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shatoga
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Earth's Axis Tilt increased
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Earth's Axis Tilt Has recently increased by an additional 26 degrees http://divulgence.net/26d_increase_AxialTilt.jpg
The earth is not flopping around on its axis. The angle is a fixed position as we orbit the sun http://divulgence.net/star%20charts.htm
As glaciers continue to melt, our planet's axis will continue to slip until it is completely sideways. Both polar regions will be where our equator once was... rotation of the earth will remain the same except that we will be sideways...north pole facing the sun in the summer... winter months, just the opposite. ->look at the information, images and data before dismissing this. You can easily verify this info to confirm its validity. Links provided info courtesy NASA, USGS, NOAA, NWS, SOHO verify the angle of the sun for yourself. http://divulgence.net/Tropic%20of%20Cancer.html http://divulgence.net/How%20and%20Why.html |
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mr. jones
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Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:01 pm
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When planet X comes closest to earth (Dec. 21, 2012)it will give the axis its final blow sending it into a new rotational cycle.
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shatoga
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Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:11 pm
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http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/ice_ages/tilt_graph.html
This graph shows the variation in the tilt of the Earth's axis over the last
750000 years. The blue line traces the tilt in degrees.
http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/pseudosc/flipaxis.htm
The Moon actually acts to keep the earth's axis tilt within moderate limits. Planets like Mars that lack large moons can precess greatly
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-03/whoi-cie032905.php
study reported in the March 24, 2005 issue of Nature finds that these glacial cycles are paced by variations in the tilt of Earth's axis,
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message425382/pg2
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I have noticed that the angle of the sun appears to be different as it is viewed out of the South facing patio doors where I have lived for ten years. There is a house directly across the street on a rounded hill that was always the one to retain snow and be the last to melt... and also his grass would always stay green and mine would get burnt yellow cause the Sun would shine as though over his shoulder and just skim down his angled away from the Sun hill and then the Sun would burn the s!@# out of my grass that has an angled hill directly facing toward the Sun.
What somehow appears to be different is now the Sun is ALSO burning the hill of green grass of my neighbor's lawn yellow at what can/must be only be a more direct angle? since when first took notice when moving in ten years ago.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message425382/pg3
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I have lived in NC for 18 yrs. and have had a garden in the same spot for all of those years. For the first 15 yrs. the sun traveled directly over my garden's east/west orientation during Late May through Early July. Five years ago I started noticing that the sun wasn't in it's nomal place in the sky, each year it has been farther off its normal course. This year I haven't been able to use the garden due to the fact that the sun now is obscured by trees for the majority of the day. I would say that the trees had just grown taller except that, being a gardner, I watch the skies in each season and am very familiar with where the sun should be when.
I went on one of the sites that tells you where and when the sun will rise and at what declination and found for my area where the sun should be rising. I then took a compass and pointed it at where North has alway been in my yard it was not where it has always been. I then lined up with where the compass said North was and took a reading, according to the information given to me on the government site the sun was 14 degrees south of where it should be.
I am no scientist but I am aware of the signs of the season for my area and there is something amiss.
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I live in Finland, which is up north. My location about 600k south from polar circle. Please take the following as what it is: purely speculational and based on a gut feeling.
Before I landed on any of this information about axis tilt, I have been puzzled by the position of the sun. My subjective feeling this august has been in several separate days during the summer that it is too high. It ought to be lower by now. Still at this point, late in the afternoon or even early in the evening it is too high. As I said, Iīve got nothing to back it up. I am certainly not thinking extra 26 degrees, but my spontaneous notion has been without outside influences that sun is not where Iīve learned it to be in 30 something years. Beeing too high would suggest a tilt of axis. I am all for reason and study, so if anyone can manage to do measurements in his/her area to compare where the sun is and where it should be and present the case here - would be great!
What I am also all for is, that I donīt take for granted that if something is up in the world, we all get notified instantly. Kept-in-the-dark seems more likely to be the case 
Godspeed!
I just read and wonder.
http://asinthedaysofnoah.blogspot.com/2007/08/earths-axis-tilt-has-recently-increased.html
http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62140&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
http://digg.com/space/Earth_s_Axis_Tilt_Has_recently_increased_by_26_Degrees
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=185924
http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=44462&view=next |
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shatoga
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Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:44 pm
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There are people who believe what the experts tell them and those who see with their own eyes.
Remember flat earthers who called round earthers idiots and fools.
Experts have a huge stake in keeping the status quo.
http://www.freedomcrowsnest.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62140&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=450bc269e704b056deee6377fb394891
Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:25 pm: ... i took the garbage out last night at midnight. the sky was beautiful,
perfect. could see the milky way and beyond. trouble was, the big dipper
was not in the north sky behind my casa. it was sitting directly above my
garage, due west of where it is supposed be.
so i believe we have tilted big time.
damndest thing i ever saw. wouldn't do me any good to try to
navigate by the north star right now. i'd be heading for north dakato
instead menominee falls wisconsin.
and please don't write back saying i'm tetched in the head. i was a girl
scout once upon a time and learned the north star's position back then.
it isn't in the same position in the sky anymore.
that's a fact.
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Cloudy Skies
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:54 pm
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quote:
Originally posted by shatoga
and please don't write back saying i'm tetched in the head. i was a girl
scout once upon a time and learned the north star's position back then.
it isn't in the same position in the sky anymore.
that's a fact.
That as maybe. But here in the UK the stars are exactly where they always have been (for the time of year / time of day) and the sun and moon rise and set exactly where they always have done (for the time of year).
And that's also a fact.
So how to explain it? |
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sicntired
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:11 pm
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Go to www.divulgence.net and get into the sattelite image page for Dec.5, and 6th, 2006. You can actually see the shift happening. Of course NASA blames this on a large solar flare. The shift knocked out GPS for awhile until it could be repositioned. |
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Tally27
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Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:11 pm
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I have to agree with CloudySkies here, I often watch the stars and moon at night, assuming it's clear enough...things are in completely the same position here as they usually are, so unless the UK has magically not been affected by this, I can't quite understand it. |
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raze78
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:56 am
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Depending on the angle of tilt, the direction and your position on the globe, you might not notice any changes. Especially if you are at a 90degree angle of the tilt direction.
Sounds scientific don't it. well i was just fooling around with an orange. Try it, you'll see.
But then again....maybe not.
Interesting theory though... As I always claim, the earth is experiencing the prelude to a total polar reversal.
So things don't make much sense right now.
Birds migrate towards true north, bypassing their traditional routes, thereby arises the questions we often hear...where are the birds? Where did they go? While some observe exotic species nesting in their region for the first time and take photos.
Also, the current food shortages and price hikes. Maybe regions that were good at producing certain foods, are no longer ideal. Maybe that explains the low yields of certain food crops.
Lets not forget the global hoax that is global warming. I used to think governments peddle that crap just to raise more money. An indirect tax. But now, I think, its just part of the grand illusion.
So what if maybe, chemtrails are there for the same reason?
What if, they spray us, so that the weather appears the same and we don't notice and don't panic. Why is Australia experiencing such a prolonged period of drought? I mean, if they are so good at creating rain, why doesn't it rain in Australia?
Or maybe they need the winds and the moisture it brings with it. Maybe they are not really creating the rain or snow, but influencing it. And so what happens if a continent has tilted so much that it no longer receives the blessing of the prevailing winds?
More questions than answers....
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sicntired
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:47 pm
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In the midwest, we have had an unusually long, cold, damp, drawn out winter. In April it is still colder than normal. Bulbs are coming up more slowly and there are not that many buds on the trees yet. Very few clear, sunny days this winter. Don't know if this indicates anything. We need observations for comparison of the winter from NorthEast, South, SouthWest and Western posters. |
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weatherman714
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:18 pm
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In the midwest, we have had an unusually long, cold, damp, drawn out winter. In April it is still colder than normal. Bulbs are coming up more slowly and there are not that many buds on the trees yet. Very few clear, sunny days this winter. Don't know if this indicates anything. We need observations for comparison of the winter from NorthEast, South, SouthWest and Western posters.
lol.
Great News!
You can sit in your computer chair, relax and chill. Pop open your favorite drink because this is a hoax. Just like Planet X(which was suppose to arrive in 2002).
The cold air over the Mid-Western US this winter was a combination between La Nina and the USAF's weather modification project. They felt freezing the mid-west with snow and cold was better economically than allowing the storms to move across TN and NC and then turn the corner up the East Coast. Cold weather makes people depressed and snow keeps them in doors so people don't spend money and in a recession that means nothing but bad news. |
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shatoga
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Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:36 pm
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When I read about this,
I remembered:
AZ desert, early 1980's
A man in his 70's pointed to mountains east of us;
"The sun used to rise over that peak. Now it rises a little bit to the left of it"
The changes are small enough to escape notice.
Earth has always wobbled.
That supposed 26.5 degrees tilt has always been an average.
Just check NASA etc or google 'axis til't and read many articles & commentary from many sources before posting this topic.
Note the comments culled from web forums.
Just like chemtrails.
There are those who have an opinion and those who let the evidence form their opinion.
Sometimes those who stick to their own opinion are right.
Sometimes sticking with mainstream science is the safest way to go.
Ask any flatearther. They knew the roundworlder nuts will eventually be proven wrong and science win over sensationalism.
Not that the tilt is EVER constant.
Watch a top sometime. Any spinning object will wobble, even flip.
Doesn't mean we will notice.
Already moving at a rotational speed of about 1000 mph.
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970401c.html
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The circumference of the Earth at the equator is 25,000 miles. The Earth rotates in about 24 hours. Therefore, if you were to hang above the surface of the Earth at the equator without moving, you would see 25,000 miles pass by in 24 hours, at a speed of 25000/24 or just over 1000 miles per hour.
You or me, noticing an earth axis wobble?
That's like noticing a car traveling at one hundred mph shift from lane to lane when you are not absorbed in watching the lane markers.
Things do happen without you or me personally noticing.
I believe, along with the experts, that the earth does wobble as it spins.
So do people at these links:
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-03/whoi-cie032905.php
Mar 29, 2005 ... A new study reported in the March 24 issue of Nature finds that these glacial cycles are paced by variations in the tilt of Earth's axis,
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/earth_wobble_010131.html
http://www.livescience.com/environment/050330_earth_tilt.html
http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/15198_earth.html
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/iceage-01a.html
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/12/28/1103996533891.html
http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/prrl/prrl0622.html
http://technocrat.net/d/2006/7/29/6160
http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/viewtopic.php?t=344
http://www.michaelmandeville.com/earthmonitor/polarmotion/2006_wobble_anomaly.htm
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/wobble/wob4.html
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=61102 |
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mr. jones
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Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:53 pm
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the place where you live definetely has a lot to do with what can see.
But comin next year everyone will get to see planet x in the southern hemisphere.
And thatīs no joke!
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