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I emailed Scott the author of the article on its source. We will see what happens.
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Hi Scott,
Is that pic of the real id real?
http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=7849776
The "glassy" for eye color and the pyramid for backround makes some wonder if this is not made up from a real id opponent? Could you possibly source it?
We are debating it at...
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/msg115159.html#115159
Thanks for any time
David in Jaffrey NH
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here is another pic of the real id card with the pyramid in the backround.
http://community.centredaily.com/files/images/RealID-Card.gif
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Great work keeping this thread alive  
I read about new crimes related to ID fraud and fraudulent ID - as well as theft and also cyber crimes of hacking into the central EU and US databases, - remember these databases are to all be consolidated with all personal details as part of your digital profile. All government records consolidated into one database. It is enough to make criminals out of saints - really it will too. Sets a good ground to target dissenters and any possible threats they calculate from their software analysis that is done on profiles as they are updated on a daily basis, yes tracking you on a daily basis is due form of the system because of surveillance that will be linked up from the facial recognition cameras - not limited to street cameras that are to triple in numbers. Also car number plate camera scanners will track you - but when black boxes are introduced with GPS tracking you are their slave 100%
http://www.nrc.nl/W2/Lab/Echelon/stoa2sept1998.html
No guns, no legal weapon to defend your life - but the state has it all over you, for your own illusion of safety and security, how many times does history have to repeat for us to say enough! All stand up and fight now! the state does not have to use violence and does not want to unless necessary this time, they will however use concentration camps or internment camps that are called illegal immigrant camps.
It is all here - already and a reality! There is no escape so we better all face it and stand up to the enemy! Not be slaves ans submit to freedom killing lifeless institutional authoritarian elite.
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You can view the newsletter on-line in its usual format at:
http://www.no2id.net/news/newsletters/newsletter.php?issue=93
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ID SCHEME - REPACKAGED TO MAXIMISE COERCION
Don't be fooled, contrary to reports in the media, the government is
very much pressing ahead with its ID scheme - it has simply repackaged it.
Last Thursday the Home Secretary Jacqui Smith launched the ID scheme
'Delivery Plan', much of which NO2ID had already revealed via annotated
leaked documents that have now spread all over the internet. It is clear
that the aim is to grab as much data as possible as quickly as possible,
to try and coerce or dupe as many people as possible into being enrolled
on the ID database (the 'National Identity Register'), with the aim of
making universal registration seem inevitable.
To help this plan along the Home Office has repackaged its proposals to
hide the less palatable parts of the system. Its approach will be more
subtle, less aggressive (except for those who face losing their job if
they refuse to be registered) in the hope that they will be fooled into
"choosing" a lifelong regime of red tape, fines and inconvenience.
From November, non-EEA (European Economic Area) foreign national
students or those on a marriage visa will be compelled to have ID cards.
In 2009 airside staff at UK airports will be issued with ID cards - most
likely as part of the vetting process, to make it seem like less of a
big deal to those affected. Next, young people will be encouraged to
sign up "voluntarily", perhaps with pre-filled forms ready to sign and
return and a list of alleged benefits if they join the ID club...
This repackaging conceals the reality - once on the National Identity
Register, you are on for life. All of the penalties and fines for not
keeping your data up to date or accurate will kick in, and you will be
numbered forever.
We need to redouble our efforts - get the message out to the
government's prime targets such as young people and show that you'd have
to be mad to choose to go on the Register. None of the government's
benefits hold up and it is trying to hide all of the horrors of the system.
To do all of this we need your help.
- If you haven't already joined NO2ID, please do (an application form
can be found at http://www.no2id.net/getInvolved/join.php).
- Alternatively you can make a donation to the campaign (see
http://www.no2id.net/getInvolved/donate.php).
- Get involved with your local group, or if there isn't one in your area
then set one up (see http://www.no2id.net/localGroups/).
- Make the NO2ID pledge - an act of pre-emptive resistance that is
entirely legal and encourage others to do the same (more info at
http://www.no2id.net/pledge/).
We have to make sure that NOBODY is fooled by the government's
sugar-coated spin.
++ THANKS FOR ID DOSSIER RESPONSES ++
Many thanks to all of those that responded to our request for volunteers
willing to send us information on the questions being asked by the
Identity & Passport Service (IPS) when applying for a first adult
passport. We still need more information. Since we asked for people to
come forward in the last newsletter we are now able to offer even better
advice as to how to obtain information. If you are applying for your
first UK passport or if you've been called in for interview then you can
help. Please contact passports@no2id.net
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What's next?
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8th April - NO2ID LONDON MAYORAL HUSTINGS
Tuesday, 8th April 7pm at Friends House, 173 Euston Road NW1 2BJ. NO2ID
is holding hustings among the candidates for Mayor of London to discover
their positions on The Database State. How do candidates feel about the
civil liberties and privacy implications of, among other things, the
Oyster Card, congestion charging, telephone parking? Would they support
or oppose national ID schemes as mayor? What is their attitude to the
database state? Prospective candidates Gerrard Batten (UKIP), Sian Berry
(Green), Lindsay German (Respect), Boris Johnson (Conservative), and
Brian Paddick (LibDem) have indicated interest in participating already.
Anyone willing and available to volunteer as a steward at the hustings
event please contact office@no2id.net.
28th March - NORTH WEST INFORMAL MEETING
There will be an informal North West regional meeting on Friday, 28th
March in Liverpool. Contact liverpool@no2id.net for more information
SOUTH WEST AND SOUTH WALES REGIONAL MEETING
There will be a South West and South Wales regional meeting for local
groups in the region in late April. Location and details to be confirmed.
CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS - London office
We need help running our office in London. If you live in London and
have a few hours to spare regularly during the week please volunteer to
join the staff rota helping with the vital clerical work to support the
campaign. If you can help please contact the office if you can help
(office@no2id.net).
+ LOCAL GROUPS NEWS +
We now have local groups in 44 of the 69 proposed locations for
interrogation centres - of which just 3 have yet to open. Parliamentary
answers indicate that the most active centres are: Belfast, Birmingham,
Glasgow, Leeds, Liverpool, London, Manchester, Newcastle, Newport,
Peterborough and Sheffield.
As of the end of January 2008, 22 of the centres had performed fewer
than 10 interrogations. There may still be time to apply for your first
adult passport without being called in for an official grilling - but,
if you are, your details still won't be going onto the National Identity
Register. It isn't built yet.
For information on your nearest interrogation centre, see
www.no2id.net/getInvolved/idCentres.php. If you can help set up a local
group in one of the remaining locations, or anywhere else in the UK,
please contact Matty on local.groups@no2id.net
+ Birmingham +
The Birmingham NO2ID group held their first meeting on Monday 25th
February. Turnout was high with all attendees demonstrating enthusiasm
and a strong commitment to raising awareness in the city of the
implications of the ID card scheme and National Identity Register. The
group discussed the reasons for their opposition to ID cards and the
Register and potential future activities including leafleting, a DVD
screening and a practical workshop looking at how to structure letters
of protest.
31st March - Birmingham NO2ID Meeting Monday, 31st March 7.30pm at the
Mac (Midlands Arts Centre). All welcome to attend.
+ Cambridge +
29th March - NO2ID Cambridge Stall
Saturday, 29th March at 10am in the usual spot outside Cambridge
Guildhall. Location Map: http://tinyurl.com/eo42r. As ever, volunteers
to help very welcome - please email cambridge@no2id.net, or text/call
Andrew on 07710 469624 if you can make it.
2nd April - Cambridge NO2ID pub meeting (1st Wednesday of each month)
Wednesday, 2nd April 7.30pm at the Salisbury Arms, 76 Tenison Rd,
Cambridge CB1 2DW. Map: (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=cb1+2dw). For
more details contact cambridge@no2id.net, or text/call Andrew on 07710
469624.
3rd May - Cambridge NO2ID benefit gig
Saturday, 3rd May from 8pm, at The Locomotive, 44 Mill Road, Cambridge
CB1 2AS. The line-up: Mousse - The Grisettes - Allotment. Admission £4 -
proceeds go to support NO2ID's London HQ. Many thanks to the bands for
contributing their time and talents: http://tinyurl.com/28da7v
http://tinyurl.com/2z6z4n http://tinyurl.com/yv6cwl
+ Canterbury +
22nd March - Canterbury NO2ID Street Stall
Saturday, 22nd March 10am onwards on Canterbury High Street. If anyone
would like to get involved please contact canterbury@no2id.net or call
Caz on 07792567087.
+ Dorking +
We are now 3 months old. Regular meetings occur on the 1st Tuesday every
month. Our first street stall will be held on Good Friday in Dorking
High Street. Future events include a public showing of the film “Taking
Liberties”, further street stalls, and a large scale public meeting
later in the year. Other medium term projects include an approach to the
Local Council to pass a motion of non-cooperation with ID Cards and the
National Identity Register. Contact: Geoff Cox 01306 631377.
+ Edinburgh +
Jamie Hepburn MSP talks to Edinburgh group
Last week, Scottish National Party MSP Jamie Hepburn addressed NO2ID
Edinburgh as part of the group's series of presentations by members of
the Scottish Parliament talking about their position on ID cards.
Hepburn is the convener of the parliamentary cross-party group on Human
Rights and Civil Liberties, who had led for the SNP in the Scottish
Parliament Civil Liberties debate in December. He gave a strong reprise
of his speech there. Incidentally that anti-ID card motion was carried
64-1 with 60 Labour and Conservative members abstaining, the former
shamefully interpreting opposition to ID cards simply as an attack on
the Labour Party.
Saturdays 1pm - 3pm - NO2ID Edinburgh street stall
Every week, weather permitting, you will find our campaigning stall at
the east end of Princes Street, opposite the Balmoral Hotel. Do drop by
for a chat. New volunteers - please contact John(edinburgh@no2id.net),
and for more group information see http://www.no2id-scotland.net/edinburgh/
+ Glasgow +
Most Saturdays 2pm - NO2ID Glasgow Street Stall
Most Saturdays there are stalls in Glasgow city centre (usually Buchanan
Street) from about 2pm. Volunteers are always welcome, please contact
Geraint if you would like to help: glasgow@no2id.net
+ Hackney +
2nd April - Hackney NO2ID Meeting
Wednesday, 2nd April 7pm at the Pembury Tavern as usual, for around an
hour-and-a-half. If you have any ideas for activities, come to the
meeting (or email hackney@no2id.net, if you can't make it).
+ Leeds +
15h March - Leeds NO2ID Street Stall
Saturday, 15th March 1pm on Brigate (the big pedestrianised street with
McDonalds, Debenhams and M&S on it). Meet at 1pm outside Alliance and
Leicester, everybody welcomed with open arms! If you don't want to be on
the stall, come along and have a chat.
20th March - Leeds NO2ID Meeting
Thursday, 20th March 7pm at the Victoria Inn, 28 Great George Street,
Leeds, LS1 3BB
(http://www.itchyleeds.co.uk/venue/198436/The-Victoria-Inn.html).
Contact number for anyone who gets lost: 07843 098091 (Nadine).
+ Liverpool +
29th March - Public Meeting, Liverpool
Saturday, 29th March in central Liverpool. Details to follow. Contact
liverpool@no2id.net for more information.
+ Manchester +
Manchester Students Against ID has relaunched for the 2008/2009 academic
year, and pledges to bring the fight against the Database State to the
highest levels of Manchester University. Meetings to be announced, see
http://manchester.no2id.net/students for details.
20th March - Preston NO2ID Meeting,
Thursday, 20th March 2008, 7:30pm-9pm at the Bluebell on Church Street.
Former Preston co-ordinator Tia Purple and Manchester co-ordinator Dave
Page will be present to help answer any questions about running a local
group or the campaign in general.
12th April - Manchester NO2ID Street Stall
Saturday, 12th April 2pm-4pm in St. Ann's Square. We'll be running a
Saturday afternoon stall to raise awareness among the public and engage
people in discussion about the National Identity Register. We'll meet in
the square itself at 2pm to set up shop; feel free to join us to lend a
hand or just chat. You don't need any experience or equipment, just a
bit of time to spare and a friendly smile!
+ Oxford +
29th March - Oxford NO2ID Street Stall
Saturday, 29th March in Cornmarket, Oxford. Can you spare us an hour or
so to hand out leaflets, talk to people or in other ways help out?
Contact oxford@no2id.net for more information.
+ Redbridge +
31st March - Redbridge NO2ID Planning Meeting
Monday, 31st March 7.30pm at Ilford Town Hall, ground floor meeting
room. The purpose of the meeting is to plan future events for the
Redbridge NO2ID campaign. One of the main proposals is a film show of
the feature film 'Taking Liberties.' Any other ideas will be most
welcome. For further details of the meeting or to discuss the campaign
please feel free to contact Paul Kaufman at redbridge@no2id.net or call
07801 429782.
+ Scarborough +
13th March - Inaugural Meeting Scarborough NO2ID group
Thursday, 13th March 7.30 pm at Sigma, under The Cask Inn on Cambridge
Terrace, Scarborough
+ Selby +
18th March - First meeting of Selby NO2ID
Tuesday March 18th 8pm at the Blue Bell, Monk Fryston,
+ Southampton +
Report from Southampton NO2ID
We have had a busy couple of weeks. In the wake of the government
announcements we were successful in getting interviews on Wave 105 FM
and Radio Solent. Student members are working on forming a University
Club so that we can canvass and agitate on Campus. Letters and
information packs including a pledge, a survey form and a draft council
motion, have been sent out to all Southampton, Eastleigh and Test Valley
councillors. Contacts from this have revealed that the Chief Constable
of Hampshire is against ID Cards and Conservatives are putting an
anti-ID card motion to Southampton full council meeting this week. We
will be pressing the councillors to support this motion and will
continue to work to raise the issue of ID Cards at the May local
government elections.
2nd April Southampton NO2ID Meeting
Wednesday, 2nd April at 8:00pm at the Dolphin pub in St Denys, Southampton
+ Southwark +
22nd March - Southwark NO2ID at the Synergy Centre
Synergy has been an enthusiastic supporter of NO2ID. On 22nd March,
Southwark NO2ID is invited to participate in an event entitled
‘Indigenous People’, to be held at The Synergy Centre, 220 Farmers Road,
Camberwell SE5, from 9pm until 7am. Entry £10, £7 advance, £7
concessions, £5 before 10pm. This is a fundraising event so please do
come along and support the event as well as NO2ID. More details on the
website www.thesynergycentre.org.
Are you interested in volunteering for events previously listed in the
newsletter for 18th April, 19th April and 26th April?
Volunteers are still required for these events so if you can spare a few
hours to help man the stall, please contact Judith at southwark@no2id.net
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+ Government release multiple ID reports +
In the last fortnight the government released a slew of ID card reports
and policy documents. They are clearly trying to swamp the public with
an excess of information and burying bad news, whilst try to rebrand
their ID scheme. Don't be fooled, the ID scheme and the National
Identity Register are as bad as ever.
ID scheme delivery plan:
http://www.ips.gov.uk/identity/downloads/national-identity-scheme-delivery-2008.pdf
ID cards for foreign nationals: http://tinyurl.com/2foy49
Crosby Review of ID scheme:
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/6/7/identity_assurance060308.pdf
Home Secretary's speech to Demos:
http://www.ips.gov.uk/identity/downloads/secretary-speech-2008-03-06.pdf
+ Crosby Review finally released +
The government has finally released the so called Crosby review of the
government's ID scheme. The report entitled 'Challenges and
opportunities in identity assurance' is authored by Sir James Crosby,
former chief executive of banking group HOBS. The Crosby review began in
September 2006, was due by Easter 2007, was then "being finalised" in
early July, then due "late summer" 2007 etch. When it was finally
released last week the government just happened to release their ID
scheme delivery plan at the same time. Crosby criticises the
government's approach to ID and suggests an alternative ID system, that
many have described as a banker's vision of an ID scheme.
For more details see http://www.no2id.net/newsblog/?p=792
+ NO2IDs media coverage around the country+
Last week as the government released their ID scheme delivery plan NO2ID
groups around the country were able to get media coverage all over the
country. Local groups worked together to get press releases out prior to
the announcement and fielded radio, press and TV interviews on the day
of the delivery plan's release. Well done to all of those in the local
groups involved in handling the media. Early indications suggest that
NO2ID got around 700 media mentions, the number of web visitors shot up
considerably as did requests for information and newsletter sign ups.
Clearly a lot of people weren't taken in by the government's spin.
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+ Government fails to sell ID concept - Computing 13/3/08 +
On the afternoon that home secretary Jacqui Smith announced the latest
changes to ID cards, the Treasury-commissioned Crosby study was also
quietly released after months of delays Computing was leaked details
of its contents as long ago as last August.
http://www.computing.co.uk/computing/analysis/2211739/government-fails-sell-id-3888104
+ MoD loses 11,000 ID cards - The Register 12/3/08 +
The Ministry of Defence has lost 11,000 military ID cards in the last
two years, the government has admitted to parliament.Although this seems
like a paltry loss compared to the 25m records lost by Her Majesty's
Revenue and Customs, it is still rather a lot, particularly when you
consider the armed forces amount to less than 200,000 souls in all.
+ Backlash over airport workers ID card plans - Travel Weekly 12/3/08 +
British Air Transport Association secretary-general Roger Wiltshire
accused the Home Office of using airport workers as guinea pigs.
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articles/2008/03/12/26951/backlash-over-airport-workers-id-card-plans.html
+ Speaker Michael Martin uses 319-year-old law to gag reports on the
failing ID card scheme - Daily Mail 9/3/08 +
Commons speaker Michael Martin is using a 319-year-old law designed to
protect freedom of speech to try to stop the publication of Home Office
reports on the failing ID card scheme.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=528738&in_page_id=1770
+ Heathrow airport first to fingerprint - The Telegraph 8/3/08 +
Millions of British airline passengers face mandatory fingerprinting
before being allowed to board flights when Heathrow’s Terminal 5 opens
later this month. For the first time at any airport, the biometric
checks will apply to all domestic passengers leaving the terminal, which
will handle all British Airways flights to and from Heathrow.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/07/nheathrow107.xml
+ Nothing to hide, but plenty to fear from Ms ID Card - Mail on Sunday
8/3/08
The alleged Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, says she needs to be able to
prove who she is. I agree it's a problem. It is hard to credit that this
deeply unimpressive person holds the great office once occupied by
Winston Churchill.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=528695&in_page_id=1772&in_author_id=224
+ Sir James Crosby recommends no charge for identity cards - The Times
7/3/08 +
Identity cards should be provided free as a way of winning the “hearts
and minds” of the public, the Government’s own expert recommended
yesterday.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3500361.ece
+ UK Home Office disk in computer bought on eBay - Taipei Times 1/3/08 +
A repairman discovered a confidential government CD hidden inside a
notebook computer bought on eBay, a computer store in northern England
said on Thursday.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2008/03/01/2003403461
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JOIN UP DONATE OR BE RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING PASSIVE WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE OF THE FUTURE.
AS GOOD AS ENDORSING IT - BY TAKING NO ACTION AT ALL!
No local group where you live? Then start one and find out who your real friends and supporters are in this world! Then expand and network with other local groups! Simple as simple is - Action....You will be pleasantly surprised how many networks and groups meet up with other umbrella freedom organisations nationally and internationally once part of it all.
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More ID fun in the US as in the EU. Of course, Daly, IL is compliant.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1724905,00.html
Friday, Mar. 21, 2008
The States' ID War with Washington
By Karen Tumulty/Washington
Governors and state legislatures across the country are balking at a new federal requirement that they begin issuing more secure driver licenses and identification for their citizens, which require proof that they are legal residents of the country. If there is no resolution come May, people who live in states that are not in compliance may find that their state-issued driver licenses and ID cards are of no use when they need to board an airplane or enter a federal building. "We are not bluffing on this date of May 11," says Homeland Security Department spokeswoman Amy Kudwa.
At issue is the REAL ID Act, passed by Congress with almost no debate in 2005, requiring states to add costly new security features, including a harder-to-forge design and additional layers of identity verification, to driver licenses and other government-issued identification. One of the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission, it aims to prevent terrorism and reduce the chances of counterfeiting. "The 9/11 hijackers obtained 30 different driver's licenses and IDs, and used 364 aliases," Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff has noted. "For an extra $8 per license, REAL ID will give law enforcement and security officials a powerful advantage against falsified documents, and it will bring some peace of mind to citizens wanting to protect their identity from theft."
But it won't be that easy, practical or cheap, say the states. In South Carolina, for instance, Governor Mark Sanford warns it will mean residents will have to pay $60 for driver licenses that are good for eight years, rather than the $25 they are now paying for 10-year licenses. And they may find themselves standing in line for up to two hours to obtain those licenses, rather than the 15-minute waits they now experience. So outraged are the states that legislatures in South Carolina, Maine, Montana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma and Washington have passed laws banning their agencies from complying with the act, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures; Idaho thumbed its nose at the law by appropriating $0 for its implementation this year.
The four states that are objecting the most, however, are South Carolina, Montana, New Hampshire and Maine. The four have thus far ignored a March 31 deadline to seek an extension that would technically put them in compliance with the law for up to two years. If they fail to meet the deadline, that means starting May 11 their citizens would not be allowed to use identification from those states to board aircraft or enter government buildings. If they lack any other acceptable ID, they would be subjected to additional security screening that would make travel an extra hassle.
The chief issue, states say, is the estimated $4 billion cost of the law over the next 10 years, which comes at a time when state budgets are already stressed to the breaking point. So far, the feds have provided only $380 million in grants to offset those costs. "How dare they not pay for it?" Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell told TIME. "The cost is 12 days of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan."
Last Thursday, Rendell, South Carolina's Sanford and the governors of Delaware, Nevada and Arizona held a heated conference call with Chertoff to air their complaints. And that same day, the National Governors Association sent letters to President Bush, the House and Senate leadership and congressional appropriators demanding: "If the federal government is going to direct state security practices over traditional state functions such as driver's licenses and identification cards, then the federal government should pay the states' cost of compliance." The question, however, is which cost will be higher for the states: Paying for the new cards, or listening to the complaints of people who suddenly discover that air travel has become even more unpleasant.
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ID THEFT ON THE RISE: GOVERNMENT SOLUTION IS TO CONSOLIDATE EVERYONES ID ONCE CENTRAL DATABASES SO CRIMINALS AND MAFIA CAN HACK INTO DATABASE AND STEAL YOUR ID OR MAKE A FAKE ID DIRECTLY ON THE DATABASE THAT WILL BE EASILY HACKED BY THESE ID FRAUDSTERS!
IT EXPERTS HAVE WARNED.
http://www.epolitix.com/EN/News/200607/5c59ac69-0a1b-4143-8a77-5361075d0c2d.htm
http://www.no2id.net/news/pressRelease/release.php?name=ID%20cards%20will%20increase%20identity%20theft
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2006/nov/01/news.newmedia
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/07/03/british_id_cards_to_revolutionise/
British ID cards to revolutionise crime
quote:
According to Simon Davies, Privacy International's Director, criminals now have access to technology almost as sophisticated at that used by governments so that "even the most highly secure cards are available as blanks weeks after their introduction.
"The ramifications of an ID card conform to the dynamics of the black market economy. Whenever governments attempt to introduce an ID card, it is always based on the aim of eliminating false identity," Davies said.
"The higher the stated 'integrity' (infallibility) of a card, the greater is its value to criminals and illegal immigrants. A high-value card attracts substantially larger investment in corruption and counterfeit activity. The equation is simple: higher value ID equals greater criminal activity."
The government says a national ID card will combat the growing problem of identity theft, in which a person's identity is fraudulently acquired for criminal purposes. It is a huge problem in the US, made all the worse because of the ubiquitous Social Security Number. Critics of national ID proposals in the US have warned that any central ID number massively increases the incidence of identity theft. Privacy International supports this view, and predicts that any national ID system will increase identity theft in the UK to US proportions.
THE MORE ID WE HAVE = MORE CRIME THERE IS!!! PROVEN!
£1.7 bn a year to let ID THEFT - FRAUD SKYROCKET! Now think how worse it will get with ID cards!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4672622.stm
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39265743,00.htm
Even DNA samples are not 100% - several people have been wrongly accused over the years because they only test small sample and do not even test the complete sample, same applies ot flawed biometrics - seriously flawed and always will be!
http://management.silicon.com/government/0,39024677,10004326,00.htm
We know they do not prevent or stop terrorism but actually help fund terrorism using ID fraud/theft!
We know that ID cards do not prevent ID Theft!
There is no use - totally unnecessary and only useful for terrorists!
No wonder the state wants it!
http://www.j-n-v.org/AW_briefings/JNV_briefing060.htm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article725050.ece
This is old news yet (very serious and existing) the state ignore it all and go ahead with it anyway! Look at the BA Airport terminal problems - always have problems in the UK with the crap they do. Always forewarned, always cause a disaster even still.
Terrorism will now start as will ID fraud ID theft will rise like crazy! All caused by ID cards and consolidation of all personal data on one central database, including all health records. Accessible over the Internet. Sold to corporations of the world....now that is (false) security.
http://www.epolitix.com/EN/Search/Search.htm?sfulltext=True&stype1=0&ssort1=5%257c1&ssearch=ID+cards&x=0&y=0
Now with EU reports directly leaked from EU Commission that ID cards do not fight crime of any kind! We know it will only increase it! What terrorist would not feel more encouraged or have more confidence when having an ID card....passing through security checks with ease and approval!
The banks told (sold us lies) us chip and pin debit credit cards were more secure! They are not - many people have had their cards info stolen, decrypted and account emptied.
Hackers will always be far more advanced, they are the ones to create the software code in the first place. The ones to find all security problems, the ones to solve them and find newer security holes, and the ones that can ultimately work for terrorists sponsored by state.
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