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The Conservative party has been busy this past few months trying to convince Irish voters that world government is not good for them, they will do this while not in actual power in London to gain support from the 37 million plus EU sceptics. The Conservatives tell me that many express concerns about world government in the style of Communist centralised control run by corrupt elite. And some politicians have expressed their own same concerns out in the public.
Irish minister says EU vote lost
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Irish Justice Minister Dermot Ahern says substantial vote tallies across the country show the European Union Lisbon reform treaty has been rejected.
Tallies are not official, but Mr Ahern says it is clear the No vote is ahead in a vast majority of constituencies.
This would scupper the treaty, which must be ratified by all members. Only Ireland has held a public vote on it.
Mr Ahern is the first senior figure from the Irish government to admit that it looked like the treaty had failed.
The Irish first voted against the Nice Treaty, will they vote NO to world government constitution?
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"It looks like this will be a No vote," Mr Ahern said on live television. "At the end of the day, for a myriad of reasons, the people have spoken."
He said it looked like other EU countries would ratify the treaty, so an Irish No vote would leave the EU in "uncharted waters".
Earlier, Europe Minister Dick Roche had admitted "it is not looking good"
In Irish polls, tally counters in each constituency watch votes being sorted and make their own count, giving early indications of how a vote is going.
State broadcaster RTE said initial results and projections suggested a certain win for the No camp.
The BBC's Oana Lungescu in Brussels says EU leaders are bracing for defeat but are expected to press on with the treaty, which is meant to streamline decision-making in the now expanded EU.
However, she says, the third failed referendum in three years on the EU's reform plans is bound to undermine the bloc's public legitimacy and dent its confidence when it faces other big players on the world stage.
European leaders earlier said they had no "plan B" for how to proceed if Ireland's electorate voted No.
"If the Irish people decide to reject the treaty of Lisbon, naturally, there will be no treaty of Lisbon," French Prime Minister Francois Fillon said on Thursday night.
Declan Ganley of the anti-treaty lobby group Libertas said that if the No vote had indeed triumphed that it was "a great day for Ireland".
"The people of Ireland have shown enormous courage and wisdom in analysing the facts presented to them and making the decision they have," Mr Ganley said.
The No campaign was a broad coalition ranging from Libertas to Sinn Fein, the only party in parliament to oppose the treaty.
Confusion
Correspondents say many voters did not understand the treaty despite a high-profile campaign led by Prime Minister Brian Cowen, which had the support of most of the country's main parties.
Mr Cowen accused the No camp of "misrepresentation", saying voters had voiced concern about "issues that clearly weren't in the treaty at all", the Irish Times reported.
Turnout is said to have been about 45%. Commentators had predicted that a low turnout figure would suggest a rejection.
The treaty, which is designed to help the EU cope with its expansion into eastern Europe, provides for a streamlining of the European Commission, the removal of the national veto in more policy areas, a new president of the European Council and a strengthened foreign affairs post.
The treaty is due to come into force on 1 January 2009.
Fourteen countries out of the 27 have completed ratification so far.
The Lisbon Treaty replaces a more ambitious draft constitution that was rejected by French and Dutch voters in 2005.
Just over three million Irish voters are registered - in a European Union of 490 million people.
In 2001, Irish voters almost wrecked EU plans to expand eastwards when they rejected the Nice treaty. It was only passed in a much-criticised second vote.
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The EU are showing their true colours.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7452907.stm
For the Totalitarian Corporatist Whores they are!
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Irish first voted against the Nice Treaty for EU Expansion but were forced to hold sham rigged election in favour of the treaty for Expansion into Eastern European states. Next on the map is Middle East and Asia! Germany have said this much for years now! All is required is for Ireland and UK to surrender all sovereignty and power to Germany and then the EU can forge ahead.
Remember Tony Blair telling us that if we voted NO to the EU Costitution we would have it forced through anyway! So they tell us straight out our vote is worthless to them! And wonder why so few of us vote in general elections that are fixed.
Same Game Plan then! Same Game Play! Elite Fascism through Corportism Government, (illegal illegitimate government that is really just run by corp elite and bankers).
Places like India and Dubai already have adoped EU style laws and taxation such as VAT. Preparation for world governance. Once part of the EU all tax goes to EU offshore bank accounts! Asian Pacific Union and African Union are really just an expansion of the EU that is controlled by the elite that lobby and control the UN.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/2123152/EU-referendum-How-Ireland's-No-vote-unfolded.html
EU referendum: How Ireland's No vote unfolded
By Bonnie Malkin and agencies
Last Updated: 2:18PM BST 13/06/2008
The first official result from Ireland's referendum on the Lisbon Treaty said it all: No.
The first Irish constituency to return a result in the referendum voted 54 per cent to 46 per cent against the Treaty.
Waterford returned a result of 20,812 No votes to 17,502 Yes.
The early result strengthened fears in the Yes camp that Ireland had rejected the major European Union reform.
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The second result only deepened those fears.
The Tipperary North constituency returned a tighter result of 50.2 per cent No against 49.8 per cent Yes.
By early afternoon 8.87 percent of votes had been counted, giving the Yes camp 42.42 percent against 57.58 percent for the Nos, according to the official referendum website.
As the negative results came in one of Ireland's main trade unions, which represents 45,000 workers, welcomed the rejection of the Lisbon Treaty at the polls.
Eamon Devoy, general secretary designate of the Technical Engineering and Electrical Union (TEEU), said it was almost certain the No campaign had won.
"The national executive of our union recommended a No vote in the referendum and it now seems clear that this has happened", he said.
While the official final result is still not expected until this afternoon, No supporters are already celebrating, with government minister Brian Lenihan heckled by anti-Treaty campaigners at one count centre.
Eurosceptics have also pronounced the Lisbon Treaty dead following the poll.
"It is a great and proud day to be an Irishman and a European. It is a great day for democracy," said Irish tycoon Declan Ganley, who been a key figure in the "no" campaign ahead of Thursday's poll.
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Irish No sparks EU crisis
* Mark Mardell
* 13 Jun 08, 03:55 PM
What does Ireland's No mean for the European Union? Here is a longer version of my thoughts for Radio 4's 1800 bulletin.
This is a multiple crisis. The Lisbon Treaty itself is a watered-down version of the European constitution, which was abandoned after it was rejected in referendums in France and the Netherlands three years ago. Lisbon was only stitched together after tortuous negotiations, carefully balancing the competing wishes and concerns of 27 countries. To go back to the drawing board is unthinkable to those who would have to do the work, as well as fairly pointless.
So it's a crisis about what happens to the ambitions and the rule changes in the documents.
Some politicians, particularly in France, will want Ireland to vote again - perhaps after a concession allowing all countries to keep a commissioner.
But it is also a crisis about legitimacy. The Irish voted No to the Nice Treaty in 2001 and were asked to vote again a year later. That time they said Yes. The Danish voted No to the Maastricht Treaty in 1992 - and voted Yes a year later. The French and Dutch rejected the constitution in 2005 and the leaders designed Lisbon instead.
If Ireland is asked to vote again, voices saying that the EU doesn't understand the word "no" can only grow louder. In the end Lisbon could be declared dead. Some bits would be implemented without a treaty, others abandoned and others put into a new treaty when Croatia joins the EU in a couple of years' time. So it's also a moral crisis: we face another few years of potentially boring navel-gazing, when some European leaders say the only way to sell the EU is to deal with things like climate change, immigration and terrorism.
Friday 13th may turn out to be very unlucky indeed for those who believe in the EU project... not that it will stop them trying to press ahead regardless.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2008/06/what_does_irelands_no_mean.html
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Irish vote against EU pact
Jun 13, 2008 11:31 PM
Irish voters have rejected the European Union's Lisbon treaty in a referendum, the government acknowledged, potentially scuppering EU reform plans.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern conceded the vote shortly after noon as tallies from around the country showed the treaty had been defeated in an overwhelming number of constituencies.
"It looks like this will be a 'No' vote," Ahern told RTE television. "At the end of the day for a myriad of reasons the people have spoken."
Ireland is one of the most pro-European countries in the bloc and the only one to entrust its voters with a referendum on the treaty, which replaces an EU constitution rejected by Dutch and French voters in 2005.
RTE said tallies showed the treaty would be carried only in a handful of constituencies, mainly in the capital Dublin.
The victory for the "No" camp means a country with fewer than one percent of the EU's 490 million population could wreck a treaty painstakingly negotiated over years by leaders of all 27 member states.
Euro falls
The euro currency fell to its lowest level in over a month against the dollar after the first reports suggesting a "No" victory, which could doom the entire EU reform project. European governments say there is no "plan B".
"If the Irish people decide to reject the treaty of Lisbon, naturally, there will be no treaty of Lisbon," French Prime Minister Francois Fillon said late on Thursday.
However, other French officials have said work on the treaty could continue. France assumes the rotating EU presidency in a matter of weeks and was supposed to be in charge of setting up the new system which would take effect at the start of the year.
The treaty, intended to make the EU stronger and more effective, had the backing of the three main political parties in Ireland, which has prospered under EU membership.
Farmers groups, businesses and many labour unions also backed it.
On polling day bookmakers were still taking bets giving it overwhelming odds to pass.
But while the country ranks in surveys as one of the EU's most pro-European states, opponents say the treaty reduces small countries' clout and gives Brussels new foreign and defence policy powers that undermine Ireland's historic neutrality.
It wasn't the first time Irish voters have shocked the EU.
They almost wrecked the bloc's plans for eastward expansion in 2001 by rejecting the Nice treaty, but the government staged a second referendum in which that pact passed.
The government has said it is not considering a re-run this time around.
The Lisbon treaty envisages a long-term president of the European Council of EU leaders, a stronger foreign policy chief and a mutual defence pact.
Fourteen countries have already ratified the treaty in their national parliaments.
EU leaders meeting in Brussels next week are expected to reaffirm their commitment to it and may ask Ireland to indicate how it intends to proceed.
That would put the onus on Dublin either to seek changes, opt-outs or assurances and put them to a second referendum, or to find a way to allow the others to proceed with the key reforms without Ireland.
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http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=f41ad2bc-9955-4e2c-8ee4-7328ad4d4ae7
Irish bookie pays out early on EU 'yes' vote
Agence France Presse
Published: Friday, June 13, 2008
DUBLIN - A leading Irish bookmaker is paying out early to those who bet that the "Yes" campaign would win in a crunch EU referendum, a spokesman told AFP on Friday.
The payout decision was made shortly after polls closed on Thursday, although on Friday Paddy Power bookmakers admitted that it may have been a bit too hasty and got it wrong.
"If we get caught with our pants down so be it. We have a long tradition of early payouts. This would be the first one that we have got wrong. Up until now we have been absolutely on the button," said spokesman Ken Robertson.
Ireland went to the polls in a crunch referendum on the treaty on Thursday but the result is not expected until Friday afternoon.
It is the only European nation holding a referendum on the treaty, which has already been approved through a parliamentary vote by 18 other European nations and if it votes "no", the EU will be pitched into serious crisis.
"We saw a surge of betting away from a "no" vote and towards a "yes" vote," Robertson said, "That kind of bucked a trend a little bit. It has been quite an erratic market, it swung from a "yes" to a "no" and a "no" to a "yes".
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FREEDOM WHEN NO EU EXISTS! DECONSTRUCT EU AND THROW THE CORRUPT SCUMBAGS IN JAIL - SIBERIAN JAILS COME TO MIND...
Yes, lets see how it all unfolds...their next move. Even though they get a single No vote from one country? This means what? That there is NO ratification of the EU Constitution. Much like when most states in the US voted against income tax but congress pushed it through anyway - illegally.
NEVER GIVE IN TO THESE ELITE NAZIS///WORLD GOVERNMENT WHORES.....
EU referendum: Ireland votes against Lisbon Treaty
By Tom Peterkin in Dublin
Last Updated: 4:31PM BST 13/06/2008
Irish voters have left Brussels' plans for EU integration in tatters by rejecting the Lisbon Treaty.
Even before all the official Ireland referendum results were announced, Manuel Barroso, the President of the European Commission, conceded that the public had voted against the Treaty.
But despite the result, he still called on other member states to ratify the Treaty.
"I believe the treaty is alive and we should now try to find a solution," he said in Brussels.
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Dermot Ahern, Ireland's justice minister, said: “At the end of the day, for a myriad of reasons, the people have spoken.”
The result is bad news for Ireland's leader, Taoiseach Brian Cowen, who will have some tough explaining to do when he faces EU leaders at the European Council summit next week in Brussels.
Mr Ahern said he became somewhat despondent and surprised at the opposition to the treaty in the final days of canvassing.
The minister believes high numbers of women rejected the EU deal because of fears over army conscription in a new military alliance.
At the major ballot-counting center in Dublin, Finance Minister Brian Lenihan struggled to speak to reporters as anti-treaty activists jubilantly drowned him out with songs and chants of "No!"
"This is a huge rebuff to the political establishment. It shows there is massive distrust among ordinary working people," said Joe Higgins, the sole Socialist Party member in the Irish parliament.
The decision places massive doubt over the future of the pact designed to bring more European integration.
All 27 European member states have to ratify the treaty for it to go come into force next year. So far it has been approved by 18 members including Britain, but Ireland is the only country to put it to a public vote.
The leaders of the 26 other member states watched with dismay as Ireland voted “no”, a decision that will inevitably lead to much infighting and bickering across Europe.
The main Irish political parties, including Taoiseach Mr Cowen's leading government party Fianna Fail, have fought hard for a Yes vote, with Sinn Fein campaigning against the Treaty.
Despite benefiting from £32 billion in European Grants in recent years, a low turn-out (45 per cent) of the Irish electorate discarded the Treaty, designed to streamline the EU.
The outcome was triumph for a highly-effective No Campaign masterminded by the Libertas group led by the multimillionaire Declan Ganley.
Libertas argued that the Treaty would undermine Ireland’s influence in Europe, would open the door to interference in taxation and enshrine EU law above Irish law.
For Brian Cowen, the newly-installed Irish Prime Minister, the result was a disaster. All the main political parties, aside from Sinn Fein, had supported the Treaty and made strenuous efforts to win the referendum.
Mr Cowen now has to face the embarrassment of explaining to his fellow European leaders why he failed to persuade his nation to adopt the Treaty.
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EU staggered by Irish treaty vote
Jonathan Saul and Peter Graff, Reuters
Published: 11 minutes ago
DUBLIN - Irish voters have rejected the European Union's Lisbon treaty, putting plans to overhaul the bloc's institutions in peril and humiliating Ireland's political leaders.
Justice Minister Dermot Ahern conceded the vote shortly after midday on Friday as tallies from around the country showed the treaty had been defeated in an overwhelming number of constituencies.
"It looks like this will be a 'No' vote," Ahern told RTE television. "At the end of the day for a myriad of reasons the people have spoken."
"This is a political crisis for Europe," said Antonio Missiroli, an analyst with the Brussels-based European Policy Centre.
The Euro fell to its lowest level in over a month on news of the 'no' vote.
The Euro fell to its lowest level in over a month on news of the 'no' vote.
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"If you can't get your act together how can you be seen as a credible international actor."
But Missiroli said he doesn't think the political crisis will impact Canada-U.S. trade or impact the current attempt by Canada to strike a so-called "Trans-Atlantic Accord" to expand trade and investment. The European Union is Canada's second-largest global trading partner.
The Lisbon treaty was itself an effort to resurrect EU reforms that were torpedoed by French and Dutch voters in 2005.
This time Ireland was only country to entrust its voters with a referendum. The "No" vote means a country with fewer than 1 percent of the EU's 490 million population could doom a treaty painstakingly negotiated by all 27 member states.
The Lisbon treaty envisages a long-term president of the European Council of EU leaders, a stronger foreign policy chief and a mutual defence pact. Fourteen countries have already ratified the treaty in their national parliaments.
But while Ireland ranks in surveys as one of the EU's most pro-European states, opponents say the treaty reduces small countries' influence and gives Brussels new foreign and defence policy powers that undermine Ireland's historic neutrality.
With more than 864,000 votes counted, official returns from Thursday's vote showed "No" leading 53.85 percent to 46.15 percent.
The euro fell to its lowest level in over a month against the dollar after the first reports suggesting a "No" victory.
EU leaders meeting in Brussels next week will have awkward questions for Ireland's Prime Minister Brian Cowen.
Some expressed hope that Ireland would still find a way to sign on to the pact.
"Ireland will for sure find a way to ratify this treaty," Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk told reporters.
French officials have said work on the treaty could continue. France assumes the rotating EU presidency in a matter of weeks and was supposed to be in charge of setting up the new system which would take effect at the start of the year.
The British government, which faces a strong Euro-sceptic political opposition that has demanded its own referendum, has said plans to ratify the treaty would go on regardless.
But Mary Lou McDonald, a member of the EU parliament from Ireland's nationalist Sinn Fein party, which helped lead the victorious "No" campaign, said it would be impossible for Irish leaders to wriggle out of the referendum result.
"This is a moment of democratic truth here. Do you listen to the people or don't you?"
The treaty had the backing of the three main political parties in Ireland, which has prospered under EU membership. Farmers groups, businesses and many labour unions also backed it.
On polling day bookmakers were still taking bets giving it overwhelming odds to pass.
It wasn't the first time Irish voters have shocked the EU. They almost wrecked the bloc's plans for eastward expansion in 2001 by rejecting the Nice treaty, but the government staged a second referendum in which that pact passed. The government has said it is not considering a re-run this time around.
With files from Peter O'Neil, Canwest News Europe correspondent
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Official Results released soon....EU admit defeat.....still they say EU will work for climate change, social solutions, institutional solutions and downsizing of EU Commission = world government, world government, world government!!
EUR IMPACT GBP and USD UP against EUR today!
I added separators on the charts so each one vertical line represents one trade day time frame.
http://news.uk.msn.com/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=8581584
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EU referendum: Gordon Brown under pressure to ditch Lisbon Treaty after Ireland's 'no' vote
By Tom Peterkin
Last Updated: 5:57PM BST 13/06/2008 | Comments 1 | Have Your Say
Gordon Brown is under intense pressure to declare that the Lisbon Treaty is dead after it was rejected by Irish voters, throwing plans for European integration into chaos.
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The Treaty was rejected by 53.4 per cent of Irish voters in a decision which has far-reaching implications for Europe and threatens to kill the pact.
A vigorous "No" campaign overcame the Irish political establishment to undermine the Treaty, which replaced the highly controversial European Constitution and was supposed to streamline an enlarged EU.
For the treaty to come into force in January 2009, it had to be ratified by all 27 member states, a law that placed its fate in the hands of Ireland, as the only country to hold a referendum on the issue.
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The result was greeted with delight by Eurosceptics, who have argued that a referendum ought to be held in Britain.
In its 2005 General Election manifesto, Labour promised to go to the people on the European Constitution. The Government reneged on that commitment after the Constitution was thrown out by the French and the Dutch and was superseded by the Lisbon Treaty.
David Heathcoat-Amory, the Conservative MP, said: "The Lisbon Treaty is dead."
On BBC Radio 4's World At One, Mr Heathcoat-Amory added: "Of course, (ratification) must be halted. The Bill before the British Parliament must be withdrawn because under the European Union's own laws this cannot proceed now. The Lisbon Treaty is dead.
"When the French and Dutch voted "no" in 2005 the British Government did halt that particular Bill.
"If they don't do the same this time it'll be quite clearly because they want to put pressure on Ireland and the people of Ireland to change their mind."
But reacting to the result, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso still called on other members states to ratify the treaty.
"I believe the treaty is alive and we should now try to find a solution," he insisted in Brussels.
"The Irish government and the governments of the other member states will now need to assess what this result means for the process. The treaty was signed by all 27 member states, so there is a joint responsibility to address the situation."
The result was a humiliation for Brian Cowen, the newly appointed Irish Prime Minister, who has to travel to Brussels next week for the European Council leaders' summit.
There he will have to explain why a country with an electorate of only 2.8 million has managed to thwart a document affecting the lives of the EU's 495 million citizens.
Mr Cowen's Fianna Fail party joined forces with Ireland's main parties, apart from Sinn Fein, to fight for the "yes" vote that would have ratified an agreement that the Irish Government helped to negotiate.
With Ireland's Celtic Tiger economy having benefited from £32 billion in EU grants, some Europhiles might suggest the result was produced by an ungrateful nation.
But a No Campaign masterminded by the Libertas Group led by Declan Ganley highlighted fears that the Treaty would undermine Ireland's influence in Europe, would open the door to interference in taxation and enshrine EU law above Irish law.
Mr Ganley said: "The No result is the final answer on this particular Treaty.
"That's democracy. That's how it works. This was such a bad deal for Ireland and all of Europe and people knew that."
Campaigners also claimed that Ireland's treasured neutrality and its stance on abortion would also be affected by the Treaty, assertions that were disputed by the Yes Camp.
An indication of the intensity of the emotions came when Brian Lenihan arrived at the main Dublin count. There he struggled to make himself heard as he encountered campaigners chanting "no".
Attempting to address reporters, he eventually gave up and walked out, as one activist waved a sign reading "No to foreign rule" over his head.
Have your say: Should Gordon Brown kill off the EU Treaty?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/telegraphtv/?ID=News
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EU= more tax + more EU control = no democracy + no freedom or rights
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Suas Eireann!
Well done the Irish
Not that it'll make a blind bit of difference
Depends on what we believe! If we think we have power we will! Now the EU are breaking even their own corporate laws! Lets see if anyone sues them or Gordon Brown that has no Mandate to change or make laws anyway.
Shows how stupid their game is - they dont care how stupid they look flogging a dead dog (or should that be horse since the EU use that in their religious mythology of symbolism). And Irish are one of the most pro EU there is!  Still not enough to want an EU dictatorship.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7453560.stm
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Richard Burgeson
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| great coverage
Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:53 am
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Had me listening. I glad someone over there stopped the madness the news at rense from Britain was sounding very grim.
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