the HFEA for permission, which will make a decision on a case-by-case basis.

Hybrids

Scientists want to create hybrid embryos by merging human cells with animal eggs in a bid to extract stem cells. The embryos would then be destroyed within 14 days.

The cells form the basic building blocks of the body and have the potential to become any tissue, making them essential for research.

At the moment, scientists have to rely on human eggs left over from fertility treatment, but they are in short supply and are not always good quality.

Critics say they are repulsed by the idea and there must be no creation of an animal-human hybrid.

They say it is tampering with nature and is unethical. Some believe the research is also scientifically unnecessary.

It is already illegal to implant human-animal embryos in the womb or bring them to term.

Go-ahead

Dr Stephen Minger and colleagues at King's College London want to create hybrids to study diseases known to have genetic causes - such as Alzheimer's disease, spinal muscular atrophy and Parkinson's disease.

And Lyle Armstrong's team at Newcastle University are hoping to use the technique to help understand how stem cells develop into different tissues in the body.

In the distant future this information may enable scientists to grow new tissues in the laboratory.

Dr Armstrong said: "Now that we have the licence we can start work as soon as possible.

"We have already done a lot of the work by transferring animal cells into cow eggs so we hope to make rapid progress."

John Smeaton, national director of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children (SPUC), said: "The HFEA decision represents a disastrous setback for human dignity in Britain.

"The deliberate blurring of the boundaries between humans and other species is wrong and strikes at the heart of what makes us human."

Dr Peter Saunders of Christian Medical Fellowship said: "Many scientists now regard using animal-human hybrids for stem cell research as a scientific blind alley.

"As well as being unethical they are simply unnecessary."

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/health/7193820.stm

Published: 2008/01/17 12:09:57 GMT

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And when man crosses animal with man, you will know that the end is near.
Profecy.
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Organ Transplants from Animals PostFri Jan 25, 2008 2:11 am  Reply with quote  

http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/596_xeno.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenotransplantation

Xenotransplantation (xeno- from the Greek meaning "foreign") is the transplantation of living cells, tissues or organs from one species to another such as from pigs to humans (see Medical grafting).

That can't be Kosher. Can it?

Similarly, while some individual Jews may not wish to receive a pig valve based on their personal beliefs, the rabbinical view is that the use of pig valves in humans is not a violation of kashruth law.[1] In fact, killing a pig in order to save a human life is a requirement in the Jewish faith, under the laws of pikuach nefesh.


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A worrisome element of xenotransplantation is the potential for infectious disease to spread from the donor animal, which is called xenozoonosis. One example is porcine endogenous retroviruses (PERVs) which are viruses within pigs that pigs are immune to, but can infect humans. Some recipients of pig neural cell transplants have had to agree to never donate blood, take frequent blood tests and use safe sex methods for the rest of their lives due to the risk of spreading such viruses. However, the patients who have received these pig cell transplants have yet to show any PERV-type infection. The situation with other animals is currently unknown.


I blame the pervs.
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:P PostFri Jan 25, 2008 10:20 am  Reply with quote  

Terrible thing, pervs.
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PostFri Jan 25, 2008 6:59 pm  Reply with quote  

it´s interesting how religious clerics will find an escape clause to any type of abomination.

They (the vatican) did it in the middle ages. that´s why luther protested. Get this, according to the vatican if you raped a teenage girl your sin could be forgiven for a certain amount of money (given to the vatican cleric of course), this is how the vatican ammased immense wealth.

Luther protested and put a Poster on the door to his church saying he would not abide to the church´s rules of forgiveness for such and other sins.
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PostSun Jan 27, 2008 1:55 am  Reply with quote  

Wow, no surprise then, at all.

The UK is responsible for so much maddness/evilness around the world than would be expected at first. The best important thing though is that people know/or think they cannot do anything about it, while the majority have no clue even though it is in the mainstream media. At the same time though 95% of world population allow the world to be the way it is (every daily action counts, call it life style, routine, chores, what you like - unless the little people really have no power and never did have - always have been slaves and still are.) May want to exclude 3.2 billion more or less that live in poverty.

I can believe it mr.jones, after all it is the government that had slaves worshipping them and thousands of multiple gods - to then only one god. Behind it all. Only have to look at history and archaeological science.
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Hybrids PostSun Jan 27, 2008 2:03 am  Reply with quote  

Pak:

Maybe we should start resurrecting our old threads about mythical hybrids. We had a lot of great discussions about Minotaurs, Mermaids, etc. I do believe humanity has lost technology over time, but we are also gaining it back rather quickly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mythological_hybrids

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minotaur

In Greek mythology, the Minotaur (Greek: Μῑνώταυρος, Mīnṓtauros) was a creature that was part man and part bull.[1] It dwelt at the center of the Labyrinth, which was an elaborate maze-like construction built for King Minos of Crete and designed by the architect Daedalus and his son Icarus who were ordered to build it to hold the Minotaur. The historical site of Knossos is usually identified as the site of the labyrinth. The Minotaur was eventually killed by Theseus.

After he ascended the throne of Crete, Minos struggled with his brothers for the right to rule. Minos prayed to Poseidon to send him a snow-white bull, as a sign of approval. He was to sacrifice the bull in honor of Poseidon but decided to keep it instead. To punish Minos Poseidon caused Pasiphaë, Minos' wife, to fall madly in love with the bull from the sea. She had Daedalus, the famous architect, make a wooden cow for her. Pasiphaë climbed into the decoy to seduce the white bull. The offspring of their unnatural lovemaking was a monster called the Minotaur.

Myth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knossos

The palace is about 130 meters on a side and since the Roman period has been suggested as the source of the myth of the Labyrinth, an elaborate mazelike structure constructed for King Minos of Crete and designed by the legendary artificer Daedalus to hold the Minotaur, a creature that was half man and half bull and was eventually killed by the Athenian hero Theseus.

Labyrinth comes from the word labrys, referring to a double, or two-bladed, axe. Its representation had a religious and probably magical significance. It was used throughout the Mycenaean world as an apotropaic symbol; that is, the presence of the symbol on an object would prevent it from being "killed." Axe motifs were scratched on many of the stones of the palace. It appears in pottery decoration and is a theme of the Shrine of the Double Axes at the palace, as well as of many shrines throughout Crete and the Aegean. The etymology of the name is not known; it is probably not Greek. The form labyr-inthos uses a suffix generally considered to be pre-Greek.

The location of the labyrinth of legend has long been a question for Minoan studies. It might have been the name of the palace or of some portion of the palace. Throughout most of the 20th century the intimations of human sacrifice in the myth puzzled Bronze Age scholars, because evidence for human sacrifice on Crete had never been discovered and so it was vigorously denied. The practice was finally verified archaeologically (see under Minoan civilization). It is possible that the palace was a great sacrificial center and could have been named the Labyrinth. Its layout certainly is labyrinthine, in the sense of intricate and confusing.
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PostSun Jan 27, 2008 2:07 am  Reply with quote  

Hey PI, would be interesting for me and others I hope if you do get back into that with PAK. Some scientists - archaelogical ones specialise in these areas of ancient technologies - tech that we now have or similar ones, they believe existed thousands of years ago.
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OOPARTS PostSun Jan 27, 2008 2:12 am  Reply with quote  

Free:

This may be a good place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-place_artifact

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensington_Runestone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecaxic-Calixtlahuaca_head

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gympie_Pyramid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saqqara_Bird

There are SO many more, I could get bogged down for ages. Here's my favorite:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Battery

The artifacts consist of ~130mm (~5 inch) tall terracotta jars (with a one and a half inch mouth) containing a copper cylinder made of a rolled-up copper sheet, which houses a single iron rod. At the top, the iron rod is isolated from the copper by asphalt plugs or stoppers, and both rod and cylinder fit snugly inside the opening of the jar which bulges outward towards the middle (reverse hourglass shape). The copper cylinder is not watertight, so when the jar was filled with a liquid, this would surround the iron rod as well. The artifact had been exposed to the weather and had suffered corrosion, although mild given the presence of an electrochemical couple. This has led some scholars to believe lemon juice, grape juice, or vinegar was used as an acidic agent to jumpstart the electrochemical reaction with the two metals.
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PostSun Jan 27, 2008 2:18 am  Reply with quote  

Thanks for the links. Will look them over.

The battery one is funny. I remember a bit about this going back some years.
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Chemtrails are ra-el, minotaurs are not, unless they are PostSun Jan 27, 2008 6:00 pm  Reply with quote  

Yes PI and Pak, please bring back the minotaurs, then we can all see what paid disinfo trolls you are! This is a chemtrail forum, you must discuss chemtrails exclusively at all times or risk being tortured and shot like the treacherous tinfoil scum you have most certainly revealed yourselves to be!

(I'm kidding, but I think you all know who and what I'm hinting at, which is why I raised the "non-issue" nice and early. You know how these threads get copied and pasted elsewhere)

Wink

Anyway, at the risk of knocking the thread off course, which I wouldn't want to do ('cos I like minotaurs), I have a question. Hypothetical really and perhaps a bit trivial, but it's Sunday so I can forgive myself. You know these arks that they've commissioned containing all that species specific genetic data, ie there's one in Norway, another in Australia, at least one other that I can't remember and probably the ISiS? Well, what would be the point of all that effort if:

a) They didn't expect to be using it some day.
b) They couldn't ALREADY PRODUCE LIFE WITHOUT THE NEED FOR A LIVE BIOLOGICAL SPECIMEN OF EITHER SEX?

Also, anyone remember Dr Deagle talking about genetically engineered attack baboons? I don't think he ever gave any evidence to support the notion (no surprise there), but if anyone has any I'd certainly like to see it.
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I'm confused.

If you have something to say, please say it. There is already too much obfuscation about.
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PostMon Jan 28, 2008 6:26 am  Reply with quote  

There is no doubt in my mind that the Egyptians, and probably the Sumerians before them, had more advanced technology kept only among the Elite and their Priests. Interesting word LAB-Y-rinth, since it has the word LAB in it, and a Y for the Priests, and it's a maze underground, what a better way to hide your "secrets" than in a lab maze underground, where only those who know the keys, secret signs and symbols, can find a way to the laboratory. In fact, I've been reading a bit more on Egypt, etc. and it is interesting that they trained Chimpanzees to pick fruit from the trees for them.

Since slaves were nothing but tools of labor, who lived horrible lives of forced hard work until they dropped dead, it is no hard stretch of the imagination that the Priests experimented on humans and animals, I am sure they tried to mate them to create a better slave. Since the Egyptians did keep extensive records, it is logical to conclude that the tombs and areas were raided by those who wanted certain things kept secret, not everything revealed.

Obviously now, the gig is up and these nutcase scientists have the legal go ahead to create whatever they want, which they probably have already done in their underground labyrinths. But, of course, they are doing this to save us all from disease, ho ho ho Rolling Eyes More than likely this earlier experimentation is what has caused a lot of disease in humans and birth defects. Hasn't some weird movie come out about a girl who has a pig face?
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Hmm PostTue Jan 29, 2008 1:31 am  Reply with quote  

No but there was an episode of Seinfeld about that. Remember, Kramer found a pig-man in the hospital and all the doctors were covering it up?
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PostTue Jan 29, 2008 2:30 am  Reply with quote  

No, there was a movie made, I think possibly a foreign film, about a woman who had a pig face. Ah, here it is, Christina Rici is playing the part of a woman with a pig snout.

http://www.askmen.com/gossip/christina-ricci/pig-face-christina-ricci.html

http://movies.about.com/od/witherspoonreese/a/penelope011706.htm

There was also the pygmy race which by the way is curious because humans have less rejection to pig organs than chimps. Something to ponder.
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