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Dry Cough
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What is the New World Order-from Dennis L. Cuddy's book intr
Wed Sep 18, 2002 3:44 am
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Someone on one of the boards - I think it was the CT reports - wondered just what the New World Order was. Though many people here have provided some excellent definitions, I think NWO researcher Dennis L. Cuddy had an excellent summary in his one paragraph intro to his book NOW IS THE DAWNING OF THE NEW AGE NEW WORLD ORDER which can be bought off amazon.com I believe - it is in the second printing - the original printing had much more information which I wonder if Mr. Cuddy removed under threat from someone. Anyway, here it is.
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Though there has been revolution after revolution (symbolized by spirals or whirlwinds) around the world for centuries, the New Age Revolution is the all-encompassing, largest one ever. All borders must come down; all religious barriers must be broken. One world, one government; one religion; one humanity, made up of humans with a collective consciousness and serving as "points of light" networking around the globe. The symbol of the red dragon is explained in Revelation 12:3-4. The colors depicted under the dragon symbolize the tri-vehicle of Economy-Ecology-Ecumenism upon which the dragon is riding as he ushers in the New Age New World Order by means of crises and various consciousness changing processes. These will result in increased numbers joining interfaith enviromental ministries ("greening of religion") or even the re-emerging mythological Great Mother Earth/Goddess/Gaia movement, and in many more people believing, in desperation, the false promise to bring forth a Utopian world of health and happiness (wellness/wholeness), peace and prosperity, and harmony and unity, or as some have described it, the "Golden Dawn." Watch carefully plans and actions resulting from the U.N. Conference on Environment and Development (Brazil, 1992), from the Parliament of the World's Religions (United States, 1993), especially the "Earth" section, and from the 1999 Parliament of the World's Religions (South Africa).
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For those interested Catholics out there, one might notice that Roger Cardinal Mahony's new LA Cathedral which was just consecrated (supposedly) on September 3rd has bronze doors with "symbols of deities from around the world" to quote one AP story which we cut out of the paper. The one world religion, brilliantly summarized in a nutshell, now on Mahony's cathedral doors. But since the Vatican since Vatican II has ardously promoted the communist/masonic one world religion, calling for a "liturgy for all religions" in the opening session in the council daybook, which resulted in 33rd degree, black mass attending, devil worshipping freemason Annibale (Hannibal) Bugnini's NEW ORDER or novus ordo mass promulgated by the probable mason and communist Giovanni Batista Montini, the former "pope" Paul 6, one can see why. Karol Wojtyla, the current "papal" aspirant (though canonically ineligible, as another syncretist and possible mason who also promotes all that Cuddy mentions above - disbelievers can subscribe to the daily doses which zenit.org will confirm all that I have stated above as far as the current Vatican leadership's goals and ambitions to help this reign of Antichrist to occur), was allowed to travel freely in and out of communist Poland while other faithful Catholic clerics were held by communist authorities under house arrest or virtual prison arrest. He now has Gorbachev, devoted Leninist, into visit him on a regular basis, calls for the one world religion with Queen Elizabeth and her new agey masonic hubby Prince Phillip, and gathers together all the world's religious leaders for syncretistic type gatherings at Assisi and elsewhere, and when he cannot head those meetings he sends Cardinal Francis Arinze to do his dirty, UnChristian and UnCatholic work in this matter. Yes, Our Lady of LaSallette told Melanie Calvat and Maximin Giraud in the late 1800s in LaSallette France, weeping, that Rome would lose the Faith and become the seat of the Antichrist. And so it has. |
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Mech

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Wed Sep 18, 2002 4:49 am
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While I do indeed agree the NWO exists(elitist hypercapitalists)..I must disagree with you in snubbing environmentalists as gullible in blindly subscribing to a new religion..in fact...some of the more militant ones... know what's really going on, and will not subscribe to a religious doctrine created by man. They underestimate us and the power WE yeild. we won't go quietly.While the U.N. is scary, i find NAFTA and GATT treaties much more scary because those LAWS were inacted by CLINTON supported by BUSH SR., which virtually "NUKE" our democratically inacted laws in favor of WORLD COMMERCE I.E. "TRADE"and will turn the U.S.(as we are now seeing) into a sub-minimum wage slave class..slowly but surely.
Everyone who is not among the elite must now enter the "race to the bottom" or inother words...be in a race against each other for who will work for the lowest wage. Just compare how wages have adjusted for inflation since the 1970's...there's your answer.
I am sick and tired of environmentalists getting blamed for the lack of unity in the opposition to the NWO.And for every other political issue for that matter... Damned tired! These are NOT the people who we need to go after for pete sake!!!!!
Mech
Monkeywrench the New World Order.
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Deborah
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Wed Sep 18, 2002 6:09 am
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MECH wrote:
.....I am sick and tired of environmentalists getting blamed for the lack of unity in the opposition to the NWO.And for every other political issue for that matter... Damned tired! These are NOT the people who we need to go after for pete sake!!!!!.....
THANK YOU.
I'm sick and tired of it, too. Nobody I know sits around talking about *Mother Gaia* and visions of wheatgrass in every blender.
And the idea of a Corporate/Military/Industrialist Monolith overrunning, with its proprietary technology, and for its own meticulously-circumscribed gain, the very air, water and earth that support us ALL is HARDLY Big News at this late date.
This piece says it all as far as I'm concerned - I call it KYOTO AMERICAN-STYLE:
17 September 2002
The New York Times
U.S. Will Get Power, and Pollution, From Mexico
MEXICALI, Mexico, Sept. 11 -- American companies have long faced intense resistance to big new power plants from communities crying, "Not in my backyard."
Now they have a big new backyard: Mexico.
Here on the edge of Mexicali, a few miles from the California border, two huge power plants are rising in the desert, near a graveyard and a clutch of hovels. They will generate billions of watts for millions of Californians, a handful of jobs for Mexicans and pollution on both sides of the border.
They are "what free trade is all about," says an official of InterGen, the company building one. But a California congressman calls placing the plants in Mexico a form of environmental imperialism.
The plants will be the first of many built in Mexico specifically to provide power for the United States, says Mexico's energy secretary, Ernesto Martens. And that represents a new phase in relations between the two nations.
First came the labor of migrant workers. Then, in the 1990's, came the maquiladoras, the assembly-line factories providing cheap Mexican labor for American and multinational corporations under the North American Free Trade Agreement.
Now these 21st-century plants -- call them energy maquiladoras -- represent a new way to generate wealth and power by capitalizing on the economic and legal differences dividing Mexico and the United States.
Mexico's environmental law enforcement is weaker, its government less transparent, its desire for foreign capital bottomless. California's energy demand is enormous -- as big as its citizens' resistance to huge power plants.
These projects are the first result.
"Building anything on the Mexican side is much cheaper, mostly because of the regulatory system," which is less stringent than in the United States, said Ernesto Ruffo, President Vicente Fox's border commissioner.
President Bush and the United States Department of Energy had to issue special presidential permits for the plants, which will be powered by natural gas piped from Texas, cooled by Mexicali's sewage and linked to California's grid next year.
One is being built by InterGen, owned by Shell Oil and the Bechtel Corporation. Up to 560 of its 1060 megawatts will go north, 500 to Mexico. The company concedes that the plant does not meet California's pollution standards and would not be licensed across the border.
California's senators and two congressmen whose districts border Mexico have introduced legislation to stop InterGen from providing power to the state without meeting its standards. One, Representative Bob Filner, a San Diego Democrat, called placing the plants in Mexico "19th-century imperialism."
But even though, as Mr. Filner said, "the Border Patrol has not yet figured out how to stop air pollution," United States laws do not govern Mexico.
The second plant, built by Sempra Energy, based in San Diego, meets California standards. It could conceivably have been built there, but at a greater cost to its owners, who would have to pay to offset what pollution it would create. All its 600 megawatts will go to California.
A megawatt is roughly enough electricity for up to 1,000 homes. The plants together can power more than one million California houses.
Don Felsinger, president of Sempra Energy Group Enterprises, said "we thought it was good business and it made environmental sense" to build its plant to California standards. It took only six months to license the plant; in California, it would have been two years, he said.
Like California, Mexico is facing an energy crunch. The country needs at least 29,000 more megawatts over the next decade, at an expected cost of $30 billion -- money Mexico does not have.
The irony of exporting power when Mexicans need more -- and when their electricity bills are doubling -- is not lost on the populace. But support for the new plants among politicians is nearly total. Public opposition to the plants was muted by the fact that they were a done deal before the public knew anything about them.
"There is no right to know in Mexico," said Fernando Medina, a social scientist in Mexicali. "Even had we known these plants would be built, no social or political force could stop them."
Margarito Quintero, who like Mr. Medina teaches at the Autonomous University of Baja California, said: "There are no laws in Mexico to limit these plants. Their existence is a reflection of the inequalities between the two countries."
The plants will pollute the air and the water in California's Imperial Valley, a heavily Hispanic region north of Mexicali, according to local officials. But they appear exempt from the environmental laws of the United States.
"Our Department of Energy said this project is not going to have any environmental impact, and we were screaming, saying, `That's garbage, of course it will,' " said Steve Birdsall, director of the Imperial County Air Pollution Control District.
He said the InterGen plant would send more than 3,800 tons of pollutants a year into the air (Sempra's smaller plant will emit one-tenth that much). And he assailed InterGen for ignoring California standards.
"They are the epitome of corporate arrogance," he said. "They have not been honest with us."
At InterGen, John Foster, a senior vice president, said his company had been "honest and straightforward." He said InterGen might even retrofit its plant to comply completely with California standards, assuming consumers would help pay the added cost of up to $20 million.
He said the key to building more plants in Mexico to serve the United States -- "a great idea" -- was to harmonize the two nations' environmental laws.
"Then everybody would be playing by the same rules," he said.
In Mexicali, so close to the United States and yet so far, people who live next to the plants accept them with a fatalistic shrug.
Elisabeth Figueroa, 31, started work this week as an office cleaner at the InterGen plant, making $2 an hour on a month-to-month contract. "We need the light and electricity around here, but most of it is going north," she said. "And we know it will be bad for the environment, but we need the work.
"Maybe it's unjust," she said. "But we Mexicans are used to injustice."
The direct link to this piece is too long, otherwise I would have left it in here and just posted half of the text. Sorry.
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Mech

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Thu Sep 19, 2002 5:46 am
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Corporate elitists will do whatever it takes to subvert U.S. laws in order to hold onto their power.Most people will call me a "socialist" for saying that but they can kiss my veteran ass and if they don't like it...come get some.
Right now they are moving pieces around the chessboard and hiding behind the flag and false patriotism when in all actuallity these institutions have no patriotism and could care less what happens to this country...as long as they can increase profits.They are TRAITORS to both our sovereign laws and the people of the United States.
Blaming environmentalists for all of the $#!+ (pardon my french) that has been going on since the early 20th Century is a deliberate charade orchestrated by charlatans of the corporate agenda. Plain and simple. May they all soon go the way of Kenneth Lay, BCCI, and all the other earth rapists and arch criminals.
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Dry Cough
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Fri Sep 20, 2002 7:29 am
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Mech - I was not blaming environmentalists per se for the New World Order - I know and am friends with many who are sincerely interested in preserving the environment which any sane person, Christian, Catholic or not should be. That said, however, is not to discredit you, but to say that many or most of the powers that finance much of what constitutes the enviromental movement are using it and the trusting sheeple working peacefully or otherwise to protect the earth for their own ends, whether it be for the total taking away of all private property ownership or some other communist-style goal. One only has to look at Mikhail's own country of Russia and the mass pollution there, as well as many other communist or socialist government countries to see that he is not exactly the person a sincere environmentalist ought to look to to run an organization looking for "salvation" from him or people of his ilk.
I completely agree with you about wages, etc - all those horrific treaties, etc. BUT these things have been planned by the secret societies for generations - whether you want to say the Club of Rome, the bilderbergers, the Illuminati, the freemasons (who are, by their own admission - Albert Pike's MORALS AND DOGMA, devil worshippers - Baphomet, Lucifer, call him what you may - THAT is THEIR GOD - and their is a temple in every little town in the US, no matter how small, even those without any Christian Church of any denomination - indeed rather attesting to the truth of Jesus' words in Scripture about who IS the Lord of THIS WORLD) - they will have their one world religion, and their one world government - and whether it is by this treaty or using or abusing that group or pitting this one against that one they really don't care as long as the end result is that their guy - the devil - gets the honor and glory in the end. Read Madame Blavatsky and Alice Bailey - the ladies published under Lucifer publishing company which they had to change to Lucis Trust when there was too much public outrage over the name. Go do your own research. Whether you believe in it or not, whether you want to face it or not, it's all there for those who sincerely seek for the truth. |
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Mech

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Fri Sep 20, 2002 8:54 am
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Agreed, sorry if I was a little gruff. The earth belongs to all of us, and while I particularly don't like any form of stalinist/leninist communism, nor do I particularly like darwinist capitalism (all for ourselves and the hell with everyone else), there are good points abouth democratic capitalism that I believe are honest.
I see the division between environmentalists, capitalists,60's era civil rights workers and boomers, modern day "digital" kids, and others all pointing at each other, DIVIDED. I think the real enemy here in this case are those who want to wipe out what is equally and rightfully ours in only a few generations in order to satisfy immediate monetary gain.
The Bush's, the Rumsfeld's, the Kissingers of this world wish to ASSUME what is right for America and have all of us "sheeple" (as you call them) follow lock, stock, and barrel...follow the pied piper off the cliff.
Russian Stalinism is hardly different from Darwinist capitalism.. How? i'll give two examples...
1)"TOP down" management...the big "fish" make all the descisions .
2) Woking class and Artisans views are subverted for either commisar(russian) or market dictated (U.S.) decision making in
public policy, media, and lawmaking.
The seek to divide us and keep us focused on minute insignificant issues instead of finding the truth and seeing through what they REALLY are.
Mech
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Yodabreath
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Sat Sep 21, 2002 2:39 am
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Mech, your view of capitalism, Democracy and America seem strangely distorted and very wrong to me.
In fact, I would argue that it is big business that not only provides opportunities (and therefore, freedom) for people, but also maintains the environment.
I'll give you an example; The recent forest fires that burned huge amounts of acreage were not only managed (mis-managed) by the government forest service, but the fire was set by a forest service employee.
You see, environmentalist leftists allowed (or caused) the federal government to seize land from the people to whom it belongs. In doing so, environmental extremist policies were followed; no fire access roads were built and the forest floor was left uncleared allowing kindling and other debris accumulate. The intention here was, of course, to leave the forest in its most pristine state, but all it really ended up doing was creating conditions ripe for one of the most massive forest fires in history.
Then a forest service employ came along and sparked the blaze.
Had this land been managed by logging companies on the other hand, they would have kept the forest floor clear, making the probability of a fire very remote. They after all, have the incentive of preserving their product. And when they harvest the trees, they have very precise re-plantings, because they want to insure that their product will be around for the future of the company. Thus logging companies, in the name of big business, have become the best caretakers of the forest, while environmental extremists (or enviro-terrorists as I like to call them) have become the worst threat to forest survival, and individual property rights.
I could go on with many other examples such as the MTBE additive, that so-called "environmentalist" got placed in gasoline, that was supposed to clean up the air but only ended up poisoning the groundwater and driving up gasoline prices...The list is endless. Environmentalist extremists are actually a threat to the environment and American democracy.
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Mech

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Sat Sep 21, 2002 5:41 am
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I 've heard it before my friend. To say that Environmentalists are a threat to American democracy is like saying Wal-Mart has no effect on small town economies and working people.A lot of those people have gone to jail or even died(or murdered) for their beliefs. Just take a look at our leaders--That is a threat to American democracy..EX: Tom Ridge/Ashcroft ready to nuke individual liberties and the contitution . Thats's ONE example.
Mismanagement of forests CANNOT be blamed on environmentalists..as much as you would like to believe..., a silviculturist I know says that his field's policy and descisionmaking is overwhelmingly dictated by large agribuisness and timber barons like Georgia Pacific and Biotechnology firms...(the ones who want GM trees), and modern timber practices are MARKET DRIVEN (NOT RESPONSIBLE or Ecologically sound).
Further more, I guess it all depends on how YOU see "reality" my friend. Those forests burned because of changes in our CLIMATE...(draught, dry conditions)affecting the ENTIRE U.S......,not due to poor forestry practices.You call them "extremists"? What a joke...they are looking out for our health and keeping an eye on biodiversity. WHO helped to get clean air and lead out of fuel..?...Who helped to get cleaner water...?...Who helped to get asbestos out of housing? Big buisness? Our leaders? Come on!!!! Environmentalists!!!
But believe what you want man.
Mech
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Yodabreath
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Sat Sep 21, 2002 6:24 am
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quote: Tom Ridge/Ashcroft ready to nuke individual liberties and the contitution . Thats's ONE example
Just using their names as a reference does not give an example. Provide for me an example, and reasoning as to how you think Tom Ridge and Ashcroft are "ready to nuke individual liberties and the constitution". What factual basis do you have for making this implication?
quote: and modern timber practices are MARKET DRIVEN (NOT RESPONSIBLE or Ecologically sound).
Think this through logically. If something is market driven....the supplier wants to insure he has a supply to meet the demand, right? He is motivated to insure that his supply remains viable, renewable and undamaged. He becomes the motivated caretaker of that supply. To say that modern timber practices are not ecologically sound is in extreme denial of the facts. Modern timber practices are EXTREMELY ecologically sound. Just look at Oregon forest management and harvesting techniques as an example. It would be accurate to say PAST timber management wasn't ecologically sound, but entirely false and inaccurate to use the word modern.
quote: Mismanagement of forests CANNOT be blamed on environmentalists..as much as you would like to believe
This is not a belief. I just gave you a current example where radical environmentalist driven policies were the DIRECT CAUSE of mismanagement, created the conditions for fire, a situation where fire could not be efficiently dealt with, and furthermore....SET the fire. This was the actual situation...A FACT, not a belief.
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Further more, I guess it all depends on how YOU see "reality" my friend. Those forests burned because of changes in our CLIMATE...(draught, dry conditions)affecting the ENTIRE U.S......,not due to poor forestry practices
Again this statement is almost entirely false. Drought might have contributed to the dry-ness, and drought is a normal cyclical condition....but mismanagement provided the fuel, the ignition source, and took away the fire access roads needed to fight the fire. Mismanagement DIRECTLY contributed.
quote: You call them "extremists"? What a joke...they are looking out for our health and keeping an eye on biodiversity
The fact that you actually buy that load of propaganda BS is a joke.
quote: Who helped to get cleaner water...?...
Another joke. I just gave you an example of how so called "environmentalists" had MTBE placed in gasoline. Not only did they NOT help to "get cleaner water", they are directly responsible for POINSONING it.
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Mech

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Sat Sep 21, 2002 8:10 am
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Sorry man, you have a screw loose if you think environmentalists are causing air and water pollution. It dosen't take a Wall st. daytrader to figure out that money interests in this country as of late are the driving force in EVERYTHING.., rather disturbing.
It would not be the first time PROFIT has played a role before the health of an ecosystem or even somethig as simple as a beautiful grove of 600 year old oaks...
Where do YOU draw the line YODA.?
Mech
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Yodabreath
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Sat Sep 21, 2002 11:39 am
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Environmentalist Lies
Walter Williams
June 21, 2000
Most of what the radical environmentalists preach is wrong or exaggerated, and sometimes it's simply outright lies. Methyl tertiary-butyl ether (MTBE) is a gasoline oxygenate that the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency forced oil companies to add to gasoline. For seven years, EPA Administrator Carol Browner, a former Gore campaign aide, claimed that MTBE was an important contributor to reducing auto emissions.
As reported in "Environment and Climate News," a publication of the Chicago-based Heartland Institute, the National Research Council has demonstrated that oxygenates have virtually no effect on air quality. The EPA's forcing oil companies to add a useless, costly additive isn't the end of the story, either. MTBE is a potent water pollutant and is having disastrous effects on the nation's water supply.
Under heavy pressure from state and local government officials, the EPA now admits that MTBE is polluting our water supply and making people sick - something EPA's own scientists warned about in 1988. Browner, ignoring her agency's culpability says, "Threats posed by MTBE to water supplies in many areas of the country are a growing concern."
America's Chicken Littles constantly warn and offer "solutions" to one supposed danger or another caused by mankind's activities. For instance, they caution that overpopulation is leading to ruination and starvation.
First, there is no clear connection between population density and wealth. There are miserably poor countries such as the former Zaire with a population density of 39 people per square mile. Then there's Hong Kong, with hundreds of thousands of people per square mile, and there are cities like New York, with hundreds of thousands of people per square mile, that are rich.
Since 1950, the U.S. population has increased by 81 percent. For America's Chicken Littles, that has to be a prescription for disaster. But the fact of business is that, since 1950, the U.S. Agriculture Department reports that our food production has increased a whopping 189 percent.
That efficiency in food production translates into the world's lowest food prices. Moreover, we're producing more food, on less land and using fewer pesticides. With advances in bioengineering, the future foreshadows even greater efficiency in food production. Vice President Gore and others, in an attempt to dictate where we can live, whine about "urban sprawl" and loss of farmland. If farmland is a problem at all, it's that we have too much of it. Then there's the global warming hype about our use of fossil fuels.
According to reputable scientists like Patrick Michaels and Robert Balling, mankind's activities account for a minuscule 2 percent or 3 percent of atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. Geophysicists estimate that just three volcanic eruptions - Indonesia (1883), Alaska (1912) and Iceland (1947) - spewed more carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxides into the atmosphere than all of mankind's activities in his entire history. The November 1982 Science magazine reports that termites annually generate more than twice as much carbon dioxide as mankind does burning fossil fuels. One termite species annually emits 600,000 metric tons of formic acid into the atmosphere, an amount equal to the combined contributions of automobiles, refuse combustion and vegetation.
Thinking that mankind's activities can have significant effects on the environment is the height of arrogance. If you really believe mankind's activity can change the Earth's temperature, you probably also think that if all of us jumped up and down we'd change the earth's orbit, or if we all got out our paddles we could change the direction of the tides.
Political commentator H.L. Mencken explained today's hype, "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
Walter Williams is the John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics at George Mason University. He has also written books and articles for journals, sits on advisory boards and has won awards all too numerous to count.
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GAS_MASK

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Sat Sep 21, 2002 5:18 pm
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quote: Just using their names as a reference does not give an example. Provide for me an example, and reasoning as to how you think Tom Ridge and Ashcroft are "ready to nuke individual liberties and the constitution". What factual basis do you have for making this implication?
Not quite nuking, but certainly not helping: LINK, LINK, and LINK.
quote: Another joke. I just gave you an example of how so called "environmentalists" had MTBE placed in gasoline. Not only did they NOT help to "get cleaner water", they are directly responsible for POINSONING it.
Don't you mean 'oil companies' instead of 'environmentalists'?
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Mech

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Sat Sep 21, 2002 8:22 pm
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Wow! So, I guess the oil companies and industry tried to find a scapegoat and FAILED.
Score one for the "chemmies" and environmentalists.
Civil liberties? can you say..USA PATRIOT ACT?
Mech
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Yodabreath
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Sat Sep 21, 2002 11:28 pm
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Hey GM,
Dig a little deeper, and you'll find that the same EPA who required the oil companies put MTBE in fuel due to radical environmentalist concerns, turns around and sues the oil companies for putting MTBE in fuel. Government elitist hypocrisy at it's finest....hypocrisy typical of the leftist, SUV driving, redwood deck owning radical environmentalists. |
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Mech

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Sat Sep 21, 2002 11:37 pm
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See...that's what happens when Conservatives are proven wrong...they get their panties in a bunch and hurl insults.
Funny, I am an environmentalist and I drive a Honda civic, live in an apartment in a city and don't have any of those things you mentioned.n fact, the only people I see driving those giant gas guzzling SUV's are white collar conservatives or people who actually really USE them like farmers or tradesman.
Just out and out lies that's all.
Mech
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